Random Rose.
ADORABLE!!
1. Kristen has been popping up all over the place
promoting SWATH.
LOVE IT!
She looked absolutely adorable on Leno and Kimmel.
I hope she does Fallon or Conan too...
Or both.
Kristen is awkwardly sweet in interviews.
I know some people think she should be getting 'better'
at it by now...
And I think she is
But
Don't you just get the part where maybe she's just
not that comfortable talking about herself?
She squirms a bit...
Plays with her hair.
Perhaps has a hard time putting her thoughts
into the right words.
But can't you see how genuine she is?
How much this all means to her?
How important her work is...
and how much she wants to be good at it.
Kristen is getting better at handling interviews
but part of her charm is that she's kinda not.
She's kinda real.
She kinda behaves how we all would probably behave
on a TV show in front of millions of people
being asked personal questions.
She's kinda still shy.
I kinda love her.
2. The Met Ball.
Yeah.
I know its supposed to be all edgy and stuff.
But.
I will be honest.
My first impression of this dress was not positive.
Sorry.
But I'm far from a fashion diva
and know little about this sort of thing.
But while I'm still on the honesty kick...
The more I looked at the other dresses that were there
(and oh my)
The more I realize that Kristen pretty much rocked it.
Sure there were 'prettier' dresses there
if you like the generic fairy tale look.
And God knows there were far uglier dresses there.
If you were looking for attention.
But Kristen doesn't need to look for attention.
It finds her wherever she goes.
It's not a dress many could pull off...
and look stunning while doing it.
3. Some People can't seem to find common sense.
Maybe they have never seen it and just don't know
what to look for...
I'm not sure.
But this is a short mention about the self proclaimed
Nonsten Hunters.
I get it.
I do.
I've been calling them out on their vile hatred for a while now...
(and without hiding behind anonymity)
But sometimes you need to sit back and think about
who you are really hurting.
Sometimes you have to realize that repeating
some of the more horrific comments made
just keeps hurting who they intended to hurt.
And that's defeating the purpose... isn't it?
Yeah.
I know.
You are exposing the delusional
You are poking fun at the idiocy.
And it's entertaining...
But not at the expense of others.
Just a thought.
BWAHAHAHAHA |
Rob is so oblivious to the drama behind him. |
4. Nikki McDonald
(E I E I O)
Nikki has a habit of making herself talked about...
It's usually when she feels the need to
add 'Rob and Kristen'
to whoever she is talking to.
In this case...
“This is just the honest truth — I see my costars all the time,”
Nikki told Celebuzz’s Taryn Ryder.
"Kristen and Rob live ten minutes away, so that has been great.
They’re great!
And Peter [Facinelli] lives five minutes away,
Jackson [Rathbone] lives three minutes away.
We’re all super close to each other
so it has felt like we’re still working together.”
Some people went a bit nutso over this quote.
Why?
Well... OK...
on some levels its a bit creepy to think of
Nikki being 'neighbors' to Rob and Kristen...
But 10 minutes away?
That's not neighbors.
But needless to say
(and you know I will say it anyway)
There are a couple of points to be made here.
1. Nikki will never hesitate to namedrop
Rob and Kristen so she gets noticed.
2. The whole "THEY'RE GREAT!"
Rings incredibly fake.
(And is completely ripping off Tony the Tiger)
3. Nikki said...
ROB AND KRISTEN LIVE 10 minutes away.
Pretty much saying they LIVE TOGETHER.
Heh.
4. Those gifs of Nikki trying to get to Rob
always crack me up.
And yeah... I know...
I'm giving Nikki shit.
But I don't rag on her appearance
or what she wears
and her sexuality and her family
on a daily basis.
And I most definitely do NOT
go after her on Twitter.
Which I think is completely lame
and uncalled for.
Although...
Her tweets are rather amusing at times...
5. Robert Fucking Pattinson.
He continues to charm and amaze me.
READ THIS INTERVIEW.
(Go to Robstenation)
Rob has become quite the man.
And please...
SEE how smart he is.
SEE how smart he is.
How he knows what he wants.
How he wouldn't ever let anyone push him around
and dictate to him who he should be seen with.
READ HIS WORDS
And know that he is creative and talented
and so intelligent...
He is more than just a face.
And he has such an amazing career in front of him.
I want to be all corny and say
"The best is yet to come"
So...
I will.
Thank you Rob for still being intoxicating.
6. Thomas Fucking Sturridge.
I adore you.
But...
The hair.
Where the hell is that beanie?
I love the beanie.
I need the beanie.
I want the beanie.
And doesn't Sienna look all glowing and sweet?
I think I have a cavity just looking at this picture
(and yeah... I decided not to go with the
one of them 'snogging' in public)
I have opinions about this.
But let's just suffice to say...
If Thomas is happy...
So am I.
But I'm still looking forward to seeing him in Cannes
Even if.
Please give me a picture of
Rob/Kris/Tom together.
It's been SO damn long!!
Quick 7.
Christina Ricci was on The View...
Pretty much verified that Kristen
(Rob's significant other)
was on set for Bel Ami.
But here's my thought.
Didn't we already know this?
We have pics of them leaving together.
We know they spend birthdays together.
We know they are living together.
We know that they are spending their lives together.
We know that...
they always end up together.
So.
While its nice that Christina confirms what we already knew...
Not really anything to lose your mind over.
OH.
I get lame emails all the time...
Here's a snippet of one from today
are you ready to cry this weekend rose?
because rob is staying in LA
to party with his real gf sarah roemer for his birthday.;)
Yeah.
This person says I'm going to 'cry' every other day.
And guess what?
I NEVER cry and she keeps writing the same tired bullshit.
Always so desperate.
Always so wrong.
Always so wrong.
People are anxious about whether or not
Robert will follow Kristen to London.
Well...
What does the Magic 8 ball say?
I think Rob will be there if he can.
I see him going to London.
Do I see him doing a premiere with Kristen?
Well...
Que Sera Sera
Whatever will be will be...
It's not the defining moment of their relationship.
And truly...
Isn't it fun to be surprised?
This post is brought to you by surprises.
I think there are plenty of them in store for us.
Good surprises.
Happy surprises.
Be ready for them!
Until next time.
Bye for now
52 comments:
Your email has to give you hours of laughs...and the idiocy of them hahaha. I'm pretty sure you wont be the one crying lol. I gotta say I'm kinda over Christina Ricci, how many times did she say Rob was a great kisser. Maybe her and Nikki could get together and trade stories hahaha. Great post Rose, lots of exciting things coming up!
Can't believe I'll be the first to comment.
HELLO ROSE!!!
I don't get to comment much but KNOW that not a day goes by that I don't look at your blog. It's still the best.
Have you seen Bel Ami? I rented through Amazon last weekend and was absolutely amazed. I think it was Rob's best performance so far.
I can't wait for all the Cannes stuff and "maybe" we'll see RK together in London, one can hope, right?
Thanks for doing what you do. You are GREATLY appreciated.
Liz in NC
Happy Hump Day! Hope everyone's week is going well.
Wise thoughts as usual Rose. I really hope that Rob and Kristen (and Tom too!) have a great time in Cannes.
The heart and soul you have put into your careers is paying off. Enjoy it!!
It's going to be a whirlwind month. I for one am looking forward to the ride!!
Have a fantastic day....
Lol! Nikki ripping off Tony the Tiger!
Its been awesome seeing Kristen making the promo rounds for swath! Just thinking about her schedule and all that travel makes me crazy, she is a trooper!
The new Rob interview and photoshoot is really great too! So much goodness flying around everywhere, I love it!
Hi to all the regs, have a happy hump day!
And safe travels to Kristen! (and Rob if he ninjas his way over to London!)
Hey Roseland!
I think the new interview is Rob's best to date. And that photoshoot! SO amazing and creative!
Kristen has never looked more beautiful or relaxed. It's nice to hear her speak about projects that she is proud of. She's just so real & unrehearsed. It's refreshing.
I know I always say this but, how can anyone not be happy for them??? I hope they can feel all the positive vibes from their Roseland cheerleaders and so many others who wish them well.
Kenzz, I hope you're doing better after your Dr visit.
Have a great humpday! xo
Thanks for posting, Rose :)
Rob's interview and photoshoot were amazing and Kristen looked so beautiful on Leno, Kimmel, Met Gala, MTV First and Le Grand Journal :)
I agree with you, Rose - the best is yet to come.. SO happy for Rob and Kristen <3
Kenzz - how are you?
Have a great day/evening everybody :)
Hello Everyone!
It's wonderful to see Kristen so clearly happy and excited about her career and I love the dynamic between her and Charlize.
Rob's latest interview is one of the best I've read and it's great to see so many good things happening for him too.
Hello Everyone! Really good post today Rose! So happy for all the good things that are happening for Robert and Kristen!
Rob's interview was so telling! What an intelligent man he is!
Looking for great things in May!
May has been pretty amazing so far....can't wait to see what happens next!!
Take care, everyone!! :D
<3
Rose - Rob is intoxicating, Kristen is fascinating, and Tom is beguiling. But you dear lady have cornered the market on illuminating. As always you are the master of true words, plainly spoken.
On another note, I think we should start a fund to pay for the author of today's article to come to the US and give a class to American magazine journalists entitled "How to Interview a Serious Actor." And if there's enough left over, we throw in a mini-seminar with the photographer entitled "No Alligators Allowed."
Hi everyone who has already posted.
Great post again Rose. We have so much to look forward to over the next wee while. Bring it on!!!
Have a great day everyone xx
Hello everyone! I've missed you regs...RL continues to kick my butt, but being busy in the business world is a good thing, right? RIGHT! For those who don't know, my SIL and I are running a business now. Legit. I never ever thought I'd be doing this, having worked in non-profits forever, but I am!!! So, I'm not around much, but you all are a great group of wonderful people. So just saying "hi".
Rose, love the post. You have such a way of saying what we all think in a succinct and perfect way. Glad you're still here, doing what you do!
sj (my peonies are blooming! I took some to pr pro this weekend!!! Love them...)
Hey PR Pro ~ funny how we're both here, posting at the same time!!! Good Rob news and a good Rose post bring us all back!
sj
Excellent post, Rose!!
I think it is impossible to Kristen look bad, she ALWAYS looks amazingly beautiful in anything that she wears. And the Met Gala dress fit her perfectly.
I was overwhelmed by Rob's Premiere interview. Love is honest and insightful answers!! It sounds that he has gained much more confidence and that he believes more on himself and that is truly wonderful!
And, yes Rob is much more that is beautifil face, and I wish some people would see past that, because he is also crazy intelligent, thoughful, insightful and talented.
About the photosshot, I think that the idea of making it with a reference to Cronenberg films was genius and really wonderful and cool way of honoring Cronenberg!!
And WOW, 5 movies in the works, thats fantastic.
Always wishing the best of everything for Rob, Kristen and Tom.
Take care everyone.
Beautiful face...not Beautifil
Hi everyone,
It’s been a busy few days, what with Kristen’s appearances on late night, MTV First (which MTV seems to feel that Canadian shouldn’t have a right to see – no, I’m not bitter), the Met Gala and Rob’s recent photo shoot and article.
I suppose, as a Canadian, it’s blasphemy to admit that I’m not an expert on all of David Cronenberg’s movies, so I confess the fact that the new photo shoot is an homage to his other movies wasn’t immediately apparent to me. That said, I can really appreciate it for its art and of course, for its primary subject, namely Rob. I also appreciate that the shoot portrays Rob in an entirely new light and helps to dispel the notion that he is solely his good looks and a teen heart throb. I agree Rose, people need to read his words and grasp his intelligence.
I hope Kristen’s travels over the next few weeks are safe and that she enjoys the UK premier next week. It would be great if there was a new picture of Rob, Kristen and Tom at Cannes. I guess we’ll have to wait and see.
Kenzz – I hope you are feeling better (and that it’s not shingles). Let us know how you’re doing.
Take care everyone. Talk to you soon.
Hi All...
WOW....the Premiere interview is a MUST read!!
Very insightful and it sounds like Rob is more confident about his talent and future than ever.
How exciting....5 projects in the works!! Rob's birthday year will be monumental!
I am so proud of Rob! He deserves EVERY bit of success and recognition that comes his way.
Great to hear from you Rose. It is wonderful to see Kristen getting so much attention for her work. She seems so happy and looks like she is having so much fun. I adore her so much. Looking forward to seeing Rob at Cannes, hopefully with Kristen and Tom. I agree Tom looks so happy---I am glad for him.
Take care Roselanders, hope you have a good week.
Rose, I agree with prpro, you are truly illuminating. I couldn't agree more about retweeting hurtful, hateful comments...don't do it, you're simply supporting the widespread perpetuation of vileness.
For the friends who asked, I do indeed have a very painful thing called shingles. Taking my meds, and trying to keep occupied and not focused on the pain. Hope it ends sooner (within a week or two), vs longer (months... WTF, really?!!). Wish me luck ( I told the fam I'd better get a REALLY nice Mother's Day gift- haha)!
So impressed with Rob's photoshoot (brilliantly creative) and interview (incredible intelligence shines through). Kristen and Charlize... Just an interesting pairing at all the press junkets... K's commitment to tell a story in each movie she's involved in is so OBVIOUS! <3
So done with Mrs. McDonald... No relevance
Roseland, have a wonderful night...and Syd, you're my hero
Hey Rosie & Friends!
Great, great post ( as usual...). Adorbs? YES! Classy but edgy? YES! Ikki? Just stop, poor girl- it's really pathetic. Rob in Premiere? Brilliant! And Tom? Just too cute for words.
I freaking LOVE surprises!!!
'Night!
ROSE...It's bad enough that NIKKI has to have Robs body guard AND agent to stand as human shields to keep her AWAY from Rob...but stealing lines from Tony the Tiger...that's crossing the line, I tell ya....
KENZZ....( HUGS) And please feel better soon dear cyber friend!
SYD... A HUG for you as well for being such a wonderful patrol officer...you take your job seriously and I know they appreciate it! What a wonderful friend you are!
Waves to all the ROSELAND REGS and the not so REGS...Have a great evening!
Kenzz, I'm sorry you have shingles. Prayers for a rapid recovery.
PR, I will contribute to that fund! :)
MET Gala: I wasn't fond of the dress either. she looked wonderful but the dress was trying too hard. it was all over the place and rather unflattering, especially the skirt
I loved her on Kimmel and Leno and with SWATH cast in MTV First. I love Josh and they seem like such a lovely bunch joking around and stuff. and she looked beautiful in Le Grand Journal -haven't seen teh video yet but eh picutres are pretty. can't wait to see her rocking the red carpets. and the Graham Norton show. he is really awesome and funny. Chris Rock should be there as well and I'm really curious how that one works out :P
I love the Rob Premiere stuff. all of it. the concept of the fotoshoot is great if slightly creepy but just like with the Jalouse shoot, it goes well with the movie so, ... and the article was great as well. he is growing up as a persona nd as an actor and it is beautiful to see
as for Nikki, all I have to say is MEH
and i wonder whether Christina Ricci is fed up with always being ask about Rob's kissing skills. she was my favorite part of the movie. I mean, Rob was really amazing but hers was the best character
I really hope we get at least one pic of Tom/Rob/Kris from Cannes
as for Rob being in London, I think unless he has work to do he will be there. not on carpet and most probably stealthy as can be but he will be there :)
que tanto tenemos que esperar por favor para que sea el momento tu sabes algo pero todavia no o quieres decir verdad saudos rosie
Loved all the random thoughts,Rose.
Kristen is sweet, humble and genuine. I feel like you get a little glimpse of who she is vs. the canned interviews of so many other actors.
Loved Robert's interview. Another good read:Robert Pattinson Talks Cosmopolis, Cronenberg and Confidence: Enter The Brave – Part 1 & 2 at The Inquisitr. He is impressive and love that he has the confidence to do what he wants. These two never disappoint.
Tom and Sienna are awfully cute and she is one of those lucky women who carries pregnancy beautifully.
Kenzz,
So sorry about the shingles. I hope they resolve quickly.
DK,
Are you buried in a closet some where?
Have a lovely day Roseland!
Kenzz: i hope you recover from the shingles soon.
Litmom: I did have a great time watching all the happenings at the MET Gala Monday night.
So happy to read and see all of the fabulous things happening for Rob and Kristen.
Also, I love the song "Breath of life" by Florence and The Machine for SWATH!........listening to it as I type this! :)
Good morning to everyone else and have a great day!
Kenzz - I hope that you recover very very quickly :)
Hope the rest of you are all doing great :)
Oh, and Annie - I LOVE "Breath of Life" ..it's so fitting for this movie :)
Dear Kenzz- Hoping that you will be over and done with those shingles as quickly as possible.
Kristen was beautiful at the Met Gala. Hope she was able to have some fun and a good visit with Dakota and many other friends who were also in attendance.
She was gorgeous and fun to watch on Leno, Kimmel and LGJ. Can't wait to see her on GN.
Rob's Premiere Fr. interview and photo shoot was phenomenal. Loved it. So edgy, creative and perfect with the tie in to Cronenberg.
As Rose always tells us:
The best is yet to come.
The years ahead for Rob and Kristen promise to be filled with monumentally creative and artistic projects. So exciting!
Leni and Annie - Florence and The Machine will rock the theatre with the song "Breath of Life". So thrilled that she is part of the SWatH sound track. She has a truly amazing voice and stage presence.
DK, hope your move has gone very smoothly. Enjoy your beautiful new, spacious home.
Hugs for y'all.
Hugs and best wishes for Rob, Kristen and Tom as they have their great Cannes adventure. So excited and happy for them!
Hugs for Smitty, Gruff and Syd.
Life is good.
Hey Rose & the Gang,
Okay, weirdness - I posted yesterday, and it's gone. Does that happen? I swear it wasn;t obscene or anything - just brief comments on the Met outfit, the interviews, Ikki, and surprises.
Can a post just go - POOF- gone?
Sorry LitMom... It wasnt anything you said...
Sometimes for reasons unknown some comments
Just go to the Spam file.
I don't usually notice it unless someone mentions it.
I put the comment back :)
Wow, Rose! Talk about service! Thanks!!!
Glad it wasn't me :-)
Good day, everyone. I'm alive!
@Birdie
So funny! You wrote,"buried in a closet" which wouldn't have been far from the truth. Yet, it is done and I am moved. Back to my silly self soon.
@Kenzz
So sorry for your pain. Please check out this site for aids/pain relief with the shingles. Praying that one idea there benefits you quickly. Love ya.
http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/shingles.html
Back later.
DK: Thanks my friend for the website... My Google search has not exactly filled me with joy about the effects of shingles on the long-term nervous system. Seriously, am I getting old? (Horror of horrors, lol)
Thanks for all the get well wishes from you sweeties: Leni, Super, Dottie, Annie, Olivia, Freddie, Birdie, and my friends on twitter, including sjjw...
Spent the evening supervising the "green room" at daws HS musical... No notice of pain, based on my preoccupation of teen "drama" issues!!
Do we think R will actually attend the swath premiere? I'm just not seeing it... I hope they can catch a few private moments together... And Cosmopolis, so exciting
!!!
Rose, Syd, Smitty&Gruff-------->olive you!
Need to see Tom & Kris in OTR... that's all
Haha... Supposed to say I love you... Now I understand the olive reference!
@Kenzz
You'll beat the odds, baby! Eat natural, laugh, twirl and share the love like you do. Olive to you, in every sense.
KENZZ...lol..teen drama and shingles all in one week!
DK...Glad to hear you are settled in!
Hi ROSE and REGS...I am tired for R&K just reading their May schedule Rose...geez...I hope in all the hustle and bustle they enjoy themselves...
Have a great evening everyone:)
Hi DK....Glad to see you on tonight. I am just getting ready to go to sleep and thought I would do a quick drive by...God forbid I miss something..or someone...like YOU!
Oops...looks like I did miss you and KENZZ also....Yawn...Good night!
Lookie, lookie, I am still having a good time not unpacking but unwinding. Wish I was as young again, as most of you, but that is silly for I am not, anyone but me.
Let's have some music!
Society
Eddie Vedder:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgQR0x5ljek
It's a mystery to me
We have a greed
With which we have agreed
And you think you have
To want more than you need
Until you have it all
You won't be free
Society, you're a crazy breed
I hope you're not lonely without me
When you want more than you have
You think you need
And when you think
More than you want
Your thoughts begin to bleed
I think I need
To find a bigger place
Cause when you have more
Than you think
You need more space
There's those thinking more or less
Less is more
But if less is more
How you keepin score
Means for every point you make
Your level drops
Kinda like you're startin'
From the top
And you can't do that
Society, you're a crazy breed
I hope you're not lonely without me
Society, have mercy on me
I hope you're not angry
If I disagree
Society
You're crazy indeed
I hope
You're not lonely without me
Thank you/dodinhu
Rob & Kris Ears That Appear Or Not
Secrets
One Republic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR-MIPReaok
I need another story
Something to get off my chest
My life gets kind of boring
Need something that I can confess
Till all my sleeves are stained red
From all the truth that I've said
Come by it honestly I swear
Thought you saw me
Wink
No
I've been on the brink
So
Tell me what you want to hear
Something that'll like those ears
Sick of all the act sincere
So
I'm gonna give all my secrets away
This time
Don't need another perfect line
Don't care if critics
Never jump in line
I'm gonna give
All my secrets away
My God
Amazing how we got this far
It's like were chasing
All those stars
Who are driving
Shining
Big black cars
And everyday I see the news
All the problems we could solve
And when a situation rises
We'll ride it into a moutain
Straight through
I don't really like my flow
Got no reason
Got no shame
Got no family
I can blame
Just don't let me disappear
I'm telling you everything
Tell me what you want to hear
Something
That'll like those ears
Sick of all
The act sincere
So I'm gonna
Give all
My secrets away
Thank you/AnnXRawr
Don't Worry
Lessons To Be Learned
Barbra Streisand:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_rjmcb_Ay4
They say
There's a universal plan
For every woman
For every man
I do believe
There's a higher power
But in our darkest hour
It's hard to understand
So we start to question
Start to doubt
We lose faith
In what life's all about
Why did the right road
Take
The wrong turn
Why did our heart break
Why'd we get burned
Just like the seasons
There are reasons
For the path we take
There are no mistakes
Just lessons to be learned
Don't give up
Keep on looking deep inside
Let your heartbeat
Be your guide
Cause there's a gift
For those who keep believing
You'll find
What you've been needing
Is right before your eyes
You'll hold the answer
In your hands
And then you'll know
You'll finally understand
Why
No matter how many times
You stumble or fall
The greatest lesson
Is loving yourself
Through it all
There are no mistakes
Just lessons
Lessons to be
Learned
Thank you/CousinSusie
Mr. Sandman is bringing me a dream. Last night, Taylor L. was in love with my daughter, smart of him.
Tonight, who knows what dreams may come, but may they be dreams of loving.
Catch you later, lovelies.
Kisses on the cheeks of Rose, Smitty, Gruff, Syd and Lady, not to mention all of you & lurkers of positive thinking.
***=^.^=***
Poof!
If I Didn't Care
Amy Adams/Lee Pace:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70rKDAqpb1U
If I
Didn't care
More than words
Can say
If I didn't care
Would I
Feel this way?
If this isn't love
Then why do I thrill?
And what makes
My head go 'round and 'round
While my heart
Stands still?
If
I didn't care
Would it
Be the same?
Would my every prayer
Begin and end
With just
Your name?
And would
I be sure
That this is love
Beyond compare?
Would all this
Be true
If I didn't
Care
For you?
Thank you/nickelworks
Poof didn't work, so if you care, wish me z's galore.
Happy day!
KENZZ Hope your shingles clear up quickly, I always remember when my Grandfather had them on his side and one arm, he cut bits out of his shirts because it was too painful to have the feel of anything on them!! I hope you aren't as bad as this :0)
Have a great day Roselanders <3
Hello Roseland,
Kenzz
I think Rob will attend the SWATH premiere, just don't see him walking the red carpert.
Hope all is well with everyone. Take care.
DK - happy that you have settled in :)
Kristen looked amazing on GN - I LOVE that skirt! Can't wait to see the show :)
I don't know if Rob will go to her premiere, I could imagine that he does it like Kristen did for the WFE premiere - no red carpet, but watching the movie.
But whatever he will do, I'm just happy to know that they are happy and together :)
Good Morning!
DK - so excited you've settled in! And, as always, thanks for the tunes!
Kenzz - wow, so sorry about your shingles. That sucks. Take care of yourself.
Fun times out on the town in London, eh? Looking forward to many more surprises!
So quiet Roseland. Nice.
Off to bedfordshire, for slacking I am.
Enjoy your day!
Hi Roseland
Does anybody in the know( it certainly isnt moi). WHY Cosmopolis doesn't have a US release date?? I just checked:(. It has dates for Russia for Gods sake! What is this world coming to???
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