What am I supposed to say?
There is so much anger out there right now.
So much hatred.
Yes.
I'm disappointed too.
Obviously I care about Rob and Kristen.
I would never in a million years imagine something like this
happening between two people that were so in love.
And whether you believe it or not...
They still love each other.
Whether they go forward together or not
isn't up to you... or me.
Rob and Kristen need to figure this out.
I only wish they could do so with some measure of privacy.
All the conspiracy theories and rationalizations
aren't going to change what happened.
All the continuous hatred and bitterness
doesn't serve any purpose other than to
prolong the unhappiness and sadness.
We all are hurting in some way...
And I understand the feeling of protection over Rob.
The thought of him in so much pain... kills me.
But the truth of the matter is
What Kristen did has nothing to do with us.
Yes.
We can question why
We can be sad
We can be disappointed and angry.
But where do you stop and let it go?
When do you realize that hating her isn't going to change anything?
Because in truth...
All this turbulent emotion is more about us
intruding on their relationship.
Pushing ourselves in... where we never belonged in the first place.
This isn't ours to deal with.
This isn't really even our pain to feel.
I know we all do... I do, too...
But we need to back off now...
We need to let them heal and figure this out
We finally need to leave them alone...
and quit asking for things we have no right to ask for.
We don't have a right to know the intimate details.
We never did.
Final thought.
My father... who is one of the most intelligent and witty men I know...
but completely clueless when it come to
'entertainment' news...
Actually said to me yesterday
"So I was reading the paper and saw that there
is big trouble in vampire land"
Yes.
He said VAMPIRE LAND.
I just looked at him... shocked.
I finally replied...
"Yeah, Dad... Vampire land is kinda sad right now"
He looked at me and said
"I feel sorry for those 2 kids. I can't imagine having to
deal with that heartbreak in the public eye."
Compassion.
My father has it.
And he knows nothing about Rob and Kristen
beyond what he has read in the paper.
I know some of you are so angry at Kristen
and want to call her names and hate on her.
But try to look at her...
as she is.
Strip away the fame and fortune...
Take away who her boyfriend is.
Look at her.
She is just a girl.
Who made a terrible mistake.
A horrible choice.
Yes... she hurt some people
And she has to live with that.
She has to make amends.
But she is hurting too.
If you saw her on the street...
Desperate and crying... hurt
Wouldn't you stop and try to help her?
Wouldn't you be scared and worried for her?
Or would you just scoff and say she deserves her pain?
Would you spit on her as you walked away?
Personally?
I would help her.
I want her to be OK.
I want her to be OK.
I couldn't just turn my back and walk away.
And that's where I am right now.
This post is brought to you by compassion.
I hope some of you find some.
If you are without sin... cast that stone.
.........
(waiting)
..........
Thought so.
Until next time
(and there will be a next time.)
Bye for now
P.S.
I still adore Tom Sturridge.
A bright shiny star
in this dark dark night...
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Hello too. And yes, she is the bestest.
Thank for your kind words. It means a lot to me too :-)
Thank you Rose for your sane comments. It is amazing the amount of hatred and spite that is out there. This is just what we need. A voice of reason. Still a fan of Robsten, Rob or Kristen.
@DK, love the video links to the lyrics! And I second 30, your response to the one who was lecturing us all was sooo much nicer than I was imaging! :)
Some wonder why no video evidence? I understood this was one lucky pap who hit the lottery. She/He may not have had it ready, or opted to take pics instead of vid. Maybe not. I hope there are no more pics, we get it already.
Having compassion for both K and R is what I read we're all saying here. Its too bad if some can't see that.
Good night, Roseland!
FGM Or Not I Still Make Goofs
Another love story...
I was 48, single, alone at a bar but waiting for the bff to appear.
She was going through a bad divorce, crimes and betrayal without warning were involved, destroying 23 years of marriage.
An older couple stopped beside me. They were incrediibly handsome for their ages, almost beautiful. She left for several minutes but the man who remained, began a conversation with me.
It was friendly, his voice warm and resonant, kindly inquiring about me and why I was there.
Surprisingly, I told him all of it. He nodded and then while looking directly into my eyes, told me that nothing would be more important than the love of two friends comforting each other.
He said only love mattered and not to worry.
His lady returned and smiled so sweetly at us, that I was enchanted. The power of their presence was so strong and I felt love pulsing at me through them, intensely. I was transfixed.
They left, leaving their untouched drinks. My friend showed up soon after, coming in the same entrance. I asked her if she saw the very attractive couple leaving as she came in, and she did not. How could that be?
My whole being seemed to radiate love for everyone, everything. Surreal.
My bff listened to the story of my encounter with the couple with evident doubts. Sounded crazy when I told it.
If those two were not angels, spreading love and serenity, then I am not the Fairy Godmother I believe I am today. :D
For, I was utterly changed that night, by a love so powerful, it has not dimmed these 14 years.
They were love and recognized that in me.
I kid you not, angels, here on earth to comfort and advise!
The power of love is a curious thing.
Rose,I'm still crying.
I am so glad that i could read your thought and knowing your Dad who is just so wise. I've been so sad and hurt, and I just couldn't find a way to deal with my feeling and emotions. But you know, you just cleared all out. Thank you so much.
You saved me and for sure your compassion for them will save their love also.
Thanks again Rose...
Angels We Have Heard When High
The Power Of Love
Huey Lewis & The News (1989):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq6uxtkAGZ8
The power of love
Is a curious thing
Makes one man weep
Makes another man sing
Change a hawk
To a little white dove
More than a feeling
That's the power of love
Tougher than diamonds
Rich like cream
Stronger and harder
Than a bad girl's dream
Makes a bad one good
Makes a wrong one right
Power of love
That keeps you home at night
You don't need money
It don't take fame
Don't need no credit card
To ride this train
It's strong and it's sudden
And it's cruel sometimes
But it might just save your life
That's the power of love
First time you feel it
It might make you sad
Next time you feel it it
Might make you mad
But you'll be glad baby
When you've found
That the power
Makes the world go'round
They say that all in love is fair
But you don't care
But you know what to do
When it gets hold of you
And with a little help from above
You feel the power of love
Can you feel it
Hmmm
Thank you/GRSOSV2
Had enough? Never.
Best wishes for angel visits to Rose, Smitty, Gruff, Syd, and All Who Fly By.
Nightingales are singing us to sleep or waking us up, wherever we are in the scheme of things...
I'm so blessed to find this blog. You said everything that needs and properly said. Thank you. Thank you so much. My prayers and thoughts go out to the 4 of them. Hope they can sort everything out peacefully and push to the future together stronger than ever.
I'm so blessed to find this blog. You said everything that needs and properly said. Thank you. Thank you so much. My prayers and thoughts go out to the 4 of them. Hope they can sort everything out peacefully and push to the future together stronger than ever.
I love Kristen and Robert since the very beginning. We are all human beings. We make mistakes. She makes mistakes. But sometimes it can be a lesson in life. I pray for Robert and Kristen's reconciliation. That everything would be peacefully sorted out. All the hate and heavy hearts and confusion will cease to exist.
Thank you for your words. My heart has lightened. Prayers and love!
Lied Again One More
Here Comes The Sun
George Harrison/Paul Simon (1976):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIWyP_j8C6s
(No lyrics too tired-just listen)
Thank you/reni452002
DK - I once had a similarly surreal experience to your story, I've never forgotten it :)
You can be very angry at someone and STILL love them. And that's where I am personally with Kristen. Yes, I know she didn't do anything to me but she so very publicly hurt, disrespected and humiliated Rob. Do you think Rob isn't angry with her right now? I'm sure he's extremely angry, hurt, disappointed, shocked but I'm also sure he still loves her. You don't stop loving someone just because they hurt you...even if sometimes you wish you could.
Good Afternoon/Morning wherever you are in the day.
I was wondering what those who watched the Olympics opening ceremony thought of it?? I watched most of it and my favourite bit was the cauldron at the end, it was so beautifully thought out :))
Another day on and it's good to read through all the comments and see how we are all moving on.
Have a good day Roselanders xx
I know that kristen has made a very huge mistake but I wish people would remember that this is a girl that is 22 years old and has had a total of 2 boyfriends. I am sorry but I feel that she was chased by a 41 year old predator that should have known better but preyed on the insecurities of Kristen. I love both Robert and Kristen and wish the best for both of them.
DK
Good Morning! I was so tired when I got in last night, I just went to bed Between RL and all of this I was exhausted
To ALL the POSTERS last night except one
This tragedy has pulled out so many REGS that have not posted in awhile and LURKERS...For me, it has been a pleasure to see you all...I'm sorry it has been under these circumstances but I hope that as long as Rose continues this blog that we will see you guys more often.
To CHEPSEE
In NO WAY are we diminishing the great tragedies that are all around us! We are all human beings and so we all suffer flaws. We are a community of people that have a common interest...we are fans of some actors on here. I find it interesting that you felt the need to come on here and call us names and insult us. Your behavior on this blog is 110 times worse than anything we have ever said in print here.
Your insulting and degradating comments don't change the fact that EVERYBODY'S LIFE IS IMPORTANT!! Even YOURS!!!!!! So we will comment on anything that is going on with the actors we uphold. That does not however put us in the same classification as Ted Casablanca and US Magazine or the ugly Paps that harrass and sometimes murder ( Princess Diana) celebrities.
Rose, please don't give up on Rob and Kris. I beleive Kris made a major mistakes that will haunt her personal and professional life for a long time. The sad thing about this is that it will proabaly just boost Rupert ratings because really he is not someone I have ever heard of until this scandal. I just hope kristen hasn't hurt her professional life to bad with her press statement. I still can't quit thinking the girl is only 22 years old with 2 boyfriend in her life. Rupert is a predator of young girls and destroyed a life to get what he wanted.
ALI MAC
Good day to you! I have not seen a single thing with the Olympics! I hope I can find a video of the opening ceremonies.
ANGELICA
I love angel stories. Tell us yours sometime. I think they are around us all the time but we are so busy we don't really take notice.
I hope you ladies are having a wonderful day:)
Loui,
I also had that feeling about people. Some in their desire "to be there" for Kristen...do kinda seem to be forgeting that Rob was the one that was lied to and cheated and also was publicly humiliated because of this.
Now, this does not mean, that I don't feel sorry for Kristen or don't believe she is hurting, but in all of this my main concerne is Rob...how he is feeling...HIS pain.
Just stopping by to wish everyone a happy Saturday.
Hugs, peace, comfort, hope, love.... wishes to those who are hurting, especially Rob and Kristen.
Be good to each other, Roseland!
I don't like to go into someone's privacy,but you're more special ... I don't want to encourage them but to have you descurajez .... know you better what you have to do,what do I want to say "I wish more power to choose correct decision."I love you with all we love for what you are,you are young,you are beautiful, and you have my life in.Vampire or not,you just Robert Pattinson stay.You i kiss sweet.
I don't like to go into someone's privacy,but you're more special ... I don't want to encourage them but to have you descurajez .... know you better what you have to do,what do I want to say "I wish more power to choose correct decision."I love you with all we love for what you are,you are young,you are beautiful, and you have my life in.Vampire or not,you just Robert Pattinson stay.You i kiss sweet.
Morning all, happy Saturday...
DK- sorry I didn't stay around last night, I fell asleep lol. I loved reading your angel story :)
Ali- I wasn't able to watch all of the ceremony, but loved what I did see. It was a brilliant show!
Dottie- I have those same wishes...
Morning Roseland!
Can we PLEASE have some good news today???
Would these clouds PLEASE blow away?
Hi Everyone.
Super - I'll definitely tell you about it some time
IB - Good news would be great!!
Thank you, Rose. Thank you
IB- yes, I'm all for good news!
IB, I've been wishing everyday to things get better and to only good things happen...and hopefully it will soon.
Thank you dear Roselanders for all the healing music.
Sending thoughts and prayers to Rob and Kristen for continued privacy, maturity, wisdom, compassion and forgiveness.
If there were a way to share with Rob and Kristen the wisdom gained by traveling through the many ups and downs of my humble human journey, I would wish it to surely include being kind, respectful, honest and loyal while always keeping communication open and honorable, remembering that words and actions do last a lifetime not only in the minds of others, but in our own. There is no delete button in real life. The opportunity to step back and have space and time to think and seek advice before speaking and acting when in an emotional situation is not always possible, but when it is, use it. I have found that trust in others has been something that has been the most difficult for me, in my life, to recover even though giving forgiveness, including to oneself, does come more quickly and easily and is so very necessary to move on and have a positive and healthy outlook on life.
Also, am wishing Rob and Kristen the very best emotional and mental health support available. Their healthy and stable future....
whatever it may end up being....
as they work through these hard times, is worth every ounce of hard work, tears, self discovery and rebuilding of self and each other that they will need to go through independently and with the help of family, friends, and even professionals.
I am saddened as I think of their loss of innocence, purity, honesty, support and sanctuary that Rob and Kristen appeared to have with each other as they worked in the craziness and glare of the public eye.
***
Linda, hugs for you. Good to hear from you and hope all is well now.
Hugs for ya"ll here in Roseland.
Hugs, as always, for Smitty, Gruff and Syd, because you will always be cared about as if you were members of my extended family and friends.
Life is good. Look for the sunshine, if not today, perhaps tomorrow.
Hi everyone!
IB - Some good news would be perfect for today.
DK - Great story and I completely believe it
Angelica - Please tell us about yours some time
I don't know where to begin. Compassion. To be honest Rose, had you come out with guns blazing like so many people, I wouldn't return here. I do feel compassion for her.
Having compassion for Kristen does not condone her behavior or negate the sorrow I feel for Rob. No one should have this kind of personal tragedy put on display. This is not my tragedy but theirs. So Chepsee, get off your high horse.
Everyone is wired differently. It is easier for some to be compassionate and others to be judgmental. Not necessarily wrong,just different. My heart does not hate and I sure as shit have no right to judge another's actions in their personal life. I can judge my elected officials for choices they make that affect my life, but not the choices Kristen made that affect hers. Yes, you can argue that it affected her profession which affects her fans. In the grand scheme of things these are movies,entertainment. This is not life altering. Rob and Kristen's life (though we all treated it as such)was not meant to be entertainment. It sure wasn't to them.
Wrong as it was, I feel so sad for Kristen right now. I do not think this behavior was in character for her. I don't think she had a hidden evil alter ego. Maybe just a young woman with too much pressure that just caved in to something she shouldn't have and she stepped into it big. For someone as private as she,this has to be the ultimate injury even if self-inflicted. Do I think she meant to hurt Rob? No. She was not thinking. Had she been, she would not have jeopardized absolutely everything in her life. Did he deserve this? Of course not and my heart aches for him. I don't know how these two will heal, but I am ready to step back.
Having felt this kind of pain, I remember thinking I would never get through it and be OK again. Fucking overwhelming. I did get through, forgave and moved forward. Did it alter me? Most certainly, but I believe it made me stronger,wiser and more compassionate. I understand human flaws and rather than just look for them in others, I took a long hard look at my own. Take a real look in the mirror.
"Life is difficult." The first line in The Road Less Traveled by Scott Peck. This book absolutely helped me survive and I highly recommend it. This is not to sound trite because this truly became my mantra at the time,so for Rob and Kristen...this too shall pass. You will come to know that.
Olivia - so beautifully put. Thanks for sharing your beautiful words, and healing thoughts. You have a very special perspective on life.
Hi to Rhonda, Angelica, dottie, Katy, DK and all of other regs and newbies.
Have a peaceful day and I'll take some of that good news as well, Angelica.
Hi IB, Super, ali mac - I'm so sorry I missed you all on my earlier hello.
Morning Leni and Birdie.
Birdie - thanks for sharing your thoughts. You and Olivia have me feeling weepy - in a good way, if that makes sense.
It is so good to see you here aain,Freddie.
Olivia,
Truly words of wisdom.
I hope everyone has a better day!
I want to say that the days are getting better but they're just not. I find myself drawn to this damn computer wanting to go to my ROBSTEN websites, but I just can't. Seeing all the happy pictures hurts SO much. In my quest for an explanation, I just keep thinking that Kristen was just not ready for the kind of committment that Rob wanted and she didn't know how to break it off. In his interviews he's mentioned marriage and kids, but Kristen, not so much. I don't think she likes the idea of having kids. To me she just seemed that herl life was all about work, work, work. I also think that maybe she doesn't love HIM as much as HE loves her. I don't know, that's just my opinion. I wish I could fast forward life, just a little bit, to a time when everything is ok...for Rob, Kristen and for us. I'm tired of not being able to sleep, tired of feeling sick to my stomach and tired of being weepy. I know that how I'M feeling is nothing compared to how Rob feels. That beautiful, sweet man doesn't deserve this pain and I hope he has some time off before his next project begins so he has time to grieve. My son has been gone for 6 weeks with his dad and he's flying home in the morning so I am EXTREMELY greatful because now my mind will be on more important things (not that Rob and you all are not important). Hope you all have a good weekend. Love and prayers to Rob and all of you. xoxo
Hugs for you both, Birdie and Freddie.
As I have often wished, would love to go out and share a coffiee with y'all and the rest of the regs here from Roseland at the local coffee house. I guess this is the next best thing.
Chao for now. Am off to run some errands.
"coffee"
Seems my cuppa this morning hasn't kicked in yet!
: )
Olivia and Birdie, Your words are so true and full of hope. I pray there are people in RK's lives who are giving them this kind of encouragement and wisdom. I hope that THEIR emotional well being is considered above anything else right now.
I'd love some good news right now, too. I don't expect this will be resolved anytime soon, but I am holding on to hope that Rob and Kristen will take their time and not let their hurt overrule their hearts. Time heals and it would be a shame to throw something away and then regret it later. Whatever the outcome, I just want them to be healthy and whole.
Olivia- beautiful and eloquent words, as always <3
Hi Freddie, Birdie, Super, Katy, Leni, Angelica, DK, and anyone who's stopped by this morning that I've missed...((Hugs))
Dear Rose,
How are you doing today? I hope you're doing okay.
I love coming to Roseland becuse we can pour our hearts out without judgement or ridicule. I dont have friends who understand how i feel about Robsten that's why i feel this place is like a second home to me.
I am still heartbroken and angry.
How could the single action of one person hurt so many?
But as you said, we should have compassion.
and i qoute " Compassion will cure more than condemnation"
I pray with all of my heart that Robert will get through this and make him stronger. I hope he is surrounded by family and friends during these difficult times
As for Kristen, may she find comfort among family and friends
Thank you dear Rose for your words of wisdom
Olivia, I was drinking my coffee whilst reading your comment... does that count?? ;)
I have read that they are not speaking and that she is now out of the home they shared. Is this true? Is this credible information?
Is it time to change my name to
I Believed?
I went back and read the end of the last post as I had missed some comments.
Cate – if you pop back in, I just wanted to acknowledge your well-written and well-considered comment. Your assessment and wishes for Mr. Sanders couldn’t be more spot on.
Suebee – you are always a welcome contributor to this place. People have different views on this situation but discussion/debate can also be healthy.
IB - I heard that she left their house on Wednesday, but in truth who knows. If true, it could be that they both needed to leave to get away from the papps stationed like vultures outside their place. Time will tell.
Don't change your name yet...
@DreamerKind, thank you so much for the Kiss To Build a Dream On. It lifted my mood a bit in this dreary time. You are indeed a very good fairy godfriend for us all.
Boogie with Stew, Freddie, Dottie,Super RN Gas and all of my Roseland friends,
all of your words are comfort and wise thoughts; for all of us to ponder.
Nice to know all of you in this time of unrest.
May Rob and Kristen have all the support system that they need and privacy times for them to figure all this out.
No matter how worst the situation is, in the end, there'll always be a solution. Be what it may, it definitely be the best for both of them.
Gdnite all..
As a devoted fan of Rob and Kristen,
my best recourse has been to pray for them. I've prayed for them personally and posted prayer requests on Christian websites like www.OurPrayer.org.
Every prayer helps them and us to cope with the pain.
As a devoted fan of Rob and Kristen,
my main recourse is to pray for them.
Besides personal prayer, I've posted prayers on Christian websites like
www.OurPrayer.org.
hi guys i wasn't even gonna comment on here anymore I never usually read any of the crap out there but yesterday I made a big mistake n spend alot of time online n it hurts to read all the crap n more than anything how ppl believe it all n it gets bigger n bigger but I won't do that again. I love Kristen n none of this crap will change that n I'm sure Rob knows who she is too so they'll figure it out just stay happy guys goodbye
I was watching E News (I know, I Know) And they were discussing and the presenters both thought this was the end for Rob and Kristen. However I've not given up hope yet.
"I Believe", hold onto "Hope" for a little bit longer. This is a "groovie" situation and we are all going a bit "Dottie" I'm a bit of a "Dreamer" and Wouldn't it be "super" if love did conquer all :0) I think we can't believe all the tabloid stories and what little "Birdie's" have supposedly confided in them. (I think I've lost it a bit lol)
Olivia and Birdie well said.
Em I wouldn't consider Roses blog "crap" She has been a defender of Kristen's and put up with a lot of harassment in between, along with the posters. Just saying....
thank you rose. i'm sad, but I love rob, I love kristen
Rose once again you touch our hearts with your sensitivity and guidance. I know what Kristin did was out of character for her but at this time I am more hurt for Rob than her.I know she has gone through a hailstorm of public hate and emotional turmoil over this deed. I am more heartbroken for Rob he is a private and loving man who wore his heart on his sleeve. He knew Rupert and never thought he'd be blindsided by his love and this man who I am sure he felt comfortable with as a working situation. I think we are all crushed that he is going to have to attend the BD2Premiere and so is she how sad and awkward that is going to be if there is no resolution. I can imagine with this public humilation that he won't want to be around too many people as everyone will want to ask him what happened? I am sure that going to the Premiere for Cosmopolis is going to be hard for him as Kristen attended the Premiere with him in Berlin and we all remember the loving hug and support she gave him when he went to her after the movie was shown..so many heartbreaking things must be drifting in his head. Than of course the friend who has said he was ready to propose to her and this happens. I wish he could be in Austrailia now doing Rover or else where but he must stay and deal with the unheaval in his life caused by two people who did their own thing and caused a world of pain...WE have invested lots of time in the fandom and saddly most of us will have a hard time watching the devine wonderful chemistry this couple had on screen during the Twilight Saga and now we know how sad this has turned out in their own personal life. I will support Rob forever I have always thought there was something special about him and yes he will survive this and yes I do believe in forgiveness and I hope that can happen here but I don't think it will..as for Kristen I am sad she chose to get involved with a married man with 2 children and a wife she worked with and sadly I don't believe this was just a momentary fling and I sadly think the rest of the pictures that will be shown will tell us the rest of the story...Do I hate Kristin no I don't but at this time I don't like her very much but I do hope she is getting some help for all the pain she and Rupert caused to the people who love them
Rose once again you touch our hearts with your sensitivity and guidance. I know what Kristin did was out of character for her but at this time I am more hurt for Rob than her.I know she has gone through a hailstorm of public hate and emotional turmoil over this deed. I am more heartbroken for Rob he is a private and loving man who wore his heart on his sleeve. He knew Rupert and never thought he'd be blindsided by his love and this man who I am sure he felt comfortable with as a working situation. I think we are all crushed that he is going to have to attend the BD2Premiere and so is she how sad and awkward that is going to be if there is no resolution. I can imagine with this public humilation that he won't want to be around too many people as everyone will want to ask him what happened? I am sure that going to the Premiere for Cosmopolis is going to be hard for him as Kristen attended the Premiere with him in Berlin and we all remember the loving hug and support she gave him when he went to her after the movie was shown..so many heartbreaking things must be drifting in his head. Than of course the friend who has said he was ready to propose to her and this happens. I wish he could be in Austrailia now doing Rover or else where but he must stay and deal with the unheaval in his life caused by two people who did their own thing and caused a world of pain...WE have invested lots of time in the fandom and saddly most of us will have a hard time watching the devine wonderful chemistry this couple had on screen during the Twilight Saga and now we know how sad this has turned out in their own personal life. I will support Rob forever I have always thought there was something special about him and yes he will survive this and yes I do believe in forgiveness and I hope that can happen here but I don't think it will..as for Kristen I am sad she chose to get involved with a married man with 2 children and a wife she worked with and sadly I don't believe this was just a momentary fling and I sadly think the rest of the pictures that will be shown will tell us the rest of the story...Do I hate Kristin no I don't but at this time I don't like her very much but I do hope she is getting some help for all the pain she and Rupert caused to the people who love them. I am praying for the both of them.
The devistating fact is that the haters were given exactly what they wanted, wrapped in a little package, with a bow on top and hand delivered. So sad but heartbreakingly true.
Hi Em- yeah, it's better not to read any of that stuff right now. It'll only upset you further. Hold on to what you know and believe to be true. Take care, sweetie <3
devastating
30 maybe u should go back n read what i said again bc all I said was I spent too much time online reading all the crap out there not here just I think everyone here is great but how many times like how long can u go on n on talking about the same thing? I really gotta go but sorry if anyone got mad
Rhonda hiii hope ur okay
Hi EM
I knew exactly what you meant...take care and I hope you are enjoying your wedding plans.
RHONDA
Glad to hear you had a nice vacation.
IB
Waving HI....WHY would you change your name? Always Believe!
@Hope~I'm trying!
Ah, Roseland...
Haven't peeked here for about 24 hours, and I see 250+ posts. What a blessing that all of us have somewhere to go to show support for Rob AND Kristen. And for each other.
Beautiful words, beautiful songs, beautiful thoughts (well, with the exception of one cuckoo).
And a very wonderful Rose.
Hugs to all - and I mean ALL.
Good day.. to all @ Birdie.. well said... I have been down such road..@ DK Angels..yep we entertain them all the time..
Hello Freddie.. *I* B.. don't change your moniker..@30 no worries..enjoy your time with your hubby... Rose has got this...It's all good Hope & EM...Ali mac turn the channel it's a trick..@faa & Hope...just breath...we all generally have one common goal compassion... & healing to all..
I myself have enjoyed watching the Olympics and the muscles on the bikers and the swimmers nice distration...
blink my eyes.. Suebee..oh my life is a circle...
Hello Super.. too my list keeps growing..
This is my first comment here even though I have lurked for months, and I just want to say thank you, thank you, thank you! Your wonderful posts have been such a comfort to me. When I start feeling really sad, I just come here to read your posts and the comments of your wonderful regulars, and I feel so much better! I love them both and feel what I know is only a small fraction of their pain. I hope for only the best for both of them.
Hello Oliva & Dottie maybe I'll have a late after cup of java as well I need some more energy ..
jump on board Katlanta...this is a great place with a common bond.. Rose has made us all welcome...
OLIVIA & BIRDIE
Your posts brought on tears this morning....such wise advice for both Rob and Kristen, for anyone going through difficult times.
Olivia, how true...there is no delete button in real life.
I wish you lived closer to me in our great state because I would love to have you over for coffee or wine.
DK
Loved your Angel experience.
THANK YOU to everyone sharing music selections ...reading the lyrics of some put a big lump in my throat.
I can only add that I hope Rob's friends Tom, Marcus, Sam, and others are there for him. He could really use their friendship right now. And his family.
I can see that interest in all of this has dwindled on the internet and twitter and that's good.
I woke this morning with positive thoughts and I see most of you all did too. If I had a crystal ball to see the future I think I'll see a stronger Rob emerging from this. One who is more reserved but still that goofy guy. I think his career will be his focus and projects will line up for him.
I think we'll see a more mature Kristen who is more considerate and not so eager to flaunt convention as she has been. Her rising star has fallen so she might throw her energies into charity which would help both her and others. In some ways these past events will benefit their careers because the relationship will no longer loom over every discussion. Life goes on.
I know I'm new here so I hope my opinion doesn't go against the grain. You seem like a close bunch and I don't want to intrude.
Thanks so much, Boogie with Stew! This is such a great place to visit, and I love the way most people here are trying to get past the disappointment and hurt to support R/K. And Rose, your posts, especially the last two, have been a model for all of us on how people should be treated when they are down. Let's don't kick them-let's help them stand up again.
Good Afternoon Everybody
FREDDIE. I have missed you. I hope to catch you soon. How are you doing ? How is Tomas? How is work?w
I guess at this point I'm surprised that the comments are still overflowing on the blog here...I think we just need to get it out...have someplace to come and express our feelings
I guess I don't have much more to say..ok..maybe I do...but it may be worse next week when more s---t hits the fan but let's try to keep some perspective here...they didn't die! Hopefully they won't for a long, long, time so as bad as it is...things could be worse....let's pray they won't! And while there is life, there is HOPE...always.
About ROB...As some of you are saying, I want to also say, I don't really think I can adequately express it in words how badly I feel for him. There are no words!!! But he did the right thing to leave. And I'm sitting here saying this and of course it's just my opinion but he needs to stay away for a good while...she needs to fully feel the impact of his absence. He was a human shield for her in many ways. I think she will be surprised just how much she depended on his love and protection.
The Director dude...I don't know why...I shouldn't be so crass about it, but he is an old man compared to her. Even IF, he were to leave his family and move in with Kristen, it would take no time for him to realize they have NOTHING in common but SWATH....that isn't going to carry them for long...
All this to say, be happy everybody. We have set ourselves up for this . The chips are going to fall where they fall and nothing is going to change it but I have seen much worse situations right here in my own home town that had a happy ending so in the face of devastation I still feel hopeful.
Hello to RHONDA, DOTTIE,LITMOM,HOPE,KATY,EM...don't leave us EM!!!,30, FAA, and anybody I may have missed from this morning. Have a good one.
@ Katlanta you are so welcome..
@ luckystrike ..everyone is entitled to thier own opinion
we here in Roseland .. we play nice ... the regs that is...
lessesons to be learned ..life has a way of doing this..for all..
Thanks Rosie girl for all you do ..love ya for keepin it real ..and hey Syd, Grif, and wasn't there A friend... i get so confused..howdy to all the old & new folks here.. ....find some peace knowing thier is someone Big in the driver seat ... love & hugs to all
howdy Super.. you and Dk headed out soon to Maple leaf land I saw a couple days ago... did I get that right??? Happy adventures..
So nothing like posting while at work. So I sat down with my future son in law last night and asked him in his wise age of 19 yrs some questions cause most of my friends have always thought I think more like a guy than a girl when it comes to relationships and love and stuff.After being laughed at and asked if I was serious (more than once - I guess asking about the twilight people makes me a girls) I asked him if he had heard about the Kristen/Robert mess - of course he asked who I was talking about, I had to (god help me) refer to them as Bella and Edward for him to get who I was talking about which lead to more laughing and making fun of me....sigh. I asked him if my daughter cheated on him would he take her back (he is like the person that thinks if you wrong me screw you and move on). He thought for a little and said - look I really love her and I would be so pissed but I would take her back but god help her she would be on probation until I decided she served her term (which made me laugh). He said if you really love someone and they are sorry it is not always to walk away because you are always left regret and what ifs. Wise boy he is and it may have made me relax a little about them and this jumping 2 feet into the water so fast. I also shared the pictures and told him how private she is. He and I will talk conspiracy stuff all the time (I just refuse to indulge in his zombie crap) and he asked why they were both looking at the camera, a question I have not been able to shake and has bugged me and I know is not for me to know but just is so odd. I don't want to feed into the speculation but what he said next made complete and utter sense to me. I think there is just more to this whole situation that we will probably never know but with that being said I decided it was time to let it go, I decided even if she had sex with him it was not my business and that if they are meant to be - they will be - end of story. I hope the decisions they make our theirs and theirs alone without any out side influence as that will lead to a life of what if's.
@ GWS..wise future son n law you have..ha ha Zombies we work those folks all the time just look around..
I think Rose pretty much sumed it up.. We ain't spose to know... but with this electronic age and no boundries..our inner CSI ... we are having a hard time with the
why?
Only time will tell...
when that bath salt story came out he was like OMG I told you zombies are real - grab all the kids and lets go sit in a football field so we can kill them as they come. My kids range from 19, 17, 9, 8 and 6 - let me tell you it is no fun to sleep with 3 little girls piled on you cause he scared them to death. His theories made a lot of sense to me and it was cool to talk to someone on the outside that has no time invested - was a interesting convo to say the least
@GWS.. I remember those days..the bed pile up..
but it was the boogey man..
good you could share ... hope you have an awesome day...
BOOGIE
I wish!!!! Hahaha. It's good to see you on the blog. I'm just sorry it took these circumstances to bring all of us out from hiding...
I'm sitting here at home alone again and watching. You've Got Mail. Don't know why, but I watch it about once a month. I don't ever get tired of it... I know, I need to get a life ,huh..:)
GINGER
OMG I was just telling a co worker about my son. A man scared him to death with a Halloween mask when he was about 3. from that point on he became deathly afraid of masks, clowns, etc. He only trick or treated once or twice. he hated it and wanted nothing to do with it. If a clown came into his classroom at school he would freak out!
When I think of Zombies I think of Michael Jackson and Thriller....can't get enough of it....love it...I have the This Is It DVD and often enjoy it. Lol I'm a 56 year old with the mind of a kid....I know...it's scary:)
awwwwwh there you are super... good to hear from you...
awwh you have a life... your cup runneth over..
tis sad indeed but by grace..Roseland is here for all that have wandered to return for comfort ...
I too have many favorites....
Sleepless in Seattle
is one.. and mnay more
but as you know I am the eternal
hopeful romantic the spin off of the hippie generation...
so I will always have hope and a Beatle song in my heart..
missed everyone.. peace and love
Boogie with Stew aka MaryJane
and for real Stephanie giggles
love thriller..one day going to learn the whole dance routine..
I know quite of few kids are scared of clowns.. Ronald Mc Donald ..ain't scary but that movie "IT" freked me out..
I love Halloween but I'm not into gore to much... I have been
Captain Jack for 6 years and we do pirated and skeletons and eyeballs..
off topic multi tasking..
enjoying male swimmer butts..
of course watching the Olympics...
Ahh it awesome to be young in body and soul - I am 37 walk around in converse, jeans and band tee's. I want to live life and not have age tell me I can't do it anymore cause that is for the kids. Hell I am marking off my calendar every day until 8/30 when I get to rock out center stage for Incubus and Linkin Park. Besides even now "being" old is to confining for me, I will be old in my 90's if even then - they have areas at concerts for me even then !!!!
waving at Dottie ... going to go check out your links thanks for sharing..
I don't Kristen but my heart breaks for Rob. A part of me can't help but wonder if this relationship was ever real. Was it all just an act? Were they tired of living a lie and wanted a way to end it in such a fashion that summit couldn't put a good spin on it? But then I look back at the last few months, especially May, and I know that this wasn't a PR relationship. Or at least I refuse to believe it. They seemed so in love and so proud of each other. Rob seemed to live her so so much. How could Kristen hurt him this way? I really hope that the rumors of Kristen knowing that the pap was there when she was with RS isn't true because then it makes the hurting and humiliation of Rob very deliberate. And selfish since the wife and kids were never given a thought. I have so many questions and I know that I don't have a right to them. I want them so that I can understand and move on. It's my fault for idealizing their relationship especially since I only know the public parts of it. But that doesn't stop me from hurting for Rob. I hope he is okay.
GWS that's funny.. rock it out..
Haha BOOGIE...MJ
We would have fun together trying to learn the dance moves to Thriller!!!
I love all kinds of Halloween outfits but I confess there is something sinister about clowns. I have always hated them ....they make me very uncomfortable. Lol
Enjoy the male swimmers!!!! That is definitely in my comfort zone;)
Sorry for the delete. One of the links didn't work & I noticed a grammatical error. It was driving me crazy!
Darling EM, I understand how you feel. Things seem to be blown way out of proportion at this point. BY HW scandal standards this is so minor but it's being treated like it's one of the worst things a celeb has ever done. (I realize it isn't minor to those involved, believe me.) The good news is things will settle down in time. You're probably right though that even we well-meaning fans probably keep it going a bit by continuing to discuss it. It just feels like there is so much negativity out there it makes us want to just be that much more supportive. You are such a great loyal friend. Don't leave! ((hugs!))
A smart friend on Twitter posted some beautiful quotes. I'm just going to post the links if anyone wants to look. Good reminders for all of us.
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SENGSENG
It wasn't fake...whether they get back together is a 50/50 toss up. I believe it is quite possible. Only time will tell though.
Hi DOTTIE
THANKS. I will check it out.
DOTTIE
that was lovely :)
I will say the one lesson that I have learned more than anything (I knew it to an extent before but not like this) is women are vilified no matter what. This is separating the personal feelings I have for 2 people I don't know but at the end of the day everyone wants her to owe something to his wife, to the public, and beg for forgiveness. What about him - it was his marriage, it was his family, it was his vows to uphold and he is not being asked to kneel at our feet or asked to explain to Rob or her family for his sins. The things that kills me more is it is a majority of women vilifying her and calling her the names. It was a majority of women tearing her down daily before this - I still think it says something about us women as a whole. No man is perfect as we are not either nor do we know anything than more than what they have allowed us to see. I am not saying this about Rob cause I can only imagine the hurt he has (I think the public embarrassment is huge factor in his reaction as well and possibly why it did not allow them to work this out privately at the time although we have no idea what they are doing or if they are talking which I do hope they are) but we are so busy objectifying her that we forget these are real people that have real emotions. I loved my husband to death, then at one point I wanted to scoop his eyeballs out with a rusty spoon cause the way he breathed got on my nerves.I won't even getting into the chewing with his mouth open cause yeah I would leave the room, probably why he is now my ex.
Seriously, the only way that Rupert Sanders' career will flourish in any capacity is if each of us forgets what he did. Movies are rated by return on investment. The director is equally rewarded, as much as the lead actors, if their movies make money. I'm sorry, but I looked at the "pictures" again, and each time, it reinforces my belief that he set-up Kristen. I'm NOT absolving Kristen in any capacity. But it's obvious in the pictures that he used his fraternity with her to transform an innocent embrace into seduction. You can tell that at first contact, Kristen looked awkward. Her arms were pushing against his embrace. But for some reason, she progressively became more comfortable with him. God knows what Rupert Sanders told her to get her sympathy and compliance. Of course her weakness at his advances is the focal point of all blame and hatred thrown at her right now. To her credit, according to the news, she blames no one but herself. I think she will be blaming and hating herself for a very long time. So this compassion post is very timely because we cannot ease whatever hate and blame Kristen is inflicting on herself. But back to the Sanders...my assumption is that his next project from whichever studio is his reward for this "mission". If you're worried that he will be successful after this, then make a conscious effort NOT to support whatever movie he makes. He doesn't need to benefit any further. The fact is, if not for Kristen Stewart, SWATH would not get the kind of attention and box-office response it did. Kristen Stewart made SWATH a success. Any other actress would have generated no more than a blimp at the box-office. But because it's Kristen, it became a global success. That success alone has benefited Rupert Sanders. And what does he do in return? He sabotages Kristen. A lot of people have seen the "pictures" and many have noticed that Sanders kept looking at the camera during the course of his interaction with Kristen, like he knows exactly where it is and he's making sure that the photographer is getting all the action. Who did he do this for? I can only assume that it's for a rival studio or a rival agent that will benefit from the demise of Kristen and Rob, because let's face it, both Rob and Kristen are affected by this. This guy hit two birds with one stone, turning Kristen into a home-wrecker while emasculating Rob at the same time. Boycott any movie or project he makes. Boycott them. A lot of hatred are being thrown at Kristen right now and her career is definitely going to take a hit. Why should she be the only one to bear the consequences? So if you're worried that Rupert Sanders is going to benefit from all this, just boycott anything he makes.
DOTTIE...I think I love you....all of your posts over the past few days have been amazing.
SUPER....HEY! I love YOU'VE GOT MAIL...it's one of my favorites too. Hope you are having a nice weekend.
BOOGIE...LOL...giggling along with you.
Hi Ginger and Rogue and everyone here today.
Haha HOPE! I will take all the love I can get. I'm greedy like that!
"You've Got Mail" is one of those movies that I will watch if it is on TV, even if I come into it 1/2 way through. It's so charming.
ok I posted and the dang computer went bonkers so here it goes again..
@ Super yes we would have a blast, as well as many others on here of like mind
@ Dottie I wondered what tha..
I get it about the grammer and the type O's but I had to let those go for me...
@ GWS & Rouge I understand, but I wasn't there the body language thing..yep we all noticed.. some would probably want her to wear a scarlet A ..
Don't really give a shit what Hollyweird says or those other sites.. that's why I like it here..
I feel a song commin on..hey DK
and dang swimmer butts are gone..
Rogue,
You have raised some very valid points. What does he gain from hurting Rob? Lot of us thought things were not right, but thought maybe he just wanted to push Kristen into telling Rob of the affair. Doesn't that make more sense? He gets Kristen because it's obvious to me its a midlife crisis cuz she's so much younger.
@ Hope always keep a giggle handy to help you thru the day
ROGUE
Let's see how it all plays out. But I take what you say very seriously
HOPE
isn't it wonderful to have all the old Regs back? I hope everyone stays for a long time! You have a wonderful weekend.!
DOTTIE
You are a gem!
@ Dottie thanks for sharing very true... love is a verb love that
John Mayer
cheers..gotta get on with cleaning ... yikes... will be back later... still working on a song..
Yes...@ Super it is great to see everyone again..
I swear I didn't want to write this but I wonder if he didn't convince her Rob was cheating on her over time. That was part of the son in laws theories. I just can't shake that he knew and I just can't shake that his wife knew before they announced to the parties there were pictures and they had 1 day before the published them. It also explains why she would be in the open and maybe found out that is was in fact not true to late. Sorry if this upsets anyone not my intention just writing the rambles in my head.
GINGER
Only conjecture...Some things we will know with time...some things we will never know
I can´t cast the stone, I don´t hate her, but I can´t be a fan of Kristen anymore. Sorry
Guys, I don't want to add fuel to fire. I just noticed what I noticed about the body language. The first contact embrace was awkward for Kristen. Two pictures of that embrace showed her arm pushing against him. So to me, there was an initial resistance which quickly melted away for some reason. It seemed like an innocent reunion turned seduction turned make-out session. I hate it. Also, if you look at all the pictures, Kristen was showing off her biceps to Rupert in the car. She was in conversation with him. Like she's bragging about the kind of preparation she's doing for her movie Cali...uh, the movie where she plays a porn star. He indulged her in conversation. See, now is the point where you all tell me to get a life because I'm looking at the pictures way too much. But it's true! The car pics show Kristen showing off her biceps to Rupert. They talked about it and the next thing you know they're kissing. What happened?!!! Did he tell her he can coach her on how a porn star kisses? God help me, I want to kill him!!! Now, as far as timeline is concerned, after looking over at other facts, I now think this happened ONLY ONCE. I'm thinking that the prelude to this seduction consisted of a lot of text messages exchanged between them. Many many text messages. Why do I say this? See, on July 4, Liberty Ross blogged about a family vacation she was having with her husband and kids. If that vacation lasted two weeks, that means Rupert just got back from that vacation. So I'm assuming that his contact with Kris were made through text messages that were long-winding and provocative. That's why when they met, there was an initial awkwardness, but because there were text messages (I'm assuming here) to go back to, it was easy to recalibrate the innocent meeting to seduction. Can I just say I hate Rupert Sanders one more time? I hate him.
Moving along...
@luckystrike87, what does the pig Rupert Sanders gain (fine, no name-calling) from hurting Rob? Just like Kristen, Rob has so many industry rivals. I think he's not the only major young actor who auditioned for Mission Blacklist and he booked that gig after a 7-hour audition. Cosmopolis made him the envy of many agents and their wards. Rumors have it that Andrew Garfield is very competitive towards Rob. But Garfield is also a Brit who's taking jobs away from many American actors. Needless to say, many American actors who are not getting gigs because a Brit is getting them will pay good money and make golden promises to whoever can take down Rob. What better way to do that than to emasculate him first. Who better to do that than the ambitious director who earned the trust of his girlfriend. I can't see nothing here but sabotage, because if Rupert truly cared for Kristen and intended to make this meeting last more than once, he would have ensured her safety from the pappz. It's obvious that his intention was only to do this once because one set of incriminating photos is enough to ruin Kris and Rob. US Weekly said that it was Rupert Sanders who directed Kristen where to park the car. Of course he did, because he wants to make sure Kristen parked right where the pappz were. All this screams that he was on a mission to sabotage both Rob and Kristen in exchange for lucrative assignments. Rupert Sanders is ambitious. He thinks this is his time to strike because he's been a cellar dweller for 7 years before SWATH came about. If a rival studio or a rival agent promised him a movie contract in exchange for the head of Rob and Kristen, do you think he won't do it? Can I just say one more time that I hate Rupert Sanders. I have no compassion for him. God forgive me.
So again, if you want to make sure that Rupert Sanders doesn't benefit from this scandal, please, please, boycott everything he makes. Everything.
Rogue,
I have to say your thoughts are very interesting. And don't worry, I have no life today either and you sound like a good fan, maybe a touch over invested but that's ok. Everyone here is puzzled about all of this, but I at least never considered a set up by a rival actor. And you say Andrew is a rival, I had read that but thought it just gossip. And you bring up Kristen's state of mind when Rob is gone, unfortunate if she is so adrift then but don't you think this is a little extreme, to fall under this guy's spell. There must be other factors at work.
Like everyone here I really feel for Rob in this and to think someone he might know could be behind it is too much. I really hope he is being well taken care of so he can cope and heal. I can't give Kristen a pass even if she was set up because she had choices and made the wrong one. I wish her well too and harbor no hateful feelings toward her, but don't you think she has to beat herself up over this for awhile I think to come out better on the other side. I'm kind of new around here so maybe that's not a popular opinion but I mean no offense.
Dottie ur sweet n I like u guys here so nice :) I try to see just how u guys r doing when I can just life is crazy n busy for me but I gotta go it's my moms bday n we have a surprise for her like she has no idea n I wanna see her face when she sees lol shes gonna flip! bye guys
What do you all think about Kristen not wanting to fully committ to Rob....marriage, kids? To me, she's always given the impression that her life is all about her work and not too much else. I mean Rob's been with her for so long and he's mentioned about wanting marriage and a family. I don't think Kristen ever had any intentions of fulfilling those things with Rob. This is just my opinion.
@luckystrike87
As I said in my previous post, I'm not absolving Kristen in any capacity. It was obvious that the initial contact was awkward for her, so why she weakened at his advances is the very reason for all the blame and hate thrown at her right now.
Like I said, according to the news, she blames no one but herself and is beating herself up for it. I also think she should do some self-evaluation as to why she let it happen.
But while she's beating herself up, I was really drawn to the motivation of Rupert Sanders. It's clear this is a one-time gig for him, because if he was planning to have a progressive love affair with Kristen, he would have met her somewhere inconspicuous, at least somewhere with a roof and a few walls for cover. But according to US Weekly, he was the one who called Kristen and directed Kristen where to go. And guess where he told her to go? The great OUTDOORS.
Kathy,
Since I seem to be the only one without a life and hanging out on the internet I'll try to answer for you which is of course just a guess. All I know is I was ready to commit at 22 so it's not too young. What I really think is none of us really know who Kristen is. We thought we did but it's all changed now. All I can say is It's Rob Fvcking Pattinson, who wouldn't commit.
Rogue,
Didn't see you sneak in there. If you've read any comments here the whole outdoor aspect has us all scratching our heads. But then why would Kristen agree to it and why didn't she call Rob and say Rupert wants to meet me, what do you think he wants or call someone for backup. That's what we girls do when we're unsure of a situation, we call our boyfriends or girlfriends to come with us. So many questions.
@Kathy the only thing that makes me not think that is her trying to get him back. She was going to get trashed one way or the other so why not just admit to the whole thing apologize generically and let it blow over - Outside of the Twilight community it would go away - another scandal would eventually replace it and I think she was already trying really hard to separate herself from teen movies anyway. Her public plea from her to him changed my mind - her PR team would have rebutted it had it been false cause it didn't help her in fact it made her already established haters hate her more and more people turn on her. I think she loves him, I think that we have all done something and didn't personally realize the impact until we are faced with something we want to keep so very bad. I could feel the sobs in that apology, the desperation felt so real.
Happy Birthday to your mom, EM! I hope she loves her surprise. (of course she will!)
Ok a have a song DK
3 Doors Down
Here By Me
I hope you're doing fine out there without me
'Cause I'm not doing so good without you
The things I've thought you'd never know about me
Were the things I guess you always understood
So how could I have been so blind for all these years?
Guess I only see the truth through all this fear
And living without you, and everything I had in this world
And all that I'll ever be, it could all fall down around me
Just as long as I have you right here by me
I can't take another day without you
'Cause baby, I could never make it on my own
I've been waiting so long just to hold you
And to be back in your arms where I belong
[ From: http://www.elyrics.net/read/0-9/3-doors-down-lyrics/here-by-me-lyrics.html ]
Sorry I can't always find the words to say
But everything I've ever known gets swept away
Inside of your love and everything I had in this world
And all that I'll ever be it could all fall down around me
Just as long as I have you right here by me
As the days grow long I see
That time is standing still for me
When you're not here
Sorry I can't always find the words to say
Everything I've ever known gets swept away
Inside of your love everything I had in this world
And all that I'll ever be it could all fall down around me
Just as long as I have you right here by me
And everything I had in this world
And all that I'll ever be it could all fall down around me
Just as long as I have you right here by me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=RGwvFwNqJ2Y
since you put this for the title Rose..I can't get this dang song out of my head..very famous during my day...
Love hurts, love scars,
Love wounds, and mars,
Any heart, not tough,
Or strong, enough
To take a lot of pain,
Take a lot of pain
Love is like a cloud
Holds a lot of rain
Love hurts, ooh ooh love hurts
Im young, I know,
But even so
I know a thing, or two
I learned, from you
I really learned a lot,
Really learned a lot
Love is like a flame
It burns you when it's hot
Love hurts, ooh ooh love hurts
Some fools think of happiness
Blissfulness, togetherness
Some fools fool themselves I guess
They're not foolin me
I know it isn't true,
I know it isn't true
Love is just a lie,
Made to make you blue
Love hurts, ooh,ooh love hurts
Ooh,ooh love hurts
[guitar solo]
I know it isn't true,
I know it isn't true
Love is just a lie,
Made to make you blue
Love hurts, ooh ooh love hurts
Ooh ooh love hurts
Ooh ooh...
@luckystrike87
You nailed it when you said calling your bf for backup is what we girls do when we're UNSURE of the situation, which means when we suspect something is fishy. And that's where all this hinges on. Kristen DIDN'T call Rob for backup because for her, there was nothing fishy. Sanders offered to meet OUTDOORS which means there's no intention of mischief that needs hiding. It initially gave her the impression that this is just an innocent meeting between her and Rupert. Well, at least it started that way, until she actually met him and he hugged her provocatively. And that's why the initial embrace was awkard for her and she appeared resistant (pushing at his embrace). Why the tone suddenly changed is what I'm curious about. He must have said something to her that made her relax to his advances. There are pictures where they're just standing by the fence talking seriously. And then he hugs her again and kisses her cheek. And this is the point where she starts to weaken, and the very reason why she's on the receiving end of a lot of blame and hatred. But this is also the reason why I believe it's a one time thing. Because it was Rupert who set the meeting outdoors (with my assumption that his intention was really to be photographed with Kristen). If this has been an ongoing affair which has progressed beyond just making-out, they would have definitely met somewhere where there is a horizontal flat plane where they can have biblical action. Also, if he wanted this first meeting to become a full blown affair, the meeting would also have been indoors.
there is so much drama from this. i've seen some blaming rob for this as well, which i don't see how. kristen screwed up big time. it's not my place to trash her, but i will admit i did loose respect for her. whether rob takes her back or not is his choice, and no matter what he chooses i will respect it. i just can't seem to feel a lot of sympathy for kristen. i've tried, but i can't. everytime i think i can i feel she just told rob, because she got caught. as for rupert well i think he is scum period.
So now I know to stay completely away from People Mag - that is a pretty distasteful article - in fact the last 2 are just bleeding this for more hits. I also hope that if they repair their relationship that they take a step back from work - all that time apart before was not good - now can be worse. I think they need time for them.
Rogue,
You have really thought this out and I admit you've posed some really interesting ideas. You should write because you have a great sense of investigation/and or imagination. Your scenario does explain why uber private Kristen would meet outside. I know this is kind of pervy but wouldn't you have loved to been a fly in his greasy hair and hear what was going on, how this all came to be?
Since you've thought this out so well, how does Rupert pay for his part in this? Let's take him down, lol. Obviously, suggesting don't go to his movies isn't going to cause him damage since the 20 or so people here won't put a dent in it. And where does the wife figure in on all this? Was she in on it because that was a risk he took that she wouldn't walk? This is intriguing to me, a small town office manager, and the workings of big bad Hollywood.
REA L PR PRO
I sure would love to hear your thoughts on this....
I agree~I would love to hear from PR PRO!
@Rogue,you and my husband have the same theory.When he came home last Wednesday from work,I was surprised when he told me that him and his coworker discussed this at work and were looking and analyzing the pics. And according to him RS,definitely knows that the papz were their,the way his looking at the pics.Nobody heard about RS before,and now everybody are talking about him and his wife.He gaining from this event,while trying to destroy Rob/Kristen.Somebody was promising him a deal.
@luckystrike87
I know I look like a loser for over-analyzing this to death. But analysis is the best way to overcome shock. What are the first things you ask when something weird happens? It's...What? When? Where? But more interestingly you dwell on the Why? and How?
Boycotting anything Rupert Sanders makes is all I can think of right now. People are starting to point out that he's equally to blame for this scandal and not just Kristen, so I hope that the huge Twilight community realizes this and make a conscious effort not to support his career.
As for the wife, I've been thinking about this...what do you think she meant when she tweeted a quote from Marilyn Monroe 2 days before the scandal broke:
"Sometimes, things fall apart so that better things can fall together."
I hope she didn't mean that Rob and Kristen fall apart via her husband in exchange for her director husband and her actress self getting new gigs from those who will benefit from the fall of Rob and Kris.
I truly hope not.
Too many people are making money off this too feel right. That adds to the fishy part of this whole thing
@Holy
See!!! I knew a lot of people are thinking the same thing! I swear I'm not the only one who thinks Rupert Sanders used his fraternity with Kristen to set her up into this scandal. We hate and blame her that she succumbed to his advances and allowed herself to be seduced, but let's face it, Rupert didn't care two sh!ts about Kristen. This is a one-shot mission for him. Otherwise, why did he direct Kristen to meet him outdoors? He had no intention of having sex with her which further reinforces my belief that the wife is in on the plan. Being photographed making-out is incriminating enough to create a scandal to tear down Rob and Kris.
Good evening, friends!
Some fascinating sleuthing going on here. Too bad for those unfortunately embroiled in the thick of it especially R & K. It's a jungle out there.
@Em
You do as you, do. We care deeply. Hang when you're able. XO
Back later after chow..
Hi all, just got home from working all day, feel so left out.
ROGUE -- Wow, such interesting theories, I had never considered a rival being involved. Had already seen the "creepy" pics of him looking at the camera while kissing her and feel like he set her up for some reason. It still doesn't excuse her behavior. Let's just hope that somehow Rob finds out about the scumbag (like he doesn't already know he's a scumbag, right?) and the possibility that Kristen was setup.
Frankly, I think the reason Rob feels so betrayed is because:
1. She left THEIR bed that morning, not like he was across the world or something.
2. She had several days to TELL HIM about it, cry, beg forgiveness, etc.
Not saying he still wouldn't have been hurt by the pics in the magazine, etc. but he might not have felt so blindsided by her lies for those days afterwards. NOT to mention the fact that they probably had sex during that time and it probably just is killing him to think about her hiding all that from him.
BY THE WAY... I apparently have no life either. We all know this isn't going to resolve itself any time soon. AND, we should all prepare ourselves for the possibility that they will be coerced into "acting" like they're getting along just until BD2 comes out and none of us would know the difference. They ARE actors. BUT, perhaps if they pretend enough, they might actually give it another shot. I think if they do, it'll be a long time before that happens. And a lot will probably depend on Kristen's behavior. She's never been without a boyfriend... she needs to show him she can be alone in order to show him how much she loves him. She might not have it in her. And I have a hard time admitting that but, if so, he'll be better off without her. GOD, THAT HURT TO TYPE IT!!! I want her to be besotted with him so much that she'd be single for 5 years if they breakup. But we don't know anything.
I really need to get a life!!! But, thank you all for being here for those of us who are totally obsessed.
Rogue,
I just returned from a bike ride with a guy friend and did you know men have to adjust their balls when they ride a bike, have to be in the middle he says. The things I'm learning today.
Ok, the wife. Maybe her marriage was over anyway so this gives her an out with more perks thrown in the deal. With your description of Hollywood deals, her being in on the whole thing wouldn't be so farfetched. They had a whole vacation to plan it. Since you have analyzed these pictures quite thorogly how do you explain theones where he appears to be exploring lower areas, to put it nicely?
I do have something more to support your no sex thing, at least this time, there is no way they could be gettring biblical in that car!
This is my first time commenting and I hope no one minds me jumping in like this, but I'd like to ask Rogue a question.
@ Rogue, you mentioned the quote from Rupert Sanders wife and it has been bothering me since I read those words when this hit the news, it was such an odd thing to say.
After reading your comments here today I am beginning to wonder if those words meant that by this being such a big story, and with people talking about little else, that Somehow this would lead to Rupert becoming more sought after by studios and that she too would be more in demand once she 'forgave' him and took him back. Do you think that is possible? That there was a twisted hope that by setting up Kristen to look like she was cheating, with Rupert he would suddenly become more sought after? Is it true that there is no such thing as bad publicity?
It just seemed like an odd thing for a wife to say when her husband is caught 'cheating'. Maybe I'm grasping at straws. What do you think?
@luckystrike.. I'm older I knew that about balls and bikes...
OK now is my 3rd day to post this quote.. It keeps haunting me..
Sometimes I wondered if I was seeing the same things through my eyes that the rest of the world was seeing through theirs. Maybe there was a glitch in my brain.
Bella Swan, Twilight, Chapter 1, p.11
WE all have our theories, or speculations, or hunches, but as our Rosie said ain't up to us..
And all those news feeds etc.. all for the almight dollar..again Hollywerid...
We're on the outside lookin in...
@luckystrike87
I just have to say that since I'm such a loser and studied the pictures in sequence (LOL), I can say that at first they were kissing, and then he tried to go down on her and she stopped it because there's a picture where it seemed that her left arm was out to hold him off. He then prepped up and resumed by kissing her neck and then continuing to kiss her on the mouth.
More to the point...if he successfully went down on her (which didn't happen because she clearly stopped it as evidenced by the fact that there's only one photo of it where he's attempting to do it...God I'm such a loser), believe me, there would have been less mouth to mouth kissing photos and more of just his head on the southern region of her archipelago. But he prepped up and kissed her on the neck and just proceeded to kiss her on the mouth.
The fact that he prepped up quickly means that Kristen stopped him.
Why?
Well, because this is their FIRST (and ONLY) dalliance. No woman would allow a man to go south in a car in broad daylight. Remember your first date? When you kissed on your first date, even if it's in the car, wouldn't you have stopped your date if he had suddenly reached for your crotch? You would too right? LOL! Stuff like that, you only indulge after thorough bathroom preparation especially with someone you've never slept before. Which bring me again to the point why I believe this is a one time thing. They've clearly NEVER had sex, because he was not allowed to explore her southern pearl.
There’s nothing like an unsolved mystery to keep you up at night.
Bella Swan, Twilight, Chapter 14, p.287
@torrimarie
I'm so glad to know that you guys were thinking of the same thing as I was. I thought I was a bit cookoo with my thoughts but it appears we all analyzed this thing the same way.
Oh my gosh!
Rogue, you are giving me quite the education tonight. I've never heard of the promised land as the southern pearl.
I'm learning about balls and bikes and now this.
Seriusly, is it really so important whether this was a one time thing. It's like being partly pregnant, cheating is cheating.
That is such a digusting thing for someone to do.
What a huge betrayal towards someone who trusted you enough to meet you without fear.
Do you think that maybe Kristen had a harmless crush on him like happens a lot of times when people work closely together, a simple crush, never intending to do anything about it, and Rupert knew this and used that as a way to put her in this postion?
So disgusting.
@Liz
About Kristen delaying her confession to Rob, let me ask you, would you have been able to tell your bf immediately if you made out with your boss this afternoon? I know I wouldn't. I too would have second thoughts. I would probably need two weeks to consult all my sisters on what to do, take a vote, recount the votes if the results make me nervous, prepare a speech, memorize the speech, say that speech in front of the mirror repeatedly until I can master the right expression of remorse. Kristen had barely 3 days from the 17th (I'm removing the day they went to Bobby Long concert because there's no way she can confess in front of Bobby, and also the day of the TCAs). In those three days, she probably went to her mom to consult, and her mom probably told her to come clean, which probably scared the shit out of her. So she went golfing with her dad and probably consulted him in the vaguest possible way she could. By the 22rd, Sunday, Ruth was on her ass and she had no choice but to fess up.
It happened so fast. She probably felt guilty that night already. Remember that Kris has no sisters to run to unlike most of us. Who can she tell it to? She has no sister to unconditionally take her side on the matter. Please, I know this. When I consult my sisters about a problem I created, they always go for the solution, there's no blame. It's the blood connection. It's not the same when you're consulting your girlfriends, because they live in different families with different beliefs and so blame might happen first.
As this is a compassion thread, this is where I think I feel most compassionate for Kristen. I honesty truly believe that if she had at least a week without the fear of public exposure, she would have been able to tell Rob.
Let's try this again with the you tube link. Sappy love song for hope that their love will be ok
Second hand Serenade
"Your Call"
Waiting for your call, I'm sick, call I'm angry
Call I'm desperate for your voice
Listening to the song we used to sing
In the car, do you remember
Butterfly, Early Summer
It's playing on repeat, Just like when we would meet
Like when we would meet
Cause I was born to tell you I love you
And I am torn to do what I have to, to make you mine
Stay with me tonight
Stripped and pollished, I am new, I am fresh
I am feeling so ambitious, you and me, flesh to flesh
Cause every breath that you will take
When you are sitting next to me
Will bring life into my deepest hopes, What's your fantasy?
(What's your, what's your...)
Cause I was born to tell you I love you
And I am torn to do what I have to, to make you mine
Stay with me tonight
And I'm tired of being all alone, and this solitary moment makes me want to come back home
[X4]
(I know everything you wanted isn't anything you have)
Cause I was born to tell you I love you
And I am torn to do what I have to, to make you mine
Stay with me tonight
Cause I was born to tell you I love you
And I am torn to do what I have to, to make you mine
Stay with me tonight
(I know everything you wanted isn't anything you have)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rgInHvW8Ic
@luckystrike87
I think we all agree that Kristen cheated. Because to us, kissing is cheating too. That's why I called it dalliance.
But,
If your bf fessed up to you and he told you that he got lost in the moment and kissed this girl, what's the first thing you ask him?
That's right.
Was it really just a kiss or was there penetration?
Because for me, penetration is a deal breaker. I wouldn't analyze those photos at all if there was penetration of any kind. Let me say that again, if there was "penetration of any kind", it's the end of discussion.
@torrimarie
I don't want to name call and call Rupert Sanders a pig. But he is.
@torrimarie
I don't want to name call and call Rupert Sanders a pig. But he is.
@Rogue, the good thing about sisters they'll yell at you for messing up, tell you how to handle it and then stand there by your side of you need them to, holding your hand as you face a scary situation. I can't imagine not having my older sisters to go to. Brothers are great but it's not the same. Brothers will fight someone for you, a sister will fight someone with you.
@Rogue, shame on you calling Rupert a pig! That's an insult to the PIG
Rupert Sanders is a pig. And whether or not Kristen and Rupert had sex, I doubt we'll ever know. Maybe they did at some point and Kristen confessed to Rob during their "talk", and that's why he moved out. Like you said though, kissing IS cheating, and those pics of RS and Kristen, she looks too happy for my liking. I wish she would've just walked away and then none of this would be happening now. I know, wishful thinking. Please keep all the thoughts coming. It's kind of therapeutic. xo
Torimarie,
That was a really good way to describe family. I'm going to remember it.
Rogue,
If my boyfriend kissed someone else my first question would be Why? I would think there was something wrong with me. Why was he attracted to someone else? Has he done it before? Who initiated it? I'd have a million questions before I'd get to the penetration.
This is Rose's board and it's not my place to tell anyone what they can and can't discuss, but I've become uncomfortable with speculating about what may or may not have happened and why -especially on a public board. I know we are all confused and want to understand but the truth is we never will. Some things you just have to let go of and give people the benefit of the doubt.
I may be the only person that feels this way, but just wanted to put it out there for consideration. Hope nobody is offended because that is not my intent. :)
Gosh, I'm sorry. I didn't know we were talking about anything bad. We were just playing around with different scenarios and trying to figure out how Rupert maneuvered this whole thing.
Dottie - I feel the exact same way and was just about to comment to the same effect.
I know that people are well intended and hoping to find something that helps make sense of this, but perhaps it would be best taken to e-mail rather than a public board.
I mean no disrespect, but do share Dottie's feelings and discomfort.
it's called beating a dead horse...
You're right Dottie, I'm sorry too, I can't speak for anyone else but I am having such a hard time believing that Kristen would deliberately hurt Rob in anyway that I might be grasping at straws, didn't mean to make you feel uncomfortable.
Oh please don't apologize! I wasn't scolding you. It just makes me uncomfortable that's all. Like I said I might be the only person who feels this way. I guess I just think how I would feel if it were me. I can tell you all care so much and don't mean any harm.
@torrimarie
LOL!
Oh my god, I would like to make a public apology to all pigs of all breeds for the insult sustained by comparison to Rupert Sanders.
I'm kind of uncomfortable putting my email on here. I guess I could open it up on my lj acct. I don't know any of you so I thought this is how you discuss things.
Male gymnastics on - so amazed
Thanks Rogue, it felt good to laugh for a few seconds.
Here's a portoin of Rose's
Love HURTS.....
Yes.
I'm disappointed too.
Obviously I care about Rob and Kristen.
I would never in a million years imagine something like this
happening between two people that were so in love.
And whether you believe it or not...
They still love each other.
Whether they go forward together or not
isn't up to you... or me.
Rob and Kristen need to figure this out.
I only wish they could do so with some measure of privacy.
All the conspiracy theories and rationalizations
aren't going to change what happened.
All the continuous hatred and bitterness
doesn't serve any purpose other than to
prolong the unhappiness and sadness.
We all are hurting in some way...
And I understand the feeling of protection over Rob.
The thought of him in so much pain... kills me.
But the truth of the matter is
What Kristen did has nothing to do with us.
Yes.
We can question why
We can be sad
We can be disappointed and angry.
But where do you stop and let it go?
When do you realize that hating her isn't going to change anything?
Because in truth...
All this turbulent emotion is more about us
intruding on their relationship.
Pushing ourselves in... where we never belonged in the first place.
This isn't ours to deal with.
This isn't really even our pain to feel.
I know we all do... I do, too...
But we need to back off now...
We need to let them heal and figure this out
We finally need to leave them alone...
and quit asking for things we have no right to ask for.
We don't have a right to know the intimate details.
We never did.
@Boogie
Sent you an email.
Luckystrike,
You certainly don't need to stopping posting here, but perhaps it would be best not to discuss the details of the pictures and speculate about what happened between Kristen and the sleezebag preditor.
Just a suggestion. That's the nature of discussion that I'm uncomfortable with. Again I mean no offense.
Can't believe Phelps didn't even medal
Go Team... Swim team on.. ladies first.. Let's see if MP gets the Gold
@luckystrike87
Your line of questioning shows your maturity and calmness. I'm a freak and I guess it already shows in my posts. I didn't mean to freak you guys out.
I'm such a freak that if my bf fessed up to me that he kissed someone, my first question would be "up to where?"
I know. But I just learned something from you today. So thank you.
but was thrilled to see the US women's volleyball team advance and glad is was his teammate that won if not Phelps. I am waiting for women's swimming too
Howdy Dk... thanks going to check.. turned that option on silent my phone was going crazy....
@Dottie
Been thinking along the same lines. What more needs to be questioned on the blog?
The whole world is watching and it's not always through rose colored glasses. Do we want to cause more harm or embarrassment to them or any to ourselves? Nah.
@ROSE
Give us a holler with your wishes!
I agree with Dottie too. Rob and Kristen are living this now. At some point we have to stop...
Hi Rogue, Boogie, torrimarie, Luckystrike, Freddie, Ginger and anyone I missed :)
Hi DK <3
Rogue,
I don't think you're a freak. Maybe you just have a better sense of humor than I do. I would always find myself lacking first in a situation like that. I think that's why I was so angry with Kristen at first and thought she was the worst person in the world because I thought Rob would be feeling all those things that I just mentioned and that's not fair.I feel so bad for him that this happened to him when everything seemed to be going so well in his life. I don't mean pity because that's awful too, just bad like I'd like to give him a hug. Silly right.
Hi Rhonda!
@luckystrike87
I was very angry too. The first pictures hit me like a ton a bricks, and if that's not enough, 49 more came. I needed an outlet for my anger so I sequenced the pictures and analyzed. LOL! I know. Such a loser, right? LOL! I guess I over-analyzed. Well, it's nice talking to all of you. I'm so much calmer now.
Group therapy always works! LOL!
@Dottie
Ding dong, email on its way!
@Boogie
You, too!
This is fun, confidential messaging!
@Rhonda
<33 but no email right now for you.
@angelica1
You and me, and the angels. Oh, and maybe others? I have another story for later.
Again, I'm sorry if anyone felt uncomfortable by our conversation. It was inconsiderate. I guess I am a freak too, I have spent the entire day trying to find any proof or explanation on what happened, and got carried away.
It was nice talking to you Rogue, I think you're right aboug group therapy. I do feel better.
I think I will go interupt my husband's studying, although how drinking beer in the living room can thought of as studying is beyond me.
Dottie - I agree, the endless debating and scrutinising is just drawing more attention to a heartbreaking situation and it's the last thing Rob and Kristen need at the moment
can't decide swimmer butts or?
Hey, Freddie, Ginger, Lucky, Rogue, torriM! Peace be with us all.
@GWS
Nice tunes, good work partner.
I'm sorry too if you all thought I was inappropriate. Rogue had intersting theories and I thought that's what you guys liked to talk about.
Rogue,
Thanks, you helped me out too.
No ..losers ....ladies... just it's a done deal...
Hi Angelica :)
Hi Dreamerkind!
To everyone, thank you for the therapy. Again, I didn't mean to freak you guys out. I promise I will never make a video where I'm crying with my analysis. LOL! Thanks for the theraputic talk.
Luckystrike- no worries ;)
feel free to chat just not so descriptive.. ples & txs... we understand.. just try ... to let go...we'll never know... really I don't want the details....
I am speaking for myself... It just very painful and it will never make sense....
@luckystrike87
We're more like chit chatterers who do draw big black lines as boundaries, where Rob & Kristen are involved. Loyalists, in our own special ways.
Brit ways do rub off, thanks Olympics.
Rogue- lol we might like a video ;)
@Boogie
Your great at dj-ing also!
OK this may be the best thing I've read in days (in addition to Rose's last.) It was written by our very own Twihusband (Rick)& I hope he won't mind me sharing. Hopefully lots of people read it, especially those who might desperately need it. *It's a long one and will be in 2 parts, but worth the read.
"Okay, it’s been five days since the world figuratively crashed down around us. We are lost. Adrift in a nondescript blank gray landscape, with all familiar landmarks erased. The fandom is meeting this EXACTLY like a death in the family. My own mother’s death is still fresh enough for me to recognize it. And people are coping in as many different ways as there are fans. Boy are we an over-invested bunch, or aren’t we? You know what? Fuck it. I realized this morning that I’ve been, to some degree, ashamed of the fact all along, that I love Twilight, and far beyond that I love those two crazy, talented, bright kids who made it live for us. Fuck it. No more. I loved Twilight. I loved Robert Pattison. I loved Kristen Stewart. I’m a 55 year old man, who can be such a dreamy romantic that sometimes it makes my wife crazy. And do you know what? I still love Twilight. I still love Robert Pattinson. And yes, I still love Kristen Stewart.
Here’s why. And forgive me here. We’re all acting like she betrayed us personally, when the sad and simple fact is that we’re doing it again. We’re intruding. We can’t help it. It’s who we are, who they are, and what we are to each other. They are the celebs, and we are the fans. It’s the nature of things. However, perhaps it’s time to take conscious control of it. To ride IT, instead of letting it ride US. It is in that frame of mind that I write to you today my sisters and my brother unicorns. (sad smile)
Back on Tuesday, the overwhelming emotion in my heart, aside from anger, was embarrassment. I felt like a fool. Kristen betrayed Robert, but that also meant that she’d FOOLED us. All of us. As my wife said, as the pictures emerged; “Of all people, never in a thousand years would I have believed that she could do that. Never.”
Now, four days later, I’ve come to a conclusion. Here it is. She couldn’t, but she did. But she couldn’t. Yes, the pictures are right fucking there in all of their hideous glory. She did, but she couldn’t. The enchanting gamine woman/child that we first met almost half a decade ago could not do this. The well-grown beautiful woman, whose eyes twinkled and glowed when she looked at Robert only a week before, WOULD NOT do this. I may be a romantic fan boy, and you may think I’ve got the biggest case of denial in the history of wronged fans, but I am NOT that kind of fool. I am NOT that stupid. Under the right circumstances I’m the most cynical fucking hard case you ever met, and I’m telling you right now that, regardless of the absolutely damning evidence, it doesn’t add up.
*Looks like it's a 3 parter!
To quote Arthur Conan Doyle, “Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.” And Kristen betraying Robert of her own free will is 100% impossible, therefore there’s some X factor that we aren’t aware of operating here. Drugs. Chemical imbalance. Sanders slipped her a roofie. For all I know she was under a fucking Imperius Curse. Whatever is going on, whatever happened, I know this in my heart and soul, I know this in my bones, the Kristen in those photos was NOT in full possession of herself. If she were, it wouldn’t have happened. In full possession of herself, she would NOT betray Robert like that. If she were truly that dissatisfied with Rob, she’d have broken up with him, cried her tears, and moved the hell on. She would not have tried to “better deal” him…as if that greasy slime ball could be a better deal.
And that’s another thing. I mean, for the love of God…Rupert Sanders? That paunchy, unattractive, greasy, fumbling, bumbling nebbish? That alone tells me that she was not in full possession of herself.
I have no clue what led to this, or what’s fueling this tragedy in progress. But I know one thing to the depths of my sappy fan boy heart. Kristen does not need our hate right now. Wherever she is, her soul and heart are in a very dark place, and she’s being punished far more brutally by her own conscience than anything we could possibly mete out to her. Remember who the REAL villain is here. So far he’s gone virtually untouched, at least in my line of sight. And stop tearing at each other. We are friends, acquaintances, and sisters, and brothers. Each and every one of us has a right to his or her feelings in this dark time. Even those of you who think I’m just another vacuous shipper are entitled to think so. That doesn’t mean I won’t go back to arguing with you up and down my time line once the current crisis is done, but for now…PAX. Just love them and support them. I know she did a wrong thing. However we don’t know the whole story, we may never know the whole story, and I swear to you that was NOT HER. That may have been her body, but the girl we’ve come to love and respect the last four years was not in charge of it. I would swear it to you on my own blood.
Time now to do the real fan boy thing. I need talk to some people. Think of this as a prayer if you must. Cast into the aether in hopes that it will find its way to where it’s needed. If you aren’t as sappy as me, then avert your fucking eyes. Because, being vastly ashamed of myself for the way I’ve carried on, I need to talk.
Kristen? Well, pretty girl, we are in something of a pickle. We fans like to imagine ourselves as your friend and confidant, while knowing damn good and well that you and Rob are utterly beyond our experience. So be it. But I have eyes and I have a heart. I don’t know what was going on, but I DO know you’d rather die than hurt him the way that you did. Have heart, dear girl. I can feel it in my gut that all is not lost. As long as you don’t do anything rash or irrevocable, there’s still hope. Be good, listen to the right people, take time to heal, and when you’re ready, come back to us.
Robert? Well, mi hijo, you’re in a tough place right now. Kind of like I imagine “the change” is in the Saga. Burning up from the inside out? I’ve been there. Yours is worse. Mine was a girlfriend whom I could get over (in 20 years or so), yours is the other half of your soul. I’ll give you the same advice I gave Kristen. Don’t. Don’t do anything rash or irrevocable. Come home. Wherever you are, come home, take your girl, and disappear for a while. Even if you can’t make it work again, like it was, any healing either of you do will still have to be begun TOGETHER. Come home, face the dragon, and turn it’s ass into some nice luggage. That’s what we’re for, you know; us men; the decent ones that is; to slay dragons for them because we love them. Slay the dragon of your anger and grief, and come home.
@Boogie
Those repeat Twilight quotes and new ones you post are quite capturing my thoughts, too. Very well chosen, MJ.
So, here we are, at a turning point. Where we go from here rests on many things, but mostly with us. I’m staying. I will fight for them, love them, and support them, just like I always have. Both of them. I would rather plunge a knife into my own beating heart than see them in the state that they are now. And I’ve never felt so helpless and yet so empowered in my life.
Robsten may be gone, and rightly so, because that was a tacky burden that we should never have placed on them, but Robert and Kristen are still here. Keep the faith my brothers and sisters."
Thank you TwiHusband! You rock!!!
@Dottie
Isn't that written by Rick (Twi Husband)? Read it earlier on Twitter. He is all heart and very fatherly towards R/K.
Ah, it is!
DK - had lots of time to look up songs - my ex was over to see the kids - headphones and music are great therapy and I way to drown out the idle noise.
Oddly I found this quote you might appreciate
''When you're happy, you enjoy the music but when you're sad, you understand the lyrics.'' - Frank Ocean
@Ginger
So true and sometimes I feel like a sad song..
Ginger- awww, nice quote :)
Dottie - that was fabulous. Thanks for bringing this over. Rick is a very special guy. His wife is lucky!!
I wish more than anything Rob would see it.
clapping hand with a tear in the conner of my eye..thanks Dottie
for sharing...awesome! love a dragon slayer...
@ DK thank you my friend of many moons & tunes...I can't shake the fishy or the rat smell
my favorite word is Holywerid... as it's been said ain't up to me or us ...
Hey to DK, Rhonda, Ginger, Angelica, and Boogie - who have come in since I last posted.
Rogue, torrimarie and luckystrike - I sure hope you keeping posting.
wit and wisdom good combo..
Rob a smart lad..
@Freddie hello
@ GWS good quote
@Freddie
Rob just might see it for it's been retweeted and copied all over the place.
@Dottie
Yes, thanks, didn't think to share it when I read it, too silly earlier today. Rick is close to my age, and alas, already taken by some lovely ladywife.
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