What am I supposed to say?
There is so much anger out there right now.
So much hatred.
Yes.
I'm disappointed too.
Obviously I care about Rob and Kristen.
I would never in a million years imagine something like this
happening between two people that were so in love.
And whether you believe it or not...
They still love each other.
Whether they go forward together or not
isn't up to you... or me.
Rob and Kristen need to figure this out.
I only wish they could do so with some measure of privacy.
All the conspiracy theories and rationalizations
aren't going to change what happened.
All the continuous hatred and bitterness
doesn't serve any purpose other than to
prolong the unhappiness and sadness.
We all are hurting in some way...
And I understand the feeling of protection over Rob.
The thought of him in so much pain... kills me.
But the truth of the matter is
What Kristen did has nothing to do with us.
Yes.
We can question why
We can be sad
We can be disappointed and angry.
But where do you stop and let it go?
When do you realize that hating her isn't going to change anything?
Because in truth...
All this turbulent emotion is more about us
intruding on their relationship.
Pushing ourselves in... where we never belonged in the first place.
This isn't ours to deal with.
This isn't really even our pain to feel.
I know we all do... I do, too...
But we need to back off now...
We need to let them heal and figure this out
We finally need to leave them alone...
and quit asking for things we have no right to ask for.
We don't have a right to know the intimate details.
We never did.
Final thought.
My father... who is one of the most intelligent and witty men I know...
but completely clueless when it come to
'entertainment' news...
Actually said to me yesterday
"So I was reading the paper and saw that there
is big trouble in vampire land"
Yes.
He said VAMPIRE LAND.
I just looked at him... shocked.
I finally replied...
"Yeah, Dad... Vampire land is kinda sad right now"
He looked at me and said
"I feel sorry for those 2 kids. I can't imagine having to
deal with that heartbreak in the public eye."
Compassion.
My father has it.
And he knows nothing about Rob and Kristen
beyond what he has read in the paper.
I know some of you are so angry at Kristen
and want to call her names and hate on her.
But try to look at her...
as she is.
Strip away the fame and fortune...
Take away who her boyfriend is.
Look at her.
She is just a girl.
Who made a terrible mistake.
A horrible choice.
Yes... she hurt some people
And she has to live with that.
She has to make amends.
But she is hurting too.
If you saw her on the street...
Desperate and crying... hurt
Wouldn't you stop and try to help her?
Wouldn't you be scared and worried for her?
Or would you just scoff and say she deserves her pain?
Would you spit on her as you walked away?
Personally?
I would help her.
I want her to be OK.
I want her to be OK.
I couldn't just turn my back and walk away.
And that's where I am right now.
This post is brought to you by compassion.
I hope some of you find some.
If you are without sin... cast that stone.
.........
(waiting)
..........
Thought so.
Until next time
(and there will be a next time.)
Bye for now
P.S.
I still adore Tom Sturridge.
A bright shiny star
in this dark dark night...
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For those rat and fishy smells: a lavender soaking lasting 2 hours, my sweet, is a treatment.
@ Dottie....your words to Robert and Kristen are SO true. Made me cry. I don't want them to be apart forever. I want LOVE to prevail. I want there to be acceptance and forgiveness. I wish he could just take her and disappear for a while so they can start healing. xo
@Rogue,you're right,him and his coworkers also think that if this were an ongoing affair,why are they meeting in a public place not indoors.It just doesn't make any sense.Here's another observation they have,before SWATH,they never heard about his wife, all they heard was that she's a socialite/actor/model,and now she's known.It seems she knows what he's intentions with Kristen.
I'm out. Have a good night, ladies
TTYL :)
fantastic idea all that swimming on TV a good soak.. I've been on here all day..... can't stay focused on house cleaning and company is comming..yikes..
Hi Gang,
Who's here?
waving the royal wave good nite..
may you have sweet dreams ..
@luckystrike87,holy sh@t,you're so funny about the balls when riding a bike.LOL.
*I* Believe hello and sorry been here off and on all day..
lots of the regs are here
saying good nite
"Nobody knows the trouble I've seen, nobody knows my story."
Great lyrics of a spiritual song.
@Holy
We've discussed not giving any more attention to the RK situation theories here.
Majority of us aren't comfortable with it. Want to stay and play with us?
Waving back at ya Boogie
Rogue,
Your theory has some problems. This was not the first time they were together, it was reported already that this was going on for weeks. Rumour is that more pics are coming out in the next few days proving that this was not the first time and that this was going on, at least, since May. Did you read the article? She was on her way back to the house she shared with Rob in Los Feliz, she received a call, abruptly turned around and headed to the west side of the town where she met that asshole in the back lot of a deserted building (back lot of a deserted building. She knew for what she was going). They made out in the car and "he was kissing her entire body". We can see that in the pictures. The pics by the fence were taken after, according to the article. If this is all true, it's obvious that she knew perfectly what she was doing and that this had happened before. The level of intimacy shows that they were familiar with each other. If this is all true, it's obvious that this was not just a "momentary indiscretion" and that they were having an affair. And I think it's hard to believe that there was no sex involved at some point, to be honest. If this is all true, she was not completely honest in her public apology, which is a shame (one more...).
I understand people's need to rationalize her behavior, but that doesn't change the fact that she cheated on her long time boyfriend with a married man. We can assume many things but the truth is that we don't really know why and how it happened and probably never will.
I don't understand why she did it, but I did note changes in her behavior in the last few months. People say that she became more confident, I felt that she became more arrogant. Maybe she did start to believe all the hype about herself. She had some really immature attitudes in the last few months.
This is just my opinion, but I feel that she wasn't ready to be in a committed relationship and was willing to have new experiences. She IS very young and jumped from one long relationship to another without having time for herself. Of course that doesn't excuse her behavior in any way.
I think it's time for people to start dealing with the possibility of them not being together ever again. He has a lot to forgive, she screwed it big time and... maybe she doesn't want to be with him anymore? She did betray him which means that she wasn't completely happy with what she had... Of course I suspect that she is going to regret it hard eventually, if she hasn't already. Love like that is not easy to find...
Right now I'm really worried with her safety. I hate what she did, but yes Rose, I would help her too. The hatred toward her is insane and unbelievable. People are vindictive and many of his fans are really pissed off. I fear for her. And with all the pressure she's facing, I'm worried with what she can do to herself too.
Unfortunately, I think that the only person who could really "save" her and help her with her public image is the only person that, for obvious reasons, can't... and that is Rob.
I'm worried with Rob too, of course, this must be really horrible for him. He didn't deserve this. But people are taking sides and he has everyone's support... Kristen has everyone against her.
Kathy, I can't take credit for those words. It was written by our friend TwiHusband. He's awesome!
Oh man, I have to change my avi...
:(
Night Rhonda.
Hi IB - I'm multi-tasking so I'm partially here.
@Rhonda
Nite, dear one.
@Boogie
I curtsy to you, my Queen.
@IB
It's me (waving)
Holy,
Thank you, glad I made you laugh. I admit I was laughing quite a bit when I found out. Asked him why he was standing up and that's when he told me.
Again, sorry for upsetting you all, it just fascinated me so much to hear Rogue talk about her knowledge of Hollywood.
Probably one of the best make up songs ever
Buckcherry
"Sorry"
Oh I had a lot to say was thinking on my time away
I missed you and things weren't the same
[Pre-Chorus:]
Cause everything inside it never comes out right
And when I see you cry it makes me want to die
[Chorus:]
I'm sorry I'm bad, I'm sorry you're blue, I'm sorry about all things I said to you
And I know I can't take it back
I love how you kiss, I love all your sounds, and baby the way you make my world go round
And I just wanted to say I'm sorry:
This time I think I'm to blame it's harder to get through the days
You get older and blame turns to shame
[Pre-Chorus]
[Chorus]
Every single day I think about how we came all this way
The sleepless nights and the tears you cried it's never too late to make it right
Oh yeah sorry!
[Chorus]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77pb0WXAz-Q
Hi Dottie, DK, Jo, Lucky and Freddie!
From reading all of the comments, I am not sure what to say....hmmm.
@Jo
No more RK theories here on the blog por favor, cause we're waiting for the facts or nada, since it's not our life after all, its theirs.
We feel uncomfortable with it. Anything else, in an uplifting vein or downright funny, that would be lovely. :)
"It was fascination I know, but it should have ended right there at the start."
Another oldie lyric that fits.
Hi IB!
I'm going to scoot now.
DK, hold down the fort! ;)
@Ginger
Listening to "Sorry" right now.
@Dottie
I'll have to get a moat dug!
Rest well.
@ Jo....I agree that maybe she just doesn't want to be with him anymore. We don't know what goes on behind closed doors. I've said before that in the past, Rob has mentioned marriage and kids, and Kristen, not so much. I think they do have SO much in common, but I don't thing it's going to be enough if they don't want the same thing in the long run. It's all SO sad. They really seemed like "soulmates". xo
I am disappointed that the "regulars" on this blog can decide what can and can't be posted here. I've been coming here for a couple of years and have always felt that everyone was welcome, except for the haters, of course.
Right now, all of us are wondering and would love to have facts but don't believe anything factual will be forthcoming for a long time, if ever.
I thought Rose encouraged everyone to comment here, whether theories or what, doesn't matter because we're ALL thinking about the same thing, Rob & Kristen, Kristen & Rob, Rob alone, Kristen alone ... and on and on...
If commenting here and being "heard" makes someone feel better, what's the harm?
Let's all be kind and love one another and pray for "our kids" to find peace in this mess.
@ROSE
@ROSE
@ROSE
@ROSE
It's the old Syd trick to get your attention. You have an email!
@ROSE
It's the old Syd trick to get your attention. You have an email!
Nite Dottie..thanks for posting Rick's thoughts.
@DreamerKind
Fair enough.
I just think that trying to find excuses for her behavior doesn't help her or the whole situation.
What is done is done. I'm seeing it as it is. And even seeing it as it is, I would still help her.
@Dottie,you made me cry.
Sorry guys if I offended you.And thanks for all the DJ's again.
@LIZ
All are welcome, as you know. It was getting real "penetrating" and graphic, shaking up the joint.
Rogue, after considering your
theories about Sanders and Kristen,
the word "conspiracy" came to mind.
Wikipedia has this to say:
"...The term is frequently used by scholars and in popular culture to identify secret military, banking, or political actions aimed at "stealing" power, money, or freedom, from "the people"..."
As old and unsuccessful as he is, perhaps blackmailing Kristen to destroy her relationship with Rob would give him power over her and her moneymaking abilities.
God help us all.
@Jo~So sorry that you have to change your avi :(
@LIZ
Most of us just want to calm down and process and be respectful like always.
I wrote Rose for her take, it's her blog, and wishes in the end.
@Jo
That's how we can help ourselves the most which helps RK. Very kind of you.
@Holy
No one was offended I don't think. (Anyone?)
It was very sad to see the moving van leaving their home. Is hopelessness part of the grieving process? That's how I'm feeling.
@LIZ
I'd like to share my thoughts with you a bit more, if you'll email me? Click my name, and voila, there it is.
Following Rose's lead calling for compassion, etc.
Another - they are really mellow and Rob Thomas's voice is heaven
"If You're Gone"
I think I've already lost you
I think you're already gone
I think I'm finally scared now
And you think I'm weak, I think you're wrong
I think you're already leaving
Feels like your hand is on the door
I thought this place was an empire
And now I'm relaxed and I can't be sure
But I think you're so mean, I think we should try
I think I could need this in my life
And I think I'm scared, I think too much
I know it's wrong, it's a problem I'm dealing
If you're gone maybe it's time to come home
There's an awful lot of breathing room but I can hardly move
And if you're gone, baby, you need to come home
'Cause there's a little bit of something me in everything in you
I bet you're hard to get over
I bet the room just won't shine
I bet my hands I can stay here
I bet you need more than you mind
And I think you're so mean, I think we should try
I think I could need this in my life
And I think I'm scared that I know too much
I can't relate and that's a problem I'm feeling
If you're gone maybe it's time to come home
There's an awful lot of breathing room but I can hardly move
If you're gone, baby, you need to come home
There's a little bit of something me in everything in you
I think you're so mean, I think we should try
I think I could need this in my life
And I think I'm scared, do I talk too much
I know it's wrong, it's a problem I'm dealing
If you're gone maybe it's time to come home
There's an awful lot of breathing room but I can hardly move
And if you're gone, yeah, baby, you need to come home
There's a little bit of something me in everything in you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clKAdQnwJ7A
@IB
Heartbreaking but we don't know what was in it, maybe old smelly socks and such.
@IB
There may be less hope, yet there is hope. 50=50. Fair odds.
I think no matter what they decide there is no way they can stay in their house with paps intruding on them like a pack of wolves (Secretly I wish I had the guts to get a video camera and would start following them taking pictures of every step they made and their families to see if they liked that crap - god I dislike paps). Also a picture is just a picture - there is no way to know what is going on and it is funny they got 2 pictures and that is it with how many of them are camped out there. Pictures can make a few very fleeting minutes look like hours, often you cannot tell when they were taken or certain ones admitted to attempt to tell the story you are telling. Hell I have pictures on my Facebook that whenever we take photo's at work I am always next to one co-worker for whatever reason (his real GF works with us) but if you saw them (cause the amount) you could easily assume we were dating.
@IB
It will be a while for our hearts to beat in rhythm again. Huge change of our cyber reality. (Hugs)
@Ginger
Let's go get 'em, cams in hand! Definitely, pics appear to alter reality. Like our car mirrors are marked, "objects are closer than they appear."
Dear DK....our wise FGM
@IB
How's your weather in NY? No droughts I hope.
No, no drought. Our rain total was down but it rained yesterday and today so the grass is green again. It is warm and muggy.
@Ginger
And pics make my face look younger (digital ones)but jowls bigger, and body like someone else's (you can imagine).
lol - I have always looked younger than I should (I thank my mom for good gene's everyday) but I always look angry in pictures (that could be real life to - I have that natural scowl face and top it with the red hair everyone always thinks I am mad. I just think pictures can be so very deceiving and never tell a whole story. I smile I really really do - now just to get it snapped once or twice - lol
@Ginger
Your coloring is vivid and I like your style.
Boy, I am getting really tired, and since you have posted such good music, I may take a break.
I am usually on what we used to call "the nightshift" here in Roseland anyway. Not often I poke my nose in during daytime. Truly more during this past week for to give and receive comfort.
Certainly, all will do as they do here, as I am and others, too.
Rose knows and will tell.
@Ginger
See you. :)
@IB
Better soon.
@ Ginger....I LOVE that song by Rob Thomas. I guarantee the next time I hear it, I'll be reminded of all THIS and I'll bawl my head off.
Its sunny here in Asia and hello to all.
First, Im so touched by Rick's writing. Wherever our dear Rob might be, really hope he is reading it. So as Kristen.
Second, I love Rob Thomas's song. Its perfect.
Third, I agree with the regulars in the Roseland. We need to stop making speculations or else it wouldnt help Rob and Kristen.We could only wish and pray for the best for them both. Whatever it might be.
Fourth, I hate the media and the press and all of their leagues. Not enough with crap articles and manipulation of situation, they also turn to us and write about us. The so called hysterical fans of Twilight or Robsten; to be more precise, they made fun of us in their articles and in some ways people might think that we are bunch of fools for overthinking on megastar who doesnt give a damn on us. But I know thats not the truth. Media just using us to their maximum advantages and we should stop this. Do not feed the media and the press with something interesting for them to write against Rob and Kristen.
Fifth, thank you again for doing this group theraphy. It helps me a lot. I'm going back to the courtroom tomorrow and I wish I have the zest as always to fight for justice. Eventhough I obviously cant fight for them both, but knowing that I can help others as well; most who suffered far gross situations that we can imagine, and that at least put a slight smile on my lips. Godspeed to us all and definitely for our beloved Rob and Kristen.
I am disappointed in Kristen, but I would still help her. Does her comments about being bored with her life (which would be exciting to the rest of us) not sound familiar? Britney Spears, anyone? I think she needs to step back from Hollywood and ground herself because she has definitely acted out of character. I've taked a look back at pictures of the last several months and those of her and Mr. Sanders look awfully condemning. She kinda is behaving toward RS like she did towards Rob at the beginning of the Twilight publicity. Th flirts (and him handsy) at their SWATH promos in mid-may through the end of Jun. So maybe it was just heavy flirting then the make-out, maybe more? We don't know and we won't unless someone writes a tell-all. For Rob and Kristen's sake I hope they don't. I will continue to support them. As for Rupert Sanders. No thanks. I think he called in the Paps and is getting famous off of Kristen and Rob's personal pain.
I hope they can move past this. Real and abiding love can. I told this to another website that had a lot of people wanting Rob to get rid of Kristen:
I still want to believe that their love is the real thing and they can work through this. My husband and I have been together since we were 16 and married at 19. We're now 40. I made the huge mistake of having a very brief affair when I was 26. It wasn't because I didn't love my husband or that he was bad in bed (he was and still is the best lover I've ever had). I felt emotionally smothered by him and frustrated that I repeatedly told him what I needed and he ignored me (not saying that was his fault or that it was or is a valid excuse). It was stupid and selfish, I was sick at myself (I couldn't eat for weeks), and I wished I could take it back (I still do). We worked through it because we can't see our lives with out each other in it. The trust is back. Our communication skills are better. I would kill myself before I would ever put us through that again, before I would ever see the pain in his eyes. He had nightmares about me killing him for months. It was devastating. Couples CAN get back what they had and yes, it took us several years. If the love is true and meant to be though, it will happen. We each know this and respect this is the most important thing we need to nurture and cherish (along with our children) because we know what if felt like to almost lose it.
I don't recommend time away from each other because you need each other's support, but I do heavily recommend counseling (separately and together). It is also important that she comes completely clean to him now that it is out.
She should have never stepped foot in that car again. That's like a slap in the face (per my husband). Set fire to it immediately.
Erin
@faa
Thank you for sharing yourself here with us these past few days. Please come back.
I'll be thinking of you in court tomorrow and remembering the many times I tagged along with the hubs to see the action, lol.
Here's a very comforting blogpost from a clinical psychologist and RK fan, @angelsslave on Twitter or Dr. Gill Larson:
Story Of The Head And The Heart
http://doidazzle-you.blogspot.com.au/2012/07/on-open-letter-to-everyone.html
"The Heart Of The Matter"
I got the call today, I didn't wanna hear
But I knew that it would come
An old true friend of ours was talkin' on the phone
She said you found someone
And I thought of all the bad luck,
And the struggles we went through
And how I lost me and you lost you
What are these voices outside love's open door
Make us throw off our contentment
And beg for something more?
I'm learning to live without you now
But I miss you sometimes
The more I know, the less I understand
All the things I thought I knew, I'm learning again
I've been tryin' to get down to the Heart of the Matter
But my will gets weak
And my thoughts seem to scatter
But I think it's about forgiveness
Forgiveness
Even if, even if you don't love me anymore
These times are so uncertain
There's a yearning undefined
...People filled with rage
We all need a little tenderness
How can love survive in such a graceless age
The trust and self-assurance that can lead to happiness
They're the very things we kill, I guess
Pride and competition cannot fill these empty arms
And the work I put between us,
Doesn't keep me warm
I'm learning to live without you now
But I miss you, Baby
The more I know, the less I understand
All the things I thought I figured out, I have to learn again
I've been tryin' to get down to the Heart of the Matter
But everything changes
And my friends seem to scatter
But I think it's about forgiveness
Forgiveness
Even if, even if you don't love me anymore
There are people in your life who've come and gone
They let you down and hurt your pride
Better put it all behind you; life goes on
You keep carrin' that anger, it'll eat you inside
I've been tryin' to get down to the Heart of the Matter
But my will gets weak
And my thoughts seem to scatter
But I think it's about forgiveness
Forgiveness
Even if, even if you don't love me anymore
I've been tryin' to get down to the Heart of the Matter
Because the flesh will get weak
And the ashes will scatter
So I'm thinkin' about forgiveness
Forgiveness
Even if, even if you don't love me anymore
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xezg3z5IE8I
I really love Rob and Kristen, like they are my own son and daughter.
This song is for everybody because I think right now, all we can do is pray for them because we really don't know the heart of the matter.
"The Heart Of The Matter"
I got the call today, I didn't wanna hear
But I knew that it would come
An old true friend of ours was talkin' on the phone
She said you found someone
And I thought of all the bad luck,
And the struggles we went through
And how I lost me and you lost you
What are these voices outside love's open door
Make us throw off our contentment
And beg for something more?
I'm learning to live without you now
But I miss you sometimes
The more I know, the less I understand
All the things I thought I knew, I'm learning again
I've been tryin' to get down to the Heart of the Matter
But my will gets weak
And my thoughts seem to scatter
But I think it's about forgiveness
Forgiveness
Even if, even if you don't love me anymore
These times are so uncertain
There's a yearning undefined
...People filled with rage
We all need a little tenderness
How can love survive in such a graceless age
The trust and self-assurance that can lead to happiness
They're the very things we kill, I guess
Pride and competition cannot fill these empty arms
And the work I put between us,
Doesn't keep me warm
I'm learning to live without you now
But I miss you, Baby
The more I know, the less I understand
All the things I thought I figured out, I have to learn again
I've been tryin' to get down to the Heart of the Matter
But everything changes
And my friends seem to scatter
But I think it's about forgiveness
Forgiveness
Even if, even if you don't love me anymore
There are people in your life who've come and gone
They let you down and hurt your pride
Better put it all behind you; life goes on
You keep carrin' that anger, it'll eat you inside
I've been tryin' to get down to the Heart of the Matter
But my will gets weak
And my thoughts seem to scatter
But I think it's about forgiveness
Forgiveness
Even if, even if you don't love me anymore
I've been tryin' to get down to the Heart of the Matter
Because the flesh will get weak
And the ashes will scatter
So I'm thinkin' about forgiveness
Forgiveness
Even if, even if you don't love me anymore
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xezg3z5IE8I
@Erin
So glad you moved through such difficult times and are happier. We all help the healing, of each other and ourselves, by sharing how we got through our lowest points.
That Mini has been sentenced to burning by most of the fandom. Poof!
@rxlady60
Playing it now, thanks for posting. May your day blossom.
i know this line of thinking will only drive us crazy but what was kristen thinking?
did she really think she could met up with a married man for weeks and hook up with him and not have her life go to shit?
i feel so genuinely bad for her, her life is now ruined.
she lost her boyfriend who she claims to love.
she lost her home.
she lost her dog, bear.
she probably lost several friends and lots possibly millions of fans.
she's being called a home wrecker/slut/tramp all over the world.
and for what? what possibly could she have to gain?
there was no future with this guy, she doesn't seem to be in love with him.
it would almost be better to me if she genuinely fell in love and couldn't help herself.
But to ruin her life(and others) for no discernible reason.
wow.
just wow.
I'm only a few years older but i'm learning a vital lesson from this.
an older married man at work was sporadically skyping me last week, nothing flirty but just overly friendly. i was responding more out of politeness than anything but i stopped cold turkey.
I hope she goes to therapy and figures out why she wants to self destruct. I'm beginning to suspect that she has some deep emotional problems.
@ DreamerKind,
Thanks to you too for being here for me and for all of us.
I'll definitely come back everytime that I can.
I only regret I didnt join you guys from the start, during those happier times. I was an anonymous all those times and I just do the reading.
As for now, I will write and keep on writing and treasure our unique cyber friendship of the Twilight Saga's fandom. It means a lot to me.
Thank you also for the suggestion of The Head & The Heart writing by Tempest. Appreciate it a lot.
Wishing you and all, a very good day tomorrow.
May tomorrow is better than yesterday..
I haven't come back to comment again, because I really don't have anything to add that hasn't already been said.
Someone posted this video, and no, I did not watch it because I think its one of those fan made vids and its probably sad.
However, when I clicked on the link & it started playing, Rob was talking. The first 28 seconds are of him talking about fighting through hard times in a relationship. I found what he said to be interesting and in light of recent events, may be somewhat enlightening to a point he may reach in the future after he has had some time to process and deal with this.
Here is the vid:
http://youtu.be/M5CHf-MqdOY
And like I said, I only watched Rob talking in the first 28 seconds, so if the rest of that video is total shit or something I have no idea! Lol
Both of their lives have been turned completely upside down. Kristen is impacted both professionally and personally. Emotions are still raw and so is the pain, hurt and confusion.
Things take time.
Whether or not they end up together and Rob gives her a second chance isn't anything any of us can predict or influence.
However, we do know they love each other and after watching what Rob said in that vid, I would be surprised if he didn't hear her out and talk things through after everything they have had together the past 4yrs.
Give them time. Time and distance can give them some perspective. When ready, I hope he reaches out to her and they go somewhere private and he hears her out and let's her apologize again and she answers his questions. I hope they talk through everything.
Only then can they move forward with a resolution to reconcile and make it work, or move forward with closure.
Just thought I'd share, because I really liked what he said and thought it was very wise. Of course, answering a question vs living that reality is very different. But, to me, he doesn't seem the type to just walk away after 4yrs of love without having a very open and honest talk about it with Kristen.
And she doesn't seem the type to stop fighting for him either. So I hope she is using this time to do a lot of soul searching so that when he is ready to communicate with her, she is ready to give him answers and show him how much she loves him.
Whatever happens, I'll still be here loving and supporting both of them.
Wow, it's reported that mrs. sanders has forgiven RS. That was fast. Though through some articles, it was reported that RS has done it quite a few times in the past. She called it "one of those silly flirtations".
Rose,
thank you for your love for Rob and Kristen. They are hurt, so do we. Hope time heals pain..
Groovie,
thanks for the youtube link. I cried so hard so bad after watching it. But thank you because it gives me hope that they can make it throught.
@bluetiffanyxoxo
Things like houses, can be held for some time and other important ones shared.
Nothing is lost that cannot be found again. No road ends, where love does not build another. The rest can be gained again.
Darling Liz Taylor with 9? husbands enjoyed great loves, survived tragedies, endured chronic pain, won an Oscar AFTER many scandals, and owned priceless jewels. She swore like a sailor, too!
Lordy, she was an inspiring woman!
@ Groovie...thanks for the link. It made me cry. Can't she tell how much he LOVES her? OMG. I cannot watch those videos anymore. They bring back SO many memories.
@ rxlady.... Heart of the Mattter....highly appropriate song too. LOVE it. I'm not enjoying listening to music lately because of this whole mess. EVERY song seems to pertain to R and K and their situation. I'm going to see Rod Stewart next Friday and I'm thinking 'how am I supposed to get through some of his love songs without thinking about R and K and without bawling my head off?' Hopefully my emotions will be in better shape by then. HOPEFULLY.
@Groovie
Watched that vid before and again now. That wasn't good acting-it was real, and to my mind it still is. I'm with you on being part of RK Roseland Love Squad. Bring back the 70's when love was all ya need.
@sam powell
I see that as good news for a marriage is saved and a family kept intact. There aren't any guarantees on any day we live. We do our best.
*My tank is on empty and tires deflating. This is one older model vehicle, that took a long road trip, in the backyard, going in circles.
Clunk!
Goodnight.
I have been a lurker for a long time but only now i felt the need the post... Rose, u r doing a wonderful job and please continue doing so... I enjoy reading all your posts....
Rgding the issue ...I feel its just been blown out of proportion... Whatever may be the case finally Rob and Kristen are in pain and i want them to work together to get together and move forward more stronger and flip the same papz ...
"It's reported that Mrs. Sanders has forgiven RS" It was reported that RS has done it quite a few times in the past. She called it "one of those silly flirtations".
WOW that was quick!
If my husband had one or many "silly flirtations" Let's just say he would have a hard time peeing in the coming months. I find it hard to believe this is all legit especially after that snow white image she posted on Instagram forty two years old married, young kids and still having "flirtations" I guess in Holly Wood anything goes especially morals.
This guy is a cheat and probably worried about his career with the Snow White franchise.
Rupert's wife forgave him? am I the only one who feels this is messed up? something is definitely wrong here. I just don't understand any of it. While I am glad for the children, this whole situation is so suspicious. I hope that Rob and Kristen are hiding somewhere talking and holding hands, working through this whole horrible horrible thing. The truth will come out.
And thank you Rose for allowing us to come to this safe haven and vent our feelings and support each other.
This is perfect! There's nothing I can say. Its just perfect.
Check Out Robert Pattinsons House:
http://alachamyobiken.blogspot.com/2011/08/robert-pattinson-house.html
JMF
I am highly skeptical and think that it is more internet BS. There is so much crap out there right now it is disgraceful.
Morning ladies and gents :)
I also have a hard time believing almost everything I read - to many people trying to make their buck on this even magazines that were thought to be respectable have become trash over night (I am sorry a poll if they stay together is tacky and something I would expect to be in a Teen Beat issue) . I also would not be surprised if she took him back - I am sorry she has been to quite and there has been next to no reporting on what those 2 are doing...the sole focus Kristen and Robert as an after thought.
DK posted a link to a story that talked about our heart and heads last night that was a very good read. I think I am going to go with my gut (yeah it can be wrong too) and say something is so wrong with the story we have been told but either way I believe it has been blow out of proportion and I also in my heart of hearts believe they will overcome this (this couple turns me into a girly girl) together. If they don't it is not my choice but I would rather think positive then negative. If you say everyday it is going to rain - eventually it will rain that is inevitable but why not just enjoy the sun while it is out. Why look for the bad things in this all to short life - lets face it- there are enough shitty things in our day to day life there is no need to add to it. Me I am going to think good thoughts, help DK DJ some awesome tunes, and remember I know more about this situation than I am already meant to know. You guys are awesome people and great therapy for sure
I am on a roll this morning - sorry
I also think the overwhelming speculation that it is "over" because the 2 picture of the U Haul it become the focus - blah. I have a hard time believing either would make such a permanent choice if you believe the same mag that they haven't even talked. I think as the days start to pan there will be more and more contradiction in these stories and now I am hoping karma not only on the paps but the people feeding and pushing the BS. Top story Friday night Rob moves out - They buried AJ the 18 yr old who died in the theater Friday - makes me sick on there "reporting". Ahh time to clean - catch you ladies later
Saw the term K-Ru this morning. Made me throw up.
Should be Poopert for he is a bag of shit!
Hugs for y'all this morning.
Thank you Dottie for passing along the beautiful and thoughtful post from Rick.
Groovie, the vid was very touching and emotional, thank you for giving us the link.
30, I almost fell off my chair, laughing, my cuppa in hand, as I read your comment about your hypothetical reaction and the resultant difficulty in "peeing". Well said. : )
May today be better than yesterday.
Hugs for Smitty, Gruff and Syd.
Am working half a day today. Will peek in this evening.
Hi Olivia! ;)
Sorry rant in coming -so yeah my 19 yr old just ran upstairs comes upstairs and says mom my new feed on my phone said another victim died - they changed the total to 13. After shifting through all the cheating stuff we read that the mom of the 6 yr old who had been shot was pregnant at the time of the shooting and had lost the baby. So now is she not paralyzed but has lost both of her children and is in still ICU but it took me forever to find the story that was reported 11 hours ago. Sorry for venting cause I feel partial ashamed right now for spending so much time on 2 peoples personal lives and not the real twisted crap we live in. Going to scrub the hell out of my kitchen as therapy :)
@Rogue, your theory gives me some new perspectives, which I understand may seem like wishful thinking to some. I have no life in the past few days either. I wish I also had an analytical mind like you and the courage to look at the pics into their every details.
@Dottie, thx for sharing Rick's thoughts. I am so moved by his firm belief of the good in Kristen's true self. What distrubs me most is that many people claim Kristen had been faking all along to lead them believe the good person they think she is.
@Unknown, you see flirts between Kristen and the pig in SWATH promotions? Are u serious? I've seen vids and pics of promo tours and I see none of that. I understand people are so sad that they tend to imagine the worst of Kristen. Well it's really unfair IMO. :(
Monica from Asia
Just to say hello, as nice as it is to se so many people here by the time I've read all the comments I have forgotten who said what lol
@I believe lol at poopert, that should be his name from henchforth!!! :0)
I once again want to apologize if anything Rogue and I discussed last night offended. The thing is, Rogue seems to be having her own pain here maybe personal and if analyzing helps her then what's the harm. I understand a need to analyze because I work for a Financial Planner/consultant so I kind of know how those minds work. I don't want to overstep not being a reg and all but I lurked and it seems there were much worse things discussed here in the past and no one objected. Compassion is the word of the day.
Ginger, I'm sorry for the ongoing pain your city is experiencing now
@Monica
I agree with you. They are basically crucifying her and wiping off everything she said or did that made them liked her in the first place. This is also such an insult to Rob and he was with her for so long. Are they saying that he couldn't see who she was in the years that they've been together? If she was like what they call her now, I doubt Rob would have been with her for so long. It's just so sad to see all this happening. I still don't know why she did it, but I don't doubt who K was for the past few years.
My heart just breaks for them now. I hope the media will quieten down soon and give them the space need to heal in their own time.
Hey everybody~
It's nice to see you all here and reading your comments...its therapeutic in a way, isn't it?
I don't think that it's too bad talking about some things. It's when it starts being a bit "descriptive" is what I think some are meaning.
I heard that the pics that are to come out in the mag are the same ones that are already out. Now, I don't know for sure but it is what I heard.
And please try to stay away from those gossip sites...they just want hits and to stir the pot. They are blowing everything out of proportion, and unfortunately, that's their job. It's your job to not listen to the utter bullshit they make up and try to get everyone to believe...and since when is "I think" fact?
I'm not saying that Kristen didn't mess up. What she did was wrong. Believe me, she knows this and is beating herself up over it and hurting Rob. I'm just saying that there is a lot more to this than her being stupid. Rupert is coming out in the media top so far. It kinda looks like he was ready for this, ya know? I just hope and pray that Kristen has someone that knows what they're doing helping her. I hope that she isn't alone. I hope that Rob isn't alone. I hope that they are surrounded by loved ones. I hope they know that they HAVE to talk about this no matter how much it hurts, or it will never get better or have closure.
I like Gio's one quote that he has on twitter about the "big bad wolf." That wolf is a f-ing scumbag, or ("poopert" as I*Believe says ;)).
And I wasn't going to bring up this, but I see it almost everywhere. Now this isn't condoning Kristen or excusing her for her mistake, but the definition of momentary means "lasting a very short time...brief." Not necessarily a one time thing, which I believe that it was (a one time thing). Not that it is any of our business.
Anyway, this just sucks. There are many that are soo hurt right now, especially Rob. I'm glad that we have Rose and this place to come to and be able to "talk" about them both in a respectful manner.
Remember compassion and not everything is black and white. I adore Rob. I adore Kristen...I will not ever turn my back on them for whatever they did/do...right or wrong.
~Lynn
@DreamerKind
I'm sorry, but you're definitely light-years more mature than I am. Here's to hoping for the sake of his kids that RS will change and treat his family the way any husband or father should.
I brought in the 'update' because to a certain extend, it means that Kristen has cut all ties with RS and hopefully the hideous name calling will start to dwindle. Though I am slightly sceptical with regards to the speed of RS & L's reconciliation. Sorry to bring it up again, but Rogue's theory came back to mind.
Howdy everyone... to many to type in and I'm just being lazy today
@MLH414.. you hit the nail on the head ..about the "discrptive part"
that was getting a tad to much..
and that was all... just that converstion...piece..
no one was offended just ..did not.. want to hear or talk about I'll abbreivate
OS...in the said car and you can figure it out..
anything else is theraptic and supported...
We are all have a common bond on Rose's blog.. to support and heal..
I give credit to Rouge and Luckystrike..for thinking conspirecy theroy ... I have those for Elvis and JFK as well...
And just for measure I grew up behind the generation to "question everything, and not to believe what was put down in ink or this case the frekin WWW...
Poopert it shall be good one ..
Time will tell..
they were best freinds and lovers..
I feel a song commin on
peace & love to all
Taylor Dayne
Saying goodbye is never an easy thing
But you never said, that you'd stay forever
So if you must go
Well, darlin, I'll set you free
But I know in time
That well be together
Oh, I wont try
To stop you now from leaving
Cause in my heart I know
(chorus)
Love will lead you back
Someday I just know that
Love will lead you back to my arms
Where you belong
Im sure, sure as stars are shining
One day you will find me again
It wont be long
One of these days
Our love will lead you back
One of these nights
Well I'll hear your voice again
Youre gonna say, oh, how much you miss me
You walked out this door
But someday you'll walk back in
Oh, darling I know
Oh, I know this will be
Sometimes it takes, sometime out on your own now
To find your way back home
(repeat chorus)
But I wont try to stop you now from leaving
Cause in my heart I know...oh yeah
(repeat chorus)
Love will lead you back
Someday I just know that
Love will lead you back to my arms
It wont be long
One of these days
Our love will lead you back
[ Lyrics from:
Howdy everyone... to many to type in and I'm just being lazy today
@MLH414.. you hit the nail on the head ..about the "discrptive part"
that was getting a tad to much..
and that was all... just that converstion...piece..
no one was offended just ..did not.. want to hear or talk about I'll abbreivate
OS...in the said car and you can figure it out..
anything else is theraptic and supported...
We are all have a common bond on Rose's blog.. to support and heal..
I give credit to Rouge and Luckystrike..for thinking conspirecy theroy ... I have those for Elvis and JFK as well...
And just for measure I grew up behind the generation to "question everything, and not to believe what was put down in ink or this case the frekin WWW...
Poopert it shall be good one ..
Time will tell..
they were best freinds and lovers..
I feel a song commin on
peace & love to all
@Boogie with Stew
I watched too much X-Files so I trust nothing
@ GWS .. I know right.. and that is where I used to learn how to go in "chat rooms" before they were called blogs...
I posted I song but I can't see it?
that's weird..
And the tragedy out in CO is horrific and those adjestives.. so sad..
Taylor Dayne...
Saying goodbye is never an easy thing
But you never said, that you'd stay forever
So if you must go
Well, darlin, I'll set you free
But I know in time
That well be together
Oh, I wont try
To stop you now from leaving
Cause in my heart I know
(chorus)
Love will lead you back
Someday I just know that
Love will lead you back to my arms
Where you belong
Im sure, sure as stars are shining
One day you will find me again
It wont be long
One of these days
Our love will lead you back
One of these nights
Well I'll hear your voice again
Youre gonna say, oh, how much you miss me
You walked out this door
But someday you'll walk back in
Oh, darling I know
Oh, I know this will be
Sometimes it takes, sometime out on your own now
To find your way back home
(repeat chorus)
But I wont try to stop you now from leaving
Cause in my heart I know...oh yeah
(repeat chorus)
Love will lead you back
Someday I just know that
Love will lead you back to my arms
It wont be long
One of these days
Our love will lead you back
sorry can spell or type today ..
Yeah - it just hit me hard this morning and I think with it happening around the corner but I just wish they would report real news as that - I come here to talk about this stuff but kinda expect news stations to report real stuff not who cheated who. Blah - looking for some good music to post and bring in some of those sun rays
Yeah ..I got the blaaaahs today.. alot going on in my life as well...
News is for profit..bottom line..
Music .. heals the soul...
Simply Red - such a throw back for me
"If You Don't Know Me By Now"
If you don't know me by now
You will never never never know me
All the things
That we've been through
You should understand me
Like I understand you
Now girl I know the difference
Between right and wrong
I ain't gonna do nothing
To break up our happy home
Don't get so excited
When I come home
A little late at night
Cos we only act like children
When we argue fuss and fight
If you don't know me by now
You will never never never know me
We've all got our
Own funny moods
I've got mine,
Woman you've got yours too
Just trust in me like I trust in you
As long as we've been together
It should be so easy to do
Just get yourself together
Or we might as well say goodbye
What good is a love affair
When you can't see eye to eye
If you don't know me by now
You will never
Never never know me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTcu7MCtuTs
Peabo Bryson
Can You Stop the Rain by Peabo Bryson
Here's another morning without you
Here's another day; will I get through it
Without breaking down?
Haven't seen the sun since you've been gone
Like my heart, I lost it when you left me
And it can't be found
How can I go on?
Baby, I'd be living on memories
Of you and me
All the love we made
All those tender nights
And those endless days
They're all here inside
(Chorus 1:)
Baby, can you stop the rain from falling?
Won't you chase my clouds away?
I'd give anything to see the sun again
Only you can stop these tears from falling
I can't face another day
Baby, can you stop
Can you stop the rain?
Ev'rywhere I go, I feel you there
Following my footsteps like a shadow
Of my broken heart
Sometimes, it's a pair of passing eyes
Or it's just the way someone is talking
And there you are
Am I all alone?
Don't you ever wake up
And reach for me
Where I used to be?
Is there any chance?
I just can't believe
You're not lonely, too
Just for me and you
(Repeat chorus 1)
(Bridge:)
If you were here for only one night
Baby, I know you'd remember
'Cause loving you once wasn't time enough
I know we can make it together
Together
(Chorus 2:)
Baby, stop the rain
Won't you chase my clouds away?
I'd give anything to see the sun again
Only you can stop these tears of mine from falling
I can't face another day
Baby, can you stop
Can you, can you stop the rain?
How can I live without you, baby?
How could I let you go?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0XMn0U9b2Y
good tunes
I just have to share something really funny - we were watching swimming on the Olympics and my future son in law was talking about the girls looking to to masculine so I told him there is a difference between our bodies and our center of gravity. I told him men cannot place a chair against a wall, place their head with the top of it against the wall, lift the chair than stand but a woman can. After he fell into the wall 3 times he made my daughter do it (which she did in one try)then got my son to try who also fell into the wall. So he is now stretching on the floor trying to do it again. My kids have my cell phone recording this - omg it is so funny. If you try this at home make sure they don't cheat cause their legs have to be together - my son was trying to do the splits and lift
If only you believe like I believe baby
We'd get by
If only you believe in miracles baby So would I
If only you believe like I believe baby
We'd get by
If only you believe in miracles baby
So would I
I might have to move Heaven and earth
To prove it to you baby
So we'll make love when you feel the power
And I feel the power
Then there's really nothing we can't do
If we wanted to
You know exist on a side, it'd be so easy
All we gotta do is get a little faith in you
If only you believe like I believe baby
We'd get by
If only you believe in miracles baby
So would I
If only you believe like I believe baby
We'd get by
If only you believe in miracles baby
So would I
I can't hear windmills and rainbows
Whenever you're walking with me
And I feel like swirling and dancing
Whenever you're walking with me
You feel like a river when I touch you
When I pluck your body like a string
When I started dancing inside you
It makes me wanna sing, oh baby
Oh I need you, oh baby
I need you
I need you my baby
Oh yeah all right
Baby we can do it tonight
Oh yeah, all right
Baby we can do it
Baby we can do it tonight
If only you believe like I believe baby
We'd get by
If only you believe in miracles baby
So would I
If only you believe like I believe baby
We'd get by
If only you believe in miracles baby
So would I
Read more: JEFFERSON STARSHIP - MIRACLES LYRICS http://www.metrolyrics.com/miracles-lyrics-jefferson-starship.html#ixzz222WUL3YZ
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yep we're made differnt.. that's funny @GWS... awwwwh to be young again..
Luckystrike- stop worrying, it's okay. I hope you both come back and talk some more :)
Boogie & Ginger- thanks for all the tunes. Music is therapy to me, as well :)
Hi everyone- enjoy what's left of the weekend. Lots of love...
@ Rhonda..hello...you're welcome..
@ Luckystrike @ Rouge.. it's all good..
watching the Olympics..
enjoying those speedos..giggles
n same way or another this has affected ALOT of us because we're fans BUT we "as fans" need to step back and let them be. Here's what I will take from this:
1. No one truly knows what's going on and why...Only the parties involved.
2. Kristen Stewart nor Robert Pattinson are perfect. They're human just like you and I.
3. Eventually, Kristen and Robert will need talk in order to heal and forgive. If not, they will carry this baggage with them always.
4. With God's strength and love this too shall pass.
This goes to Kristen Stewart, Robert Pattinson, and all the posters on this board:
James Morrison "I Won't Let You Go"
We become humble, wiser, and stronger by making mistakes.
RAPPER
Well said. I know we all want to be reasonable about this and God knows I have tried...really. Have. Tried.....sigh. But the u tube vid of the director at lunch with his hand down his crotch ...all the way down and IN. Can these vids be tampered with??? Could he really have done that while eating lunch???? Shaking my head and I am really starting to wonder if this is all a bad dream and that I am going to wake up in the morning and none of this really happened!!! Ugh
You feel the situation that happened between these people worse than press...and you comment it with sarcasm even when you try to hide it...i see it
Today, I feel much better. And, if there’s one thing that I can do for Rob, for Kristen, for every one of you, it’s to express my POSITIVE THOUGHT.
So, I want to do it right and please bear with me.
I, just like everyone here, was shocked, denial, angry, sad, depressed, pain…all the emotions that you can image for the last few days.
But, I finally realized that thing happens for a reason, good or bad.
Quote from an excellent read that I’ve found out earlier today, “WE all need to take a step back from this, allow ourselves some space to breathe. This is not our fight, our need to put things right. People need time to heal and time is a great giver. If our emotions are heightened right now, it's only because we care. But care should never turn to hate and hate should never become a part of who we are.”
It’s not our fight; it’s Kristen’s and Rob’s fight.
We feel such a strong emotion merely because WE CARE, we love them so much.
But, it’s not our fight!!!
Tell you all a little story of mine. I always think integrity is the most important quality in my life. And in my early 20’s, I did something that was totally against my principle. If you ask me why? Weakness it is.
So I believe when Kristen said that she and Rob are dead honestly kind of person, it’s from the bottom of her heart. I believe her.
I was cheated before, Yes, it was terrible. But I never ever hate them, not a bit. I don’t hate people that I loved.
Who am I to judge?
We’re only outsiders; we don’t know the whole story. We don’t know all the details in their life…
If it meant to be happening anyway, maybe now it’s the right timing (though it hurts like hell).
They are both young and loved by so many people, it’s easier to recover from pain when you’re younger.
Don’t hate on Kristen. I think she hates herself more than anyone in the world now.
This is a test for LOVE.
If they don’t love each other that much, then set each other free.
LOVE is fragile, but LOVE is also strong.
So after stop asking why, now I’m looking for how. How to make thing right?
I only pray that the POWER OF LOVE can conquer it all.
Please, give them as much time as they need. Weeks, months, years… as long as there’s hope, I’m willing to wait. Please, join me if you love them (or one of them at least).
There’s a reason that fate put Rob and Kristen together, put everyone here together. I think it is LOVE. So I want to believe that there will be a better tomorrow.
“We can all believe we are whiter than snow, we can all believe we could never do this, but no one is perfect and the day that someone creates perfection, will be the day that we will finally unlock the key to everlasting life.”
Give them time and strength, let them work it out.
If they are meant to be together, they will be together.
I want to see Rob HAPPY, if she is the answer. Give her a second chance to put things right.
Hello again, Ginger, Boogie, Rhonda, Olivia, rapper, "IB". Oh, you know I mean everyone!
Can't stay, going bbqing.
Fab tunes, dear dj stars.
Mostly keeping my eyes and ears open, while not knowing what it is they see/hear. Right? It's all pretty confusing.
Glad we have a Roseland to hang our hats. (Love hats, see my avi)
I'll be back later to join in, and to "take a cup o' kindness yet, for auld lang syne".
Bravo..Kl... I'm in
Carp diem @Dk...enjoy your outting..you look fabulous in your hat..
@Super
Ugh! You got that right. Later.
@KL
Well said and I'm on your page with LOVE doing it's work, on all sides, even though it doesn't seem so.
DK
I couldn't help it! I had to say something...:(
@Super
It's spreading like wildfire all over the net, that yucky video.
Squealing!!
I am bringing on the cheese
"Wind Beneath My Wings"
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
It must have been cold there in my shadow,
to never have sunlight on your face.
You were content to let me shine, that's your way.
You always walked a step behind.
So I was the one with all the glory,
while you were the one with all the strength.
A beautiful face without a name for so long.
A beautiful smile to hide the pain.
Did you ever know that you're my hero,
and everything I would like to be?
I can fly higher than an eagle,
'cause you are the wind beneath my wings.
It might have appeared to go unnoticed,
but I've got it all here in my heart.
I want you to know I know the truth, of course I know it.
I would be nothing without you.
Did you ever know that you're my hero?
You're everything I wish I could be.
I could fly higher than an eagle,
'cause you are the wind beneath my wings.
Did I ever tell you you're my hero?
You're everything, everything I wish I could be.
Oh, and I, I could fly higher than an eagle,
'cause you are the wind beneath my wings,
'cause you are the wind beneath my wings.
Oh, the wind beneath my wings.
You, you, you, you are the wind beneath my wings.
Fly, fly, fly away. You let me fly so high.
Oh, you, you, you, the wind beneath my wings.
Oh, you, you, you, the wind beneath my wings.
Fly, fly, fly high against the sky,
so high I almost touch the sky.
Thank you, thank you,
thank God for you, the wind beneath my wings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M912EcPDrKM&feature=related
"The Rose"
Some say love, it is a river
That drowns the tender reed.
Some say love, it is a razor
That leaves your soul to bleed.
Some say love, it is a hunger,
An endless aching need.
I say love, it is a flower,
And you its only seed.
It's the heart afraid of breaking
That never learns to dance.
It's the dream afraid of waking
That never takes the chance.
It's the one who won't be taken,
Who cannot seem to give,
And the soul afraid of dyin'
That never learns to live.
When the night has been too lonely
And the road has been too long,
And you think that love is only
For the lucky and the strong,
Just remember in the winter
Far beneath the bitter snows
Lies the seed that with the sun's love
In the spring becomes the rose.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf5UfOuvQHQ
dang everytime I hear that song I need a tissue..
Same here with that song.........Everytime!
OMG
That was lovely...The Rose...Thank you GINGER
ANNIE and BOOGIE...Hi
I have 2 more cheesy songs - but hey happy and love is better than sad and all the bad
Savage Garden
"I Knew I Loved You"
Maybe it's intuition
But some things you just don't question
Like in your eyes
I see my future in an instant
and there it goes
I think I've found my best friend
I know that it might sound more than
a little crazy but I believe
[chorus:]
I knew I loved you before I met you
I think I dreamed you into life
I knew I loved you before I met you
I have been waiting all my life
There's just no rhyme or reason
only this sense of completion
and in your eyes
I see the missing pieces
I'm searching for
I think I found my way home
I know that it might sound more than
a little crazy but I believe
[repeat chorus]
A thousand angels dance around you
I am complete now that I found you
[repeat chorus to fade]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZDMRJXY0nk
It's sad to see things the way they are now. I remember a simpler time, a time when members played games. "I'd Rather" and the epic MFK game when the fairy godmoter of all said between Big bird Kermit and someone else she would F*CK KERMIT AND F*CK AND F*CK HIM AGAIN. stuff of legends...ahhh for those simple times to be here again.
Hey all!
Super: How are you?
Hello Annie & Super happy Sunday evening..
@ GWS keep m rollin..love it
nsync (I am almost ashamed that I took my 2 older kids to see them in concert twice)
"This I Promise You"
Ohh ohh...
When the visions around you,
Bring tears to your eyes
And all that surround you,
Are secrets and lies
I'll be your strength,
I'll give you hope,
Keeping your faith when it's gone
The one you should call,
Was standing here all along..
And I will take
You in my arms
And hold you right where you belong
Till the day my life is through
This I promise you
This I promise you
I've loved you forever,
In lifetimes before
And I promise you never...
Will you hurt anymore
I give you my word
I give you my heart (give you my heart)
This is a battle we've won
And with this vow,
Forever has now begun...
Just close your eyes (close your eyes)
Each loving day (each loving day)
I know this feeling won't go away (no..)
Till the day my life is through
This I promise you..
This I promise you..
Over and over I fall (over and over I fall)
When I hear you call
Without you in my life baby
I just wouldn't be living at all...
And I will take (I will take you in my arms)
You in my arms
And hold you right where you belong (right where you belong)
Till the day my life is through
This I promise you baby
Just close your eyes
Each loving day (each loving day)
I know this feeling won't go away (no..)
Every word I say is true
This I promise you
Every word I say is true
This I promise you
Ooh, I promise you...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6thmPrTxBtI
Hi MJ.
A happy Sunday evening to you as well.
ANNIE
I'm trying to get some dinner going...I have been exhausted this week...drained would be a better word...from being too upset over the Robsten bubble burst....I am in the kitchen. I have decided to make breakfast for dinner. How are you doing?
MJ: I've had the most exhausting week as well.
Watching the Olympics at the moment.
Oh gosh!
Super: That comment was meant for you. :)
Chepsee:
There has been a lot of good, bad and ugly in Roseland during the 2+ years that I have been coming here. I do remember where I was, and where I have been since in most of the instances that you mentioned. I freely admit that I have had my own shortcomings and mistakes in how I've responded in some circumstances....those are mine to own, and I do. However, I refuse to believe that there is some sort of arbitrary rating scale to be applied that determines when a devastating event is a tragedy. The situation is devastating to them, that is why it is a personal tragedy to THEM. I believe ALL hurting, broken hearts deserve compassion....even if I don't know the individuals involved. If that means that I have "my head up my ass", so be it. At least I can be happy with where my heart is at.
KAY
Hello and we'll said!
ANNIE
No worries. I had my oatmeal this morning by the way:)
Hi guys!
How are you all doing?
Monica,
I am and have always been a Kristen fan. I'm a Rob fan. I'm their fan whether they are together or apart. Their relationship has always reminded me or what my husband and I share so, of course, I want them to be together!
It does make me sad, but not that sad. This has not been tearing me to pieces. I've not cried, nor have I lost sleep. It has caused a pang in me, because I can relate to what Kristen is going through and I can imagine (from watching my husband suffer) what Rob must be feeling. Thank goodness I didn't have to go through it publicly. I was the last person anyone would have thought would cheat, myself included.
From the pictures I looked at, Kristen and Poopert went from not standing next to each other at the beginning of May to standing next to each other but not touching a little into May. Then mid-May, Poopert has his hand grasped around her waist and hip and they are giving sidelong glances. And at the end of Jun, not only are the hands in play, but their is full on eye contact. Maybe I'm seeing things wrong, but I do know from experience that full on make-out sessions like those from the pictures don't happen without some serious flirting leading up to it.
I don't want to speculate or think about that anymore because it is none of my business and it makes me feel yucky so I'm done with it now that I responded to Monica. I want the best for both of them and I hope they both make it to a happy place. Together if that is the best for them and that is what makes them happiest, but if not, bless them both!!
Super:
Haha.... Me too! Still with raisins and cranberries?��
Hey Leni......Doing good. Just tired.
howdy everyone ....breakfast for dinner have done that many times..
I know it's been an exhausting week for all..
totally wiped out.. and I guess I don't have a life been on here everyday..oh well..heal & breath
for all my friends in Roseland ..
hearts heal, maybe mared but life does go on..
Support both no matter what the future holds...
and not an exscuse but being over half a century and looking back
22 is young..
Another Nsync
"Crazy For You"
Wherever I go, whatever I do,
Whenever my heart is crying out for you.
Wherever I go, Whatever I do
I'm crazy for you
It's not easy to be alone
It's not easy to fall in love
Every night I just get down and pray
That you come my way
I've never had a girl like
you (girl like you)
I've never known what love could do
Wish you'd come baby and set me free
I can't let it be, yeah
Wherever I go, whatever I do,
Whenever my heart is crying out for you.
Wherever I go, Whatever I do
I'm crazy for you
I wanna, I wanna rock with you
I'm gonna, I'm gonna make it true
I wanna, I wanna rock with you
I'm crazy for you
I'm waiting for the phone to ring
And all the wonder love should bring
All the things, darling I left behind
Please give me a sign
A little smile would light my life
A single touch would blow my mind
Girl you know, by now you've got to be mine
Till the end of time
Wherever I go, whatever I do,
Whenever my heart is crying out for you.
Wherever I go, Whatever I do
I'm crazy for you
Wherever I go, whatever I do,
Whenever my heart is crying out for you.
Wherever I go, (wherever I go) Whatever I do
I'm crazy for you
I wanna, I wanna rock with you
I'm gonna, I'm gonna make it true
I wanna, I wanna rock with you
I'm crazy for you
I wanna, I wanna rock with you
I'm gonna, I'm gonna make it true
I wanna, I wanna rock with you
I'm crazy for you
(AHHHHHH!)
Wherever I go, whatever I do,
Whenever my heart is crying out for you.
Wherever I go, (wherever I go) Whatever I do
Wherever I go, whatever I do,
Whenever my heart is crying out for you.
Wherever I go, (wherever I go) Whatever I do
I'm crazy for you
Wherever I go, whatever I do,
Whenever my heart is crying out for you.
Wherever I go, (wherever I go) Whatever I do
I'm crazy for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikI-4D_1s-c&NR=1&feature=endscreen
The video for I drive myself crazy is pretty funny if you need a laugh
Hi LENI
Good to see you!
Thank you GINGER...you are so sweet!
BOOGIE
22 is VERY YOUNG...When I say that I hope nobody thinks I am downplaying how sad Rob is....precious angel...I love him so..and I'm so sorry...I ditto everything you said
Let me tell this story. It is true
A couple in our neighborhood had 4 children. The wife...very well loved and respected housewife who coached girls track team at our private school...she had an affair, divorced and married the other man...had a baby with him...divorced him and remarried her first husband and they have been happily remarried for a decade so far. So as you can see there can be forgiveness...surely if for her, we can forgive a 22 year old for bad judgement. I hope Rob can also, eventually...but with the understanding that it cannot happen again...the relationship the director has with his wife would be unacceptable to me....this is NOT the first time he has slipped!
Hello everyone.
@SamPowell/Monica,I agree with you,Rob is not an idiot,he was with her for almost 4 years,he will definitely knows if Kristen is faking her feelings or not.
@Boggie,your like me,I always questions everything before believing it right away.
@MLH414,so you have read Gio's tweets,he's been very supportive of Kristen,he treats her like his sister.
@30,I almost pee in my pants with your peeing comments.
If the rumor is true that Rob is not taking any phone calls from the people he will be working,I just hope that his people with give him time to heal.I'm also worried about him with this press junkets in NY in 3 weeks,he will be harass by the media and the papz.And for Kristen,I hope that she will push back the filming of Cali.I'm worried about her mental and physical health.
So it seems that RS have done this before according to his wife,if she allowed this then she probably have an agenda.
It's sad for me to realize that a week ago we were sitting home and watching them at the TCAs..All seemed well but I admit I was suspicious because of the big smile on NIKKI'S face and the shout out K gave her...it stopped me cold in my tracks...now I know why...
I see that a lot of people have been posting songs. I've been thinking of Rob and Kristen and this song came to mind:
Stacy Barthe (Find Your Way)
Verse 1
In A World, Full Of People,
Here I Sit, All Alone,
My Better Half, Is Gone
I Been Hurting For A Long Time,
If Your See Me Smiling
Now I'm Lying
On The Inside
I'm 2 Seconds From Dying
But Nobody Knows It
But Nobody Know
Cause They Can’t Hear Me At Night
When I'm Crying
Holding My Pillow Tight
Pretending It Was You
Chorus
Find Your Way Um Back To Me
Find Your Way Come Back To Me, Oh
Find Your Way To Me
Find Your Wayyyyah
Find Your Way Back In To My Heart
Find Your Way Back When We First Started
Find Your Way To Me
Find Your Way
Verse 2
Is It Just Me
Or Does The World Seem
Like It's Gotten Colder In January
Nothing Looks The Same
And Everything Reminds Me Of You, You
Like In Abandon Town
You Left My Heart
In Shambles
You Broke Me Down, Down, Down
And No One Really Knows It But You,
No One Really Knows It,
Cause They Can't Hear Me At Night
When I'm Crying
Holding My Pillow Tight
Pretending It Was You!!!
Repeat Chorus
Cause They Can't Hear Me At Night
When I'm Crying
Holding My Pillow Tight
Pretending It Was You!!!
Repeat Chorus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izWSamOCJYg
Super: What shutout?
“A person who has good thoughts cannot ever be ugly. You can have a wonky nose and a crooked mouth and a double chin and stick-out teeth, but if you have good thoughts they will shine out of your face like sunbeams and you will always look lovely.” ― Roald Dahl
Sorry.......it should read shout out.
Hey DK. :)
ANNIE
Nikki was in the audience when Tay, Rob and Kristen were accepting their surfboards and she mentioned Nikki being in the audience. The camera goes to her...biggest smile you ever saw on her face....
@ Super ...thanks for sharing. that touching story.. I grew up in a small town , I have witinessed this myself.. and have a private story of my own..
I havescrewed up ,and regreted.. life is the best teacher.. and my head is made of granite... by the time I was 22 I was a mum...
It is a bummer...for sure.. I really don't care for Mizz Reed but oh well just me..
Rob is a Britt and he is wise and strong and with his bud Tom and you better beleive he's in touch with him..
Kristen with her folks.. only time will tell...
Waiting for the next shoe to fall..seems there's always more to the story...
love the tunes
DK
I love that quote! How was the BBQ?
Thanks Super.......
Hmmm.......
@Super
My SIL said it would rain at 4pm and although it didn't, will take resting vs hot dogs. FWM (fine w/me)
There is another bbq here at my bldg but I'd have to spiff up some (look human) to meet neighbors, and am not inclined after being declined!
BOOGIE
We have all done things we wish we had NOT. I believe we pay for our sins right here on earth...It's hell right here...we don't have to die to find it! Looking back, my worst mistakes were made in my 30's and I have to wake up every damn day and acknowledge my shortcomings. It is sobering...
OK... I am going to try to wrap up all this reflection and move on to more uplifting themes. I promise to try!
Rose thank you My hart gos out to Rob and to Kris I am also worried about Kristen safety YOU KNOW their SOOOOOOOOO menyNUTS out. There right now WHO WANT HER DEAD I hope SHE IS SAFE I think Rob would be upset and hurt IF ANY THING WAS TO HAPPEN TO HER YES what she did was bad BUT WHO AM I TO POINT MY FINGER IM NOT GOD I HOPE THEM THEBEST like some of you have said THEY DO LOVE EACH OTHER I hope Rob finds the time to really think and not forget that MY hart hurts for them :(. DEB.
DK
It is raining here right now. I have downloaded some wonderful pictures of Rob I found on the Internet today. I haven't done that in a long time. Lots of stills from all his various movies....I changed my screen saver to " The Cullen's" from Twilight....God how I love Edward in Twilight...my favorite Edward!!
@Annie :))
@Super
Re: K noticing N @ TCA:
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
- William Shakespeare, Hamlet, 1.5
@Super
Rainy days and beautiful men. Ah, the memories.
And hell? Here? Just may be!
I was innocent when I was born, and if reborn in any way, will be again.
French fries would help me today.
Super~We so think alike. I thought the smirk from Ikki was odd too.
Hi IB
So I wasn't the only one whose heart went cold...
DK
What do you like on your fries? Here we like vinegar and lots of ketchup!
Anyone..can my face get burned, red, dried out and crinkled from the rays of my laptop, after beaming for hours on it? Or is that only fantasy?
@Super
You're in the beaty spa biz, too, so maybe it's like a skin treatment, a peel?
@Boogie
Namaste, we've survived.
@deb
Hi!
@Ginger
You spin my world with your melodies.
@Super
Fries, well let's see..plain only if natural cut unfrozen with some skin still on, ketchup for crinkled/frozen, mustard when out of ketchup, malt vinegar or balsamic, cheesy, lots of sea salt and/or garlic, and finally, a tad greasy. Heaven to me.
I found a couple pretty neat quotes
Forgiveness is the final form of love.
Reinhold Niebuhr
Forgiveness is the remission of sins. For it is by this that what has been lost, and was found, is saved from being lost again.
Saint Augustine
Genuine forgiveness does not deny anger but faces it head-on.
Alice Duer Miller
He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself; for every man has need to be forgiven.
Thomas Fuller
@bubblejoi
You go, DJ! Playing your song now :)
@Ginger
Bridges ford us over troubled waters, and trains honking horns in the deep of night under them, are two of life's safety nets.
DK
You will age your skin by not getting enough sleep!!! Lol
OK. The Ultimate Skin Care Plan. By Me! Hahaha
Eat a colorful plate!!! You can have some fries also!!!
Keep yourself WELL HYDRATED!!!! Especially if you have had any alcohol!!!
Take supplements!
Balance your HORMONES!
Make good quality sleep a priority!!!!
Have a facial ONCE A MONTH!
Wear SUNBLOCK if you are outside or in your car!!!
Use a Clairsonic machine to cleanse your face!!!
buy Professional Products!!! We like Obaji and Neocutis
Use a Retin A or Retnol at least 2-3 nights per week!!!!
Use Botox and fillers as needed!!!! But don't be a slave to those products...All things in moderation:). Well most of the time. Lol
As you can see my spelling has not improved.... RETINOL...ugh
@ Super high five on that hell on earth sernio..
@ DK love the quotes,
wine & fries... used to go under the bridge in a town called Sarnia and the "chip" man would be there and have hot fries with vinegar oh those were the days..
howdy deb and *I*B & Annie,Holy, Sam, Monica,Leni, Unknown and if i didn't type acknowledgment plez forgive..
more good quotes..@GWS
yes happy thoughts ...
GINGER
Yes. You have a good soul!
@ Super , I have the same typing and spelling issues...lol
thanks for the facial tips..
will google clarssonic...
been considering the fillers, my daughter made a frowny face when I mentioned this and said grandmothers were supposed to have wrinkles ... and said yeah when there 70...
@Super
Speaking of body and soul. You know me inside in/out! Sleep, alcohol and the rest, I'll make a list. Starting now, with a martini which will make doing the rest, easy!
@IBelieve
Come on, honey, bring forth some of your famous !!!!!!!! XO
@Boogie
Yes, daw, take that! At 70. Not before!
"We have all done things we wish we had NOT. I believe we pay for our sins right here on earth...It's hell right here...we don't have to die to find it!"
VERY true Super! Best statement I have heard threw all of this and I of course can relate. Maybe not with cheating, I was pregnant at 23 and a single mom by 27 single for eight years alone eight years it took me to find "me" we ALL have skeletons in are closet. The only way to move on from them is to be honest with are selves the good and the ugly of are souls time does heal and owning up and learning from are mistakes.
I really hope with this being the last BD things are not horrible for these two. I have images of the media eating them alive out there. :(
There are more tragedies here than meet the eye. Non fans do not understand our heartbreak so thank you for giving us a place to grieve and start to heal (hopefully). It has been a crushing blow to realize our fantasy of "Robert and Kristen Forever" is most likely over. I feel like my parents just told me they were breaking up. I feel very lost and disoriented. Thank you for making me feel like I'm not alone with my grief. Rob's fans understand what a sensitive guy he is and this earthquake was a strong one that will have "aftershocks" on his life long term.
Truth be told, I have been cheated on and been a cheater. Neither is a picnic, but being the cheater caused much more inner turmoil. The depression is severe and ALL actors tend to be sensitive types. I keep telling myself to give them time to process before I resign myself to the fact "this is the end", but it is. I am NOT a sensitive person but I cry at commercials the last few days. Reading your posts and other people's comments and advice has really helped me today. I love your blog. Please help me see the light you shine in the lighthouse. I need the guidance. THANK YOU!
cheers to you DK...eat, drink, and be merry...I drink to good health and turning 70!
going to jump off for awhile and attempt to get some more domestic
tasks accomplished..
love and happy thoughts to all
DK
Just have a glass of water before you have that martini! I'm jealous...I wish you could make me one...I'm cryin over here!!!
BOOGIE
I don't mind being a grandmother but I sure don't want to look like one!
Reading All the comments... So happy to see so many of the old regs stopping by. Trying to go forward, daughter returned from the South Pacific on one piece, with lots of wonderful memories !
30
Im so glad to see you Dear Girl!!!! And CONGRATS on your marriage!!!
You are so wise to say what you say...sigh...I am worried also...about the BD2 Premiere. I don't see why they have to go if they don't want to...I'm not sure that K will be safe to go and if she doesn't want to go I don't think they should try to make her...That is a convo I would like to have with PR PRO...if only we could conger her up....
Read this on IMDB:
Wish I could personally hug the writer.
I will be at BD2 and
WILL support Kristen.
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by CoriJohn1 40 minutes ago (Sun Jul 29 2012 16:09:56)
She made a poor decision. She messed up. She did a bad thing. Now what? She can't undo it; it's done. Is she supposed to be burned at the stake? Wear a scarlet letter? Is she supposed to go into hiding? She has obligations that still need to be met. People are depending on her to do her job. She is the star of a movie that is told through her characters' POV. She has to show up, even though we caught her being a flawed human being. How is it cold-hearted to say, "Kristen, you messed up, but we still support your career?" What are we supposed to do? Burn her an effigy? She is already paying for her mistakes. None of us have the responsibility to make her pay more. Do you think Robert and Rupert's wife are going to come and give you a high five? Unfortunately, life does goes on. All of these holier than thou people on these boards kill me. I have never encountered so many saints in my life. Well, you grab your halo and wave it in the air. I'll keep being a regular person who makes mistakes. I want to continue to be entertained by Kristen Stewart. She's not playing herself in movies. She's playing characters and I enjoy the way she does it.
KENZZ
I have been meaning to conjure you up and there you are dear friend!!! So glad to her daw is back safe and sound!,, (. See... I caught another misspelled word...eye roll)...
Tried to port a couple of times, but no luck! If this goes through, know that I support Rob, but will ALWAYS PICK SWEET Kris up
@Kenzz
Glad she's back safe. <3
@Super
I can make one for you, and will drink it for you, too! H2O, here I go.
@allypooh
Indeed, you speak truth. Join us all here, who drink fresh from the well.
@Annie
All appropriate thumbs are now up with you!
@Super
K may want to go, if she is then back, on R's arm, walking the red. What? I'm a dreamer...
DK: :):):) Wish I could hug you too.
@Super RN,good advice for the beauty product my dear.Obagi is the best.
I'm with you guys,I'm worried about Kristen more if she will attend the BD2 promo and premier.Their are going to be thousands of people their,if somebody wants attack her,it doesn't matter if how many security she have,they will not be able to protect her.As much as I want to see her,I hope she doesn't attend.
@30
Waiting years for A was worth it I'd guess! Works in progress, mostly get completed.
@Holy
Let's all go and form a moving circle around her, like mind shielding (BD style) but with our bodies. Didn't a group of fans stop someone trying to cause Rob probs once before?
Hi Everyone!
Daw wants to know why speedwalking is an Olympic sport and not cheerleading.
Yes, DK he was worth the wait. :)
I am sure she has to attend because how can you not have Bella - they might have to pull the crowd back but the fact that we are talking about her being physically harmed is just jaw dropping. Her actions were against her and Rob - I know there are some severely crazy people that feel they are avenging Rob but one would hope they know he is not going to enjoy seeing her harmed or he wouldn't be the guy everyone thought he was. I think the severe other side of this fandom should be embarrassed (although I know they are not) because they really do him no real favors as do her extreme fans. It is like that cousin you don't want to admit is family ............
@IB
Great question she posed. It is an art!
!!!!!!!!!! (like that!)
@Super
Just saw your moderation lol remark. We certainly aren't moderate fans in our devotion or focus. lol. Seeing merit in that, especially in these moments.
@DK you are kinder than me - from what I have heard (I refuse to look at) a couple of them need meds post haste or good old fashioned spanking, a couple need the belt (I hated when my dad would take that sucker off). It shows the line that is crossed from being a fan to a psycho.
DK~They are also athletes...they condition like crazy...my liitle 11 yr. old girl has a 6 pack!
@Ginger
Not being kind. Meant fans would step in and knock the nutbags down. :)
@OT (off topic)
OMG, my best martini yet with freshly squeezed peaches and cream. I died.
And watched the first Sex In The City movie, again, and was touched by the girls making choices to forgive Big & Steve. Loved the fashions so much!
@IB
Very true. Those young girls on the Dance Moms show are ripped at about the same age. Excellence in applied arts.
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