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Saturday, August 11, 2012

Rob and Kristen-- Any Road Will Take You There


This is one of my favorite pictures of Rob and Kristen.
It was the beginning...

I really don't have any pithy comments anymore.
I'm kinda tired of the endless twitlongers
expressing anger/sadness/regret 
about something that doesn't concern us.
I'm tired of all the judgement and accusations
about a relationship that we have only seen minutes at a time.
I'm tired of the undeserved hatred that Kristen Stewart has been
getting in this fandom from day one.
I'm tired of the assumptions and speculation made by
people who just want to profit off other peoples pain.
I'm tired that people seem to forget that Rob and Kristen
are flawed human beings... 
and they have feelings just like you or me.


All I will say is that I want Rob and Kristen to find happiness
Wherever that road leads.

Yes.
I think when they come out on the other side...
They will be together.
But that's just me.

This fandom is incredibly selfish.
We don't want what is best for Rob and Kristen
We want what is best for us.
Let's face it...
The outcome we desire
whatever that may be
Isn't based on what will make Rob and Kristen happy...
It's what will make us happy.

I just want them to be OK.
No matter what I want or think will happen.
They deserve happiness.
I want people to just fucking leave them alone.

Rob is going to be on TV next week
promoting Cosmopolis.
I wish people could just focus on that.
I wish people could let Rob do his job
without having to put up with people screeching at him
about private intimate parts of his life...
Like they think they are entitled.

Next week is about Cosmopolis.
Rob is proud of this movie.
Rob is so proud of this movie that he is willing
to subject himself to some of the worst
this fandom has to offer.

Good Luck Rob.
I hope you have a LOT of security around you.
(and maybe some silver bullets?)


Final thoughts.


Normally I wouldn't post a pap picture of someone's baby...
But since you can't see baby Marlowe
I wanted to comment on something that I love about this picture
(Besides Tom... hair knot and all)
How protective Thomas is.
Look at him.
His arm is wrapped around the handle of the buggy...
He is holding on tight to his little girl.
How fucking adorable is that?
How adorable is HE??

Green Sheep.
Fucking forever.


2. I leave for Hawaii tomorrow morning.
I will be gone a week.
So...
I doubt I will be posting anything in that time.
Unless I'm sitting in a chair like the picture above
(which I plan on doing a lot, I may add)
and I get on my Ipad and post a picture or two.
It will definitely be hit or miss.
I have a dear friend watching the blog for me.
So all is taken care of.

Aloha!

Until next time.

Bye for now


And if you don't know where you're going
Any road will take you there

3,558 comments:

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Tempest said...

So...
Kristen needs those around her to keep trying to get inside, keep trying to get her to understand that life goes on, and so will hers.

Rob loves her
If he didn't he wouldn't be hurting too. It's so easy to go out and put on a brave face, he's like Kristen an actor and an actor has many faces. He is facing the world at a time he would rather they left them alone. But he has had a job to do and he is doing it the best he can. People will speculate and watch his every move, i don't need to, one glimpse is enough for me to understand the hysteria bubbling up inside of him.

Kristen keeps him calm, she has always kept him centred, she has always been the centre of his world - she needs to remember that.
He would be nothing had she not had the faith in him, the strength in her beliefs that he had an inner strength, an inner power that needed to be seen.

Now he needs to be her strength, he needs to be her guidance, he needs to be her calm.
But she needs to let him in.
I don't believe either are going to walk away without scars from this but scars are good because they heal. If they love each other as much as we all believe they love each other, then they need to start fighting back, they need to start beating the media back.

They need to show the pillar of strength they have always been for each other and stand together.
They need each other.

simple and very truthful
x

Annie said...

Rob is appearing on GMA later this morning.

All I'm asking/hoping/wishing for is for him to address the vicious/insane hate being directed toward Kristen..........Please, please address the hate and shut it down then.
End the interview with that.

Holy said...

@Tempest,nice words,thank you for that.

@Ginger-hello again,you disappear.Did you have fun playing the video games?

That was nice of Eddie R.,he is such a good friend of Kristen.I have no doubt,that her friends and people that work with her will not turn their back.

Anonymous said...

I came back to say Goodnight to Roseland, and saw your posts, tempest. I don't know how to thank you. Hugs

The amount of jealousy and hatred for someone who is young, beautiful, talented, loved, wealthy, healthy and has the world at her feet, and the desire to tear her down is FROM THE PIT OF HELL. Please dear, Kristen, don't let it continue. We are here for you, even though you do not know most of us personally. I am praying for Rob as well. He will NOT be better without you, ever.

Goodnight Roseland.

Kathy said...

@ Tempest...I couldn't have said it better myself. SO true.

Monica said...

@DK, really? They are ordering multiple bottles of Florabotanica?
Well, I didn't plan to order initially coz perfume is not my thing. But after all this drama and hate feast, I decide to order one as support to Kristen. I have to show those snobbish bosses in the business that Kristen can still sell people!!

@Tempest, xoxo

Monica from Asia

DreamerKind said...

Dog Eat Dog

Adam & The Ants:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80BjMQCSzo

You may not like
The things we do
Only idiots
Ignore the truth

Its easy to
Lay down and hide
Wheres the warrior
Without his pride?

Were gonna move real good
Yeah right
Were gonna dress so fine
Ok

We may not lie
The things we say
What's the difference
Anyway

Dog eat dog eat dog eat dog
Eat dog eat dog eat dog eat dog
Leapfrog the dog
And brush me daddy-o

It makes me proud
So proud of you
I see innocence
Shining through

Thank you/bansheeeee

DreamerKind said...

@Monica
Two ladies I saw mentioned 10 bottles each for Christmas presents, bought sight and scent unseen, already pre-ordered.

I'll be buying it, too and the one fragrance before it (for more mature ladyloves they say).

Of course, we all say we'll cancel our orders if Kristen leaves the campaign or is not part of it.

Re: Rob, where he goes, I follow the drum (not literally).

Monica said...

@DK, oh yeah, it's a great idea for Christmas present!!! OK, I guess I have to buy more. And of course, if they abandoned Kristen, I wouldn't want Florabotanica anywhere near me. ;)

Monica from Asia

DreamerKind said...

Winding down that long winding road, that leads to your door and my bed, very soon.

Ah..

The Sound Of Silence

Simon & Garfunkel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-yuQdPr7uQ

Hello darkness, my old friend,
I've come to talk with you again,
Because a vision softly creeping,
Left its seeds while I was sleeping,
And the vision that was planted in my brain
Still remains
Within the sound of silence.

In restless dreams I walked alone
Narrow streets of cobblestone,
'Neath the halo of a street lamp,
I turned my collar to the cold and damp
When my eyes were stabbed by the flash of
a neon light
That split the night
And touched the sound of silence.

And in the naked light I saw
Ten thousand people, maybe more.
People talking without speaking,
People hearing without listening,
People writing songs that voices never share
And no one deared
Disturb the sound of silence.

"Fools" said I,"You do not know
Silence like a cancer grows.
Hear my words that I might teach you,
Take my arms that I might reach you."
But my words like silent raindrops fell,
And echoed
In the wells of silence

And the people bowed and prayed
To the neon god they made.
And the sign flashed out its warning,
In the words that it was forming.
And the signs said, The words of the prophets
are written on the subway walls
And tenement halls.
And whisper'd in the sounds of silence.

Thank you/TheGTAMaster001

angelica1 said...

Morning DK and Monica

Florabotanica isn't released here until Sept 19th but I'll be buying at least 3 to start with :)

DreamerKind said...

Someone asked me for a song but I can't find the post. Please repeat.

@Perdido
Consider changing Perdido to Encontrado. What is found was sought. Lost and found, are together waiting to be taken home.

@Rob & Kristen
Sleep, sleep, deep, reap. (The magic wands waves for you tonight.)

Annie said...

DK: Have you been up all this time?

DreamerKind said...

I stand watch, as I fly..bye❤

DreamerKind said...

A great source of calamity lies in regret and anticipation; therefore a person is wise who thinks of the present alone, regardless of the past or future.
Oliver Goldsmith

All I know is, I was trying to win the football game. And the bottom line is, you have to do what you think is right. You have to go with your gut. And if you don't do that, then I think you regret a lot of things later on.
Mike Singletary

As I became very defined in my personal politics, I turned down some films that I slightly regret now; I'm not going to say what they were.
Julie Christie

But at the same time, I don't let myself regret things to the point that I'm paralyzed.
Moby

Do not brood over your past mistakes and failures as this will only fill your mind with grief, regret and depression. Do not repeat them in the future.
Sivananda

Later in my life, I'm going to look back and smile and be very fulfilled. I know that if I don't give it my all right now I'll regret it later. That's very important to me, because I've worked all my life to have this.
Shania Twain

Satisfaction lies in the effort, not in the attainment, full effort is full victory.
Mahatma Gandhi

To be able to look back upon ones life in satisfaction, is to live twice.
Khalil Gibran

What we call happiness in the strictest sense comes from the (preferably sudden) satisfaction of needs which have been dammed up to a high degree.
Sigmund Freud

In all our contacts it is probably the sense of being really needed and wanted which gives us the greatest satisfaction and creates the most lasting bond.
Eleanor Roosevelt

Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com

DreamerKind said...

@Annie
No, slept well for five, and soon some more. You?

Annie said...

:) :) DK.

I have to get up and get ready for work but I want to say something to Kristen Stewart:

Be disappointed and angry at yourself BUT dust yourself off and get up and fight.........
Get up and fight!
Do not let anyone, including yourself let this scandal define you..........Just don't!
--------------------------
I have a few choice words for Universal, Rupert Sanders, the media and a few others who are milking this all they can and in the process showing us just how disgusting certain elements of our society have become but I haven't had coffee yet and all I can think of is .......Fuck off!
I'll be more articulate in a few hours.

DreamerKind said...

Been thinking about this scene from the movie "Bridget Jones Diary" (again):

At a dinner party the same day, Bridget confesses her feelings for Mark, only to find out that he and Natasha are both leaving to accept jobs in New York.

Bridget interrupts the toast to their pending engagement with a halting "NO! NO!" but moving speech about England losing one of its finest, which clearly has an effect on Mark, as he realises her real meaning, but he still flies to New York, though with obvious misgivings.

Just as Bridget starts to embark on a trip from London to Paris with her friends to mend her broken heart, Mark returns to stay with Bridget. YES! YES! YES!

Finis

Annie said...

DK:
I didn't sleep very well, no.
---------------------------------
This is written by Jodie Foster:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/15/jodie-foster-blasts-kristen-stewart-robert-pattinson-break-up-spectacle.html

DreamerKind said...

@Annie
Read this! Jodie Foster thinks like you.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/15/jodie-foster-blasts-kristen-stewart-robert-pattinson-break-up-spectacle.html

DreamerKind said...

@Annie
OMG, twice posted must have been needed and all at once! Kismet!

Annie said...

Thanks DK:
I saw it after I posted but I haven't read it yet.
I have to get ready but I will read it on my phone.

DreamerKind said...

Many things that glitter are on Twitter!

@Annie
It's going to be okay.

DreamerKind said...

Go Rob!

Tweet

QueenOfTheDesertFilm ‏@QOTDfilm
Here is the addy for the new blog! Bookmark it for later ~ http://queenofthedesertfilm.wordpress.com/

angelica1 said...

Annie, DK - What a great article. I love Jodie Foster :)

Oneheart said...

Good morning Roseland...Sorry for the lyrics being posted to this song but it tells a story of hope and hope is what some need right now...A beautiful song for the beauty in all of us..we just have to believe in ourselves and in those who love us.

LEARN TO FLY
BY: Christian Ingebrigtsen

When you feel the dream is over
Feel the world is on your shoulders
And you lost the strength to carry on

Even though the walls may crumble
And you find you always stumble through
Remember never to surrender to the dark


'Cuz if you turn another page
You will see that’s not the way
The story has to end


And if you need to find a way back
Feel you’re on the wrong track
Give it time
You’ll learn to fly


Tomorrow is a new day
And you will find your own way
You’ll be stronger with each day that you cry
Then you’ll learn to fly


In your head, so many questions
The truth is your possession
The answer lies within your heart


You will see the doors are open
If you only dare to hope
And you will find a way to fight
The fears that kept you down


'Cuz if you turn another page
You will see that’s not the way
The story has to end


And if you need to find a way back
Feel you’re on the wrong track
Give it time
You’ll learn to fly


Tomorrow is a new day
And you will find your own way
You’ll be stronger with each day that you cry
Then you’ll learn to fly


Looking at your situation
There’s so much that you can do
Now is the time to make your stand


This is just an observation
In the end it’s up to you
The future’s in your hands


And if you need to find a way back
Feel you’re on the wrong track
Give it time
You’ll learn to fly


Tomorrow is a new day
And you will find your own way
You’ll be stronger with each day that you cry
Then you’ll learn to fly


Give it time
Then you’ll learn to fly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCPQoI9EejU


Maria said...

not even out of bed...read Josie's article. So happy that she voiced her opinion. I hope Kristen gets to read it.

Goodmorning Roseland.

DreamerKind said...

@Oneheart
Perfect! That's also how fairygodmothers learn to fly.

@angelica1
Morning! Almost midday for you. It is a great article that she wrote so well.

Making myself go to sleep. Wand waving does it.

Oneheart said...
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Unknown said...

Good Morning Everyone,

I thought Jodie's article was very insightful and just what some people needed to hear. Unfortunately there are some people who are determined to hate and there is no amount of reasoning that will change that. What I hope Kristen takes from the article(if she reads it, which I pray she does)is Jodie saying that being able to throw your arms up in abandon and joy is the ultimate F*ck you! Please Kristen, don't let them take it from you, and if you feel they have, fight to get it back. It's funny how Jodie and Rose seem to see twirling as the ultimate statement of strength. Great minds........

Have a good day everyone!

Oneheart said...

Sorry for the delete above but the youtube link got posted twice...LOL

Oneheart said...
DK songs send such a powerful message. I love this song by Eminem but the lyrics are very strong and the language is pretty bad but it is Eminem after all. LOL

He's telling you never to let someone tell you that you're not beautiful inside and out..I won't post the lyrics but the lyrics are in with the video.

It's worth listening too..he knows alot about fighting and pulling yourself back up when you reach the low points in your life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtA4swl7gI4

angelica1 said...

DK - Yes it's almost noon. I feel as if I've had a full day already,mad dash to the airport this morning, then I've been training people all morning.My brain is mush.LOL

Gina Baker - I think the twirling analogy is a very good one.The best way to respond to detractors is to succeed :)

Oneheart said...

BEAUTIFUL LIKE YOU
BY: Lee Dewyze

Everybody wants to
Look into the mirror
And feel a little better now

And everybody wants to
Know there's someone out there
Waiting for you to come around

And I wish that
You could feel it
But you don't choose
To believe it
Cuz I know that
You can't see it that way
That way

If you could only just stop stop stop running
If you could only take a second to breathe it in
Everything that you know would be beautiful
Like you
You know they're never gonna stop stop stop your love
Let's pretend that the world is waking up
Everything that we see is beautiful
Like you
Like you

Everybody wants to
Tell someone their secrets
Why don't you tell me now

Well maybe I can fix this
Then I don't want
You to miss this
Say I'm sorry
Raining down
Yeah

If you could only just stop stop stop running
If you could only take a second to breathe it in
Everything that you know would be beautiful
Like you
You know they're never gonna stop stop stop your love
Let's pretend that the world is waking up
Everything that we see is beautiful
Like you

Sometimes is hard to be
Yourself in this crazy world
Sometimes is hard to breathe
Yeah

Everybody wants to
Know there's someone out there
Waiting for you to come around
Come around

If you could only just stop stop stop running
If you could only take a second to breathe it in
Everything that you know would be beautiful
Like you
You know they're never gonna stop stop stop your love
Let's pretend that the world is waking up
Everything that we see can be beautiful
Like you

Can be beautiful
Like you
Can be beautiful
Like you

Beautiful

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7NDh8f6VMc

Birdie said...

Wow, you ladies are all pretty amazing.
Man, this shit just never stops,does it? It is beyond ridiculous at this point. You can say it 20 different ways and speculate forever, but this crap will be dragged out as long as there is money to be made. People are just heartless and I am talking about the media, the haters and the "business" that is Hollywood. Unfortunately, Kristen and Rob have to ride out this storm and it probably won't end until after BD2 or until some other poor,unsuspecting person takes the spotlight.
I am tired and saturated. I cannot imagine what they are living. I, like Rose, have faith that it will be OK in time.
Kudos to Jodie Foster! I know I can only form opinions from the tidbits of what we see but I continue to believe that Rob and Kristen are good people. I hope that this insanity does not change the fundamental things that have made them different from so many others.So if I can say anything as a fan:

Kristen,
You may have faltered, but I don't think that is who you are. I hope you can remain true to yourself and take it back. I believe the characteristics that made me admire you are there inside. Don't let them win.

Rob,
Go out there and shine today! Don't give them anything you don't want to.

Have a lovely day Roseland!

Em said...

Oneheart yea Em is like wow he's one of my favorites n I don't like rap music that much but his stuff so good! n ur right songs have like messages n can help I have this song I play it like everyday is like first thing n always cry w it doesn't matter that first time I hear it I'm like it just is special lol Im a dork I know. Anyway just wanted to say good morning u guys r great n love that u stand up for what u believe not everyone does so that's pretty amazing! gotta get moving now I'm like on n hour sleep n looking kinda rough lol pretty early here but have stuff to do
Dreamer stay adorable u must be snoozing sweet dreams

Annie said...

I can view GMA where I am.. .........
Talk about milking the life out of Rob's appearance....
I think I'm going to be ill!

Dottie said...

Good morning gang!

I wonder how many comments this blog will have when Rose returns? :D

I hope everyone has a great Hump Day.

Lots of love!

Maria said...

Damn...I am going to miss his interview! My son has an orthodontist appt this morning.

Hate when GMA drags it out.

Anonymous said...

Wow, there are a lot of comments to check up on.

Just watched Rob and he handled the awkward situation well. He looks the same, but different, weary maybe, sad, I don't know. I wish they would just let him talk about his movie instead of always prodding.

After reading all the advice to Perdido I have to say I've had a change of heart. I started out so angry at Kristen and then I became indifferent. Now I feel sad, sad that she gave in to whatever happened, sad that she can't present her side and sad for both her and Rob that the public won't let this just go away. I'm have no wisdom to share because I have no life experience that compares to any of this.

All I can offer is sappy as it sounds, I hope that both Rob and Kristen just follow where their heart leads them.

Jade said...

@ Tempest. How did you become so wise? Even more impressive than that is your empathy.
@ Monica. Where do you live in Asia? I reside in the suburbs of Washington D.C. but regularly visit family in Malaysia, Singapore and Hong Kong. I recall seeing your post at Ateo Ofie's.

Karen in NJ said...

I watched the interview also and I thought the only "elephant in the room" is the one the interviewer put there. If he would've just talked about the movie Rob would've been fine but he had to go there, geesh. And Rob handled it only as Rob does. I am hoping this week and being with DC (who is so calm) has done him some good. My heart still bleeds for him, Kristen too. I am also hoping if he would talk to ANYONE about this it would be Josh. Not that I think he needs to or it's our business but he's comfortable with him.

Happy Wednesday everyone!
Happy

angelica1 said...

Luckystrike - Rob's doing a great job but why they think someone so private is going to suddenly start spilling his guts now is beyond me.Hhe must be weary of them pushing it. Hopefully the Q & A and Josh Horowitz will stick to work questions

Annie said...

I just couldn't watch the interview.

Did Rob really say ...."Stay out of my personal life."

If he did..........I'll be happy with that. I'll be happy with that.

Melinda said...

Morning and happy hump day....

Really happy to see all the great reviews coming out now that people have seen Cosmopolis. If it ever comes my way I will be seeing it. I'm preparing myself for disappointment though b/c I don't think it will come near me.

I'll have to catch the GMA segment online which is probably just as well. Then I don't have to wade through mindless chatter to hear what him talk about the film.
I haven't been able to catch up on all the stuff from yesterday with interviews and such. Still so cool that he got to ring the bell at the NYSE. I swear only Rob can get the NYSE to trend on twitter.

Love Jodie Foster and what she had to say. She is very respected in HW and I do think her words carry weight. Thanks for sharing Annie and DK. It's nice to see HW speaking out. Sophia Bush took to twitter to say how she felt about Universal's announcement. The apparent sexism that is being showed is horrid. That pisses me off.

I want to be clear that people speaking out doesn't take away from the fact that there is still one person in this thing who really isn't at fault and he still has to deal with it. For that I want to hug him b/c he is a good guy.

I want them to both be happy again wherever the road leads them...

Anonymous said...

Angelica,
I agree that Rob will be more comfortable with Josh. Josh is a fan but he's respectful and he won't push. I do agree with Karen tho that if Rob wanted to get a message of any kind out there, I think Josh would be the one to get it. I'm not expecting any personal info though because that is not his style.

angelica1 said...

Annie - I haven't watched it yet but I'm told he said."I got into this to talk about movies,I'm not interested in selling my personal life"

Annie said...

@Angelica:Ok..... Thanks.

It's taking me forever to load these comments on my phone, so I'll sign off for now.

Anonymous said...

Great job Rob, you are right, it about your career NOT your personal life. Good for you for driving that point home and telling the world what they should hear. Let's just hope they get!

LizzieD said...

Hi All,

I think Rob was great!!! HOWEVER, I caught a note of belligerance in his tone, not necessarily toward George but toward the media in general when making the comments about how the paps should follow the "powerful" people of the world.

I think he saw/heard about all that stuff last night of Universal "dropping" Kristen and it has angered him. As David C. said in that interview yesterday, no one knows what happened. But, I'm sure Rob knows what happened.

Anyway, I'm not quite twirling yet, but I think he's going to forgive her. I also am thinking that they SHOULD show up at the VMA's to show a united front for BD2 and it will relieve a lot of pressure from both of them.

Liz in LaLa Land!!! COME JOIN ME!!

Litmom said...

Hey Roseland-
My goodness - I don't know how you folks do it - do some of you ever sleep? I came back this morning, and have 200 comments to read!

Again, I am amazed at the wisdom and compassion here. Kristen is a beautiful, talented young woman who is going to have a brilliant life and career - and so many of us here are a stronghold of love and support for her.

And Rob - so thrilled for all of the wonderful opportunities being presented to him. So proud of the way he is handling this week.

SWATH info - I have come to the conclusion that I cannot believe ANYTHING I read, see, or hear in the media. Everyone has an agenda, and no one reports truth anymore. Scum.

And my brief, simplistic message to sweet Kristen - an old song my Grandma used to sing to me when things went wack -
"Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again."

Litmom said...
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Monica said...

Jodie Foster is a real class act. Finally someone speaks up and I know it will be her. Hell yeah, chin up Kristen!!~~

@Jade, yes, I visit a few blogs and that's my daily routine. I go by "Mon", "Monica" or "Monica from Asia" in those blogs. I'm from Hong Kong. Rob and Kristen / Twilight are not very popular here. I guess I am one of those few big fans. :P

Monica from Asia

ali mac said...

WOW, it's taken me most of the morning on and off to get caught up with all these comments.

DK I had that If poem on a poster on my wall as a teenager, I love it!!

MARLEY It was nice to see you here, sorry I missed you.

I found the GMA interview very uncomfortable, the box of cereal was so stupid and childish!!! Just leave him alone and ask about the movie :0(

From all the comments last night there is still alot of presumption going on on all sides of the debate.

The equality of women issue is so annoying, will we ever be treated equally?!?

ali mac said...

The Jodie Foster article should be required reading for everyone!! It made me feel bad for any small part I've played in this whole scenario!!

Monica said...

@ali mac, no sadly. This is a sexist world. One reason I love Kristen is that I always consider her a symbol of individualism and feminism.

Monica from Asia

Leni said...

The GMA interview was really uncomfortable at the beginning but I thought that Rob handled it great by refusing to talk about his personal life.

Just when I think that my love and admiration for Jodie Foster cannot grow she writes such a beautiful article <3

I'm also very thankful for David Cronenberg's comments!

Congrats to Rob on his new movie role!

Tempest - I love your comments, thanks for coming here :)

I really miss Rose!

Have a great day everybody :)

rxlady60 said...

@Monica

ITA...this is still a man's world and i don't understand the double standard in our society and so devastated that the first in line to crucify Kristen are bunch of self-righteous women that no matter what she do they wont forgive her and no second chance for her at all.
Please Kristen is down already let's not kick her more.

Good Morning to all beautiful people of Roseland.

KEEP THE FAITH

Robert is such a gentleman but i think he needs to find an answer to "how are you doing question" just my opinion

PamH said...

Good morning all

This is the first chance I've had in the last two days to catch up reading comments and watching TDS and GMA. After watching both shows I feel Rob did wonderful, to me, he hasn't gave any indication one way or another of his relationship status or added to all the negative feelings people have toward Kristen. I LOVE HIM EVEN MORE FOR THAT!!!!!!!! I felt that JS expressed his feeling about what he thought but Rob didn't really agree or disagree, he was just his normal self during any interview.
And as for GMA I feel he decided he wasn't giving them anything personal GOOD FOR HIM!!!!!!!! And letting it be known his feeling on it's not anyone's business other than his work.

He does seem to have a saddness just under the surface in the photos of him out in NYC, but on the other hand they are papp photos, so maybe he's just p****d off.

Glad DC will be with him during Q&A I feel he will have Robs back.

I just kept thinking, while watching the shows and looking at all the photos, I wonder if Kristen is watching also? To see how he is REALLY, how the media and fans are treating him, and to just look at him. I would if I were her.
Someone commented earlier about wanting them to appear at VMAs together. I agree I think that would really stick it to a lot of people :-) I'm not saying as a couple together ( that's for them to decide and work out) but just as a way to say we still love and care about each other and our work together and can put things aside and be adults SO ENOUGH WITH ALL THE HATE!!!!
I do wish we knew how Kristen is doing and could see her.

Enough for now
Sorry so long

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Ginger with a Soul said...

They actually have a radio station that is in Time Square with a Kristen Pinata and are asking Rob's fans to come take a swing - WTF? Does someone actually find that funny - see this what happens when no one stops the shit - it escalates and people begin to think it is ok to go to even more extremes. I got a bat for that DJ

Anonymous said...

I've read the Jodie Foster article and I can see why she wrote it but I don't think it helps. Anytime someone comes forward like that it starts the whole thing up all over again because there are always 2 sides, some like it, some don't. And with social media it's too easy to voice an opinion.

I read a comment here a long time ago that said they thoughtRob and Kristen were the first internet couple. In a way that's true. Twitter really became a force in 2008 and that was the beginning of Twilight. They have been caught up in the public eye for so long because their popularity has been fed by the accessibility of the internet. This is why we can't really compare it to Brangelina, definitely not Elizabeth Taylor. Scrutiny of this situation will not end until everyone shuts up about it and that's not going to happen for a long time.

Can you imagine if Twitter just stopped working for 5 days?

Good morning Ginger!

Leni said...

Ginger - Are you serious? That is so fucked up..

Ginger with a Soul said...

@Leni

923NOW ‏@923NowFM

We r in Times Square hanging out w/Rob Pattinson on GMA! Come down, let's beat up some <3 pinatas and win prizes! #heartbreak @luluylala

If they are doing it with him present I might actually throw up at my desk. How this is not bordering on criminal I have no idea but this is so fucking out of control.


LizzieD said...

PamH -- I'm glad you agree with me about them showing up together on VMA's. Doesn't have to be a couple, just be friends. I think it would take a lot of stress off of Kristen for her first time public to be with him and him showing respect for her and possibly "acceptance" of her.

Monica said...

@Ginger, that's utter ridicious!! If I was a passer-by, I'd say I don't want to punch Kristen but I would like to punch who the hell set that up!!

Monica from Asia


ali mac said...

Ginger that is sick, I hope these people have trouble sleeping at night!!!

Ginger with a Soul said...

@Lucky - morning :)

I wish the internet would implode. It has given people the ability to be nasty and bullies that otherwise wouldn't dare say a word to someones face. If you don't have the balls to actually say it to the person then we sure in the hell should not type it hidden like a coward behind a computer. It may be easier for me to say that cause I am a pretty straight forward person.

I think more people need to stand up and come out - they don't even need to address the situation but stand up for her as a person. We all have our opinions on the "situation" and things have been grossly exaggerated in the media. I look at the pictures and I can't even "see" a kiss - her back is to me so it is an assumption. This is no longer about what she did, if she did, or what she did - it is about how could she do anything wrong to Rob.


Where the fuck is her PR team - I mean someone needs to get a handle on this and even if she is saying not to - how can they sit by and watch her self destruct and allow this to keep going.

rxlady60 said...

@Ginger

If its true that's really way below the belt and barbaric.
My heart ache for MamaStew I have a 22 year old daughter too and I can feel her pain
When will it stop? until Kristen's young heart stop beating?
Sorry guys if I'm getting so dramatic I can't help it

Leni said...

Ginger - I have no words..

Ali - Sadly I doubt that they have trouble sleeping

Annie said...

@Ginger:
I am at a lost to find words for how Kristen Stewart is being treated and how this is being allowed to continue.

I have NEVER, EVER seen anything like this.
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Please tell me that Rob was not a participant with 92.3 in that stunt...... I refuse to believe he would be.

Annie said...

How can anyone, ANYONE let hate like this slide?
How can you?

Anonymous said...

Ginger,
What you just said is why I thought yesterday that she needs to speak up. I'm afraid she is just retreating now and feeling defeated.

I can understand the scenario that Perdido used as an explanation because I've been there with a coworker and you don't really want to be obnoxious because you like the guy so you joke it away. It's the 2 episodes that don't sit we'll with people. The awkward kiss, ok brush him off and leave. It's the follow up embrace that is giving it more weight. She just didn't handle it right but I'm sure she knows that now.

That piñata if real is sick. If they do that in front of Rob I hope he uses their heads as a piñata.

Ginger with a Soul said...

@ rxlady60 - I don't think you are being dramatic - hell Foster is saying the same thing - how far and to what result are they willing to push this

angelica1 said...

Luckystrike - I don't necessarily disagree with you.I think her team has handled things badly. I just go back and forth on it because I wonder what she could say that doesn't have the potential to make things worse.

Ginger with a Soul said...

@Annie - I highly doubt Rob is there but the pinata is very real and women are getting T-Shirts to take a swing to break it. If I was there I swear to all that is holy I would ask people what the fuck is wrong with them - this is not funny and promoting violence and justifying the hate at this level for ratings is immoral. The backlash is coming - I think Hollywood is going to start coming forward in her support because this is going to far - that train left the station 100 articles ago.

Annie said...

Kristen Stewart: You cannot believe you deserve this!

Girl, I know you hurt but .......Get up!
Dust yourself off!

Know how many of us believe in you!

Will not desert you!

We understand and many of us have been through the same and worse than you and survived it.

Ignore the puritanical/holier-than-thou- hateful bullshit! That is what it is.
Those who are so full of themselves couldn't stand up to the same scrutiny and the fact they're screaming the loudest makes me sick!

Please don't let this define you or break you!

Annie said...

Is no one there even criticizing this..........NY'ers are actively participating in this?

I have to get going again.......

What have we become as a society. WHAT?

angelica1 said...

Annie - The radio station's twitter is being absolutely hammered by outraged Kristen fans. Someone has taken pictures, she says she's going to sleep on it and decide tomorrow whether to post them online because apparently these women are "distinctive"

Anonymous said...

Angelica

I don't know where my comment to you just went. It appeared to go out from my email.

Is that possible?

That's what I get for using my iPad to comment.

angelica1 said...

Luckystrike - Sometimes they go to Rose's spam folder I think :)

Anonymous said...

Angelica,

I think I know what happened. Anyway, not that it's all that profound but this is what I was tring to say about Kristen speaking up.

I don't know what should be said by her except maybe just the truth.  Since everyone speculates and it doesn't seem to be going away, maybe the truth will set her free.  

I'd quote that but I don't know the origin of it, business major not literature, lol.

Anonymous said...

hi guys,
this is on my phone so put up with strange formatting please. just wanted to say you are all very sweet and so fucking kind. I think karma is real and therefore you should all have wonderful things happen because i don't think anyone else is forgiving Kris for what she did and the trouble it caused.
Tempest-i just had to page through a bunch of comments to figure out you are some sort of doctor or something bc i saw people saying they can't afford you. i read your advice and thoughts about this this with Kristen. as background not long ago i saw a doctor/therapy person for the first time and wasn't really anxious but thought it might help and everyone was insisting. i hope this makes you laugh not think im like insulting your profession but the guy kept asking stuff and then interrupting to like "sum up" what i said but he kept getting it wrong. then he got focused on if i take baths or shwoers and i thought he was kind of being perverted but he told me my 'assignment" was to take baths bc i had to not try to wash away things but sit and accept them. i tried really hard not to laugh bc like a friend of mine loves the guy and pulled strings and shit but i said i had to go to the bathroom and ran out the door. anyway, thanks for sharing what you would say to kris because it must have taken some time to write it all and explain it so it made sense. I think alot of it is like you being kind because you have a big heart. The one thing that isn't right is that Rob has some obligation or duty to help. He doesn't owe her anything. I think she's always tried to give him good advice and to help him despite what she did to hurt him. Despite what people see into it she loves him so fucking much and the best way to do that is stay away. Watching him today on GMA have to deal with the brainless and inane fucking cereal shit, god what do they want from him? It is fucking bullshit that they are making him pay for her mistakes. Making him uncomfortable when he did NOTHING but be a good person. He's not to blame at all. He's wonderful and kind and smart and deserves to be free of all this mess. The last thing he should have to do after dealing with all that is continue to have to deal with someone who poisons him.
At least he can be free for awhile after this and just have fun or do whatever he needs to do. I hope people let him and let this go bc it has nothing to do with him.
The thing is that you guys are amazing bc you have kind hearts but the rest of the people who care don't see it this way. they believe the story the way it was told and they think she should get pinatas and hate and jokes. Its just what it is but like I said, you all have good karma coming because of how you are so sweet and good.

Anonymous said...

Ok i cant write on the phone well and can't delete to try to fix it. I'm sorry-I'm not illiterate just hard to do this way. sorry!

ali mac said...

PERDIDO I don't know what way to take you, you are saying nice things about the people here but in along with it you are slipping in nasty things about Kristen? Is this just my imagination???

She did a bad thing, she apologised, she didn't do it to you or me. End of story.

angelica1 said...

Perdido - Hi Sweetie,

No one with a working brain doubts how much Kristen loves him but IF she still loves him that much then she owes it to him to at least have a say in the decision about whether or not he should be with her otherwise, if she just ignores his wishes,she's just compounding the hurt and I truly believe that's the last thing she would ever want to do. it doesn't have to be an immediate decision on way or another but don't you think she owes him that much?

angelica1 said...

Ali Mac - It's Ok, I promise :)

Monica said...

@Perdido, Rob didn't pay for Kristen's mistakes like you said. It those a-holes who made cruel jokes and pulled off that cereal shit. Kristen is also the victim. If anyone who should be blamed, it should be those insensitive people and the media.

Monica from Asia

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LizzieD said...

@ali mac -- I agree with what you said about Perdido.

@perdido -- Like Ali Mac, I am not sure of your "agenda" as it appears you have an unlying dislike (being kind here) for Kristen and her "mistake." As for Rob not being a part of this... HAVE YOU BEEN BURIED UNDER A ROCK FOR THE PAST 4 YEARS??? He loves her like none of us have ever seen a man love a woman and that is what has created this vortex that they live in. Whatever her feelings for him are doesn't matter, they were together, probably still are together and as Rose is fond of saying, Rob & Kristen always end up together.

I believe Rob and his people all know the real story like we never will. He can't get away from this any more than he could get away from the questions always asked about their relationship.

ali mac said...

Thanks Angelica, I think I'm getting paranoid! :0(

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LizzieD said...

@Perdido -- another example of "why does Rob have to put with this"..... It's been 7 years since Anniston and Pitt split up AND THE SPECULATION NEVER STOPS!!!

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Wildhart007 said...

Perdido
Fuck it! Kris is not poisonous!
Yes it breaks my heart hearing what Rob dealt with this morning. But I'm positive he would not condone the pinata stupidity. People are cruel.
Sometimes when you are hurting you have to take a chance and talk in person straight up.
It is something they both deserve and need.

Lunch is over.gotta go
Hugs and all my strength and prayers to you

Anonymous said...

Ali-just my opinion. i didn't mean anything bad.
Angelica -you again have this thing like to be kind but he doesn't deserve to be hurt and if they did try it would hurt him I think. I think he's the sweetest most forgiving person and always thinks the best of her and wont make a decision that is good for him and his future. Lets face it the guy can have anyone in the world and there are better people he could start fresh and not have this shit following him forever. I think if she really loves him she wants that even if it hurts him now or takes time. Maybe friends someday but he shouldn't have to hurt anymore. He didn't do anything but try to be good to her.

katy said...

Ditto to what Rhoda said


Maria said...

@Perdido...I understand what you're saying, but I don't agree because I don't see it helping the situation if he turns his back on her.
Yes, he's been hurt because of her indiscretion. If he knows the truth now, especially if its anywhere close to what we have been speculating, then he can't turn his back on someone he loves, even if by public appearances she has wronged him.

What type of person would he be if he chose to avoid being tainted by her reputation, by creating as much distance between them as possible? This wouldn't be for his own sanity, it would be for his career. I'm sure his agent may have broached the idea with him, but can you honestly picture Rob abandoning her in her time of need? I can't. I believe his conscience won't let him.

When you turn your back on someone in their greatest time of need, especially when that very person has been your biggest supporter, how does that define YOU as a person?

Do you see what I am trying to say? The Rob that we know will not do that to her.

Rhonda said...

Sorry, for any typos...I'm using my phone too ;)

Hi everyone- I hope you're having a great day. I'm working but will try and peek back in later...:)

angelica1 said...

Dottie - You are actually spot on. If they decide to stay together and that's "confirmed" in the usual quirky Rob and Kristen way, that will calm this frenzy very quickly I think.People had begun to realise that Rob and Kristen were as "boring" as they kept insisting,in the nicest possible way and once the "are they/aren't they" was put to bed it became far less newsworthy. I think on the one hand it will increase admiration for Rob even further, it takes a special person to stand by someone they love through thick and thin, it'll just gain him even more fans - sane ones this time. Also,if he's away from Kristen, i think he'll be hounded to death by paps trying to link him with every female on the planet and I'm sure that's the very last thing he wants or needs.

Ginger with a Soul said...

@Perdido - I get your absolute support of Rob but Kristen is not poison - she is a very real person who makes very real mistakes, good/bad choices, and will trip, stumble and fall - I doubt this will be the last obstacle that will be in her life. Rob is not God nor does he walk on water - he is a very real person too and I think the media asking him in every single interview if he is ok is not only unprofessional but pathetic. I think it is unfair to now to say she is tainting him when not to long ago we all know she was promoting him and was a partner in his career and life.

Kristen is not the anti-Christ.

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katy said...

Perdido, I cannot imagine anyone better for Rob then Kristen...she is the right person for Rob.

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Anonymous said...

Ok guys we're here and i have to go meet some people so take care of each other. I'll say again you guys are very sweet and kind even when its not easy Im sure.
Not sure if Rose sees this but if so I miss you so bad right now. I wish she was here bc she defends him really well and it reaches alot of people and maybe people would leave him alone more. Flip side is she is having a vacation she deserves in paradise right so happy for that.
bye

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Leni said...

Perdido - Kristen is not poisonous. She is the right person for Rob. And Rob is the right person for Kristen.

Dottie said...
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katy said...

Dottie, Agreed with you 100%

Maria said...

@Dottie...ITA...hopefully he'll be able to make her see that she's still a worthy person in his eyes.

Kay said...

Perdido - A lifetime of missing the person that you love more than anyone hurts a hell of a lot more than trying to work through the hard stuff now. It has to be both Rob and Kristen to decide if they want to fight for what they've found in each other, not the media, the haters or anyone else.

ali mac said...

One thing I am sick of is because a good majority on this blog decided not to behave like Judge and Jury and sentence Kristen to live forever under some rock, we have somehow not defended Rob. We love Rob we want him to be happy, whatever he decide to do to make himself happy is his decision. (here ends my rant)

ali mac said...

Dk if your about we could do with some soothing mellow tunes :0)

ali mac said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDIzWI6c0VI&feature=related

Sade "Lovers Rock"

This is one of my favourite albums to listen to when I need to feel mellow, run a bubble bath and stick it on, bliss :0)

You're the one
The one I swim to in a storm
Like a lovers rock

I am in the wilderness
You are in the music
In the man's car next to me
Somewhere in my sadness
I know I won't fall apart completely

And in all this
And in all my life

You are the lovers rock
The rock that I cling to
You're the one
The one I swim to in a storm
Like a lovers rock

You are the lovers rock
The rock that I cling to
You're the one
The one I swim to in a storm
Like a lovers rock

When I need to be rescued you're there
When I need a place to swim to in a storm
I sing to you
And all my life
And in all my life

You are the lovers rock
The rock that I cling to
You're the one
The one I swim to in a storm
Like a lovers rock

Dottie said...

I miss Rose and Syd today. Is there a bat signal or something we can shine? :)

Kay said...

Ali - I most definitely care about and support Rob, I'm sorry if in my defense of Kristen that I haven't given that impression. I truly want Rob to be happy....it is just my opinion that he is happiest with Kristen in his life, even though there is a lot of crappy stuff going on because of what happened.

wig4usc said...

Hello, Roseland!

I just couldn't go through all the comments, up to 883!

I watched both of Rob's interviews. The cheesy way they both tried to approach this, at least Jon's was a little funny. But you make the joke and move on. Yikes.

I haven't read anything new about KS, looks like I missed something. NO doubt, this is a lynching of sorts. Make her wear her scarlet letter. She bears the public shame, Rupig does not. She was not married, he is. Life is not fair, never has been, never will be. At the same time, we need to stand together and not feed the beast.

I'm preaching to the choir, I imagine most/all of us agree. What I find particularly interesting is when commenters on some of these articles/sites make wide-sweeping assessments of the person, not the behavior. They are behaving as bad, if not worse, than what they're criticizing! Hypocrites, the world is full of them.

Good for Rob sticking it back to them in his humorous way, making it clear why he's there is to discuss the movie!

ali mac said...

Hi KAY, I Think 99% of people here do, but we are being accused quite a lot of not caring about him, which is madness.

Anonymous said...

Perdido,

Three weeks ago I would have been the first to say, "Damn right, she'd better stay away from Rob." But I've seen him looking weary and sad and I can't think this is what he wants.

I understand that Kristen wants to do her penance and she thinks letting go of Rob is the best way, but this isn't really about what she wants anymore. Kristen made a bad choice, on her own without Rob's knowledge or input. She shouldn't do the same again. Instead of playing the martyr, she owes him the chance to make his own choice and if it's to be with her, then she should thank God that he is the man he is. He deserves to have that option.

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wig4usc said...

One thing I do grow weary of...quick venting. Reading Perdido's comment brought this to the surface.

Rob is a grown ass man. He doesn't need us to coddle him, wring our hands, etc. In support of him, and I get that's the motive her, but while sympathizing, they make him out to be this spineless wimp of a man who can't make rational decisions. Huh?

Its completely patronizing. If you truly support Rob and wish him well, give him some consideration, at a minimum, for being a self-sufficient adult!

marley said...

Once again I agree with Dottie and angelica1. well said.

ali mac we are still very much so supporting Rob, we've never stopped.

Perdido I enjoyed your slight sense of humor shine through durring your story and I wouldn't have kept my self from laughing and I would have left the same way. I hope today is a better day and as everyone says "there is always hope"

Happy Hump Day!!

katy said...

I beyond LOVE and SUPPORT, Rob and I've always and always will defend him. And people who think otherwise just because, I dind't start hating Kristen, can go to hell.

Anonymous said...

Ok, hold the presses, what in the hell?

Warning, there is going to be some swearing in this post.

What in the fuck is going on with the pinata? I swear to God if I was there I would pretend to go along with it and get the bat in my hand and go crazy hitting the person who came up with this fucking stunt. What the hell is wrong with you fuck ups at GMA? I will NEVER watch that show again, no matter what. Jesus Mary and Joseph.

Ok, times up, Kristen needs to get her fucking lawyer going after these people. This cannot be legal!!!

Holy Mother of God. Kristen better not be thinking that Rob is better off with out her because THAT IS JUST CRAZY! The only thing wrong with Kristen is that she would actually think that.

Dottie, thanks for your posts and I agree completely.

tempest is full of wise words as well as being an expert in her field and yes she is a doctor. I am also in the medical field and know a few things and I can tell you that doctor Perdido saw is full of fucking shit. I am a nice middle aged woman as well as a professional, but am going to blow my top over the crap that is going on.

If Rob leaves Kristen over this than he is NOT the man I thought he was and Kristen better not be believing ANY of this crap about herself.

Jade said...

I was on tumblr this morning when another hateful post pretty much ruined my appetite for the breakfast souffle I adored. Someone is gleefully recruiting a "boo brigade" for the Breaking Dawn premier, excitedly gushing over how to make Kristen miserable and crack. In almost the same breath, she reminds her would be minions to "show their love for Rob" and hope that he comes with a date. How is someone who gets so much pleasure in humiliating a young lady who's already paying dearly, even able to understand love? This is unrelated, but I remembered a disturbing historical photo of people gathered around a lynched and burnt corpse of an African American man, with serene smiles and pure enjoyment on their faces as they picnicked. The complete disassociation from the heinous murder is as disturbing as the corpse. @ Tempest, I can't afford you either, but what is it about mob mentality that drives some to regress in morality? It seems like this scandal has birthed this insatiable need for many to drive Kristen to do something terrible to herself.

Anonymous said...

meadowgirl,

I think I understand where you might be coming from but I have taken issue with this before and I'm going to again.

I DO NOT think Rob's decision to be or not be with Kristen should be a reflection on his character and it is totally wrong to say that he is not the man you thought if he doesn't take her back.

Anonymous said...

Luckystrike,

you are correct, i don't know what is going on with Rob or any details about the situation other than the pinata set me off. I would delete what I said about Rob but don't know how to edit my post. So until I can figure out how to delete that, I will take that part back about what I said about Rob.

Super RN Gas Passer said...

Good Afternoon ROSELAND

I had the opportunity to watch Rob this morning and again, he is staying focused on Cosmopolis...

PERDITO and ALL

I am on a short lunch break. Since we are kind of looking at this situation from many angles I want to say my two cents about these Holier- than- Thou People. I am 56 years old so I have seen them in all walks...in church, at work ...Bottom line....THEY ARE BULLIES full of righteous indignation and they use the flaws in others to try to make themselves feel better because of their own self esteem issues!

Beware of these type of people...they are everywhere...I know, I know....some people are going to say we are trying to make light of this....NO...HOWEVER...MY GOD...IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, SHE DIDN'T FVCKING MURDER THE POPE..!!!!!! Everything is going to be alright for Kristen IF SHE will put things in perspective and FORGIVE HERSELF for being young and maybe somewhat naive...BUT THAT'S PART OF BEING YOUNG!!!!
So I leave you from some lyrics...Beware of Darkness
George Harrison

Watch out now ,take care
Beware of falling swingers
Dropping all around you
The pain that often mingles in your fingertips
Beware of darkness

Watch out now, take care
Beware of the thoughts that linger
Winding up inside your head
The hopelessness around you
In the dead of night

Beware of sadness
It can hit you
It can hurt you
Make you sore and what is more
That is not what you are here for

Watch out now, take care
Beware of soft shoe shufflers
Dancing down the sidewalks
As each unconscious sufferer
Wanders aimlessly
Beware of maya

Watch out now, take care
Beware of greedy leaders
They take you where you should not go
While weeping atlas cedars
They just want to grow and grow and grow
Beware of darkness

Anonymous said...

Thank you, meadowgirl. It's something that really sets me off. It's all good.

To delete there is a trash can under your comment. Just click on it.

Anonymous said...

thanks luckystrike. i see no trash can under my comment!

Karen in NJ said...

Did anyone hear that this morning Rob was signing autographs and they started bashing Kristen and he stopped signing? Also read (twitter) he said "back off". I think it was from someone who was there. Didn't David say "no one really know"?

Em said...

wow this comments r fast okay I need u to see this bc can u look for m? Plz? I have to talk to u bye

Dottie said...
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Em said...

it's from my phone sorry cant type or spell but just txt me plz ilu

ali mac said...

Just in case any body read my comment about supporting Rob wrong, I am not accusing anyone here of not supporting him, I was simply pointing out that I was fed up with people commenting here that we weren't supporting him, which is not the case.

Anonymous said...

Hi dottie, thx. I am so sorry I hope my post did not offend anyone here. OMG i cant figure out how to delete it. Of course Rob is not going to put up with the Kristen bashing and he has to promote his movie and I commend him for how he is dealing with all of this.

Anonymous said...

I love them both and support them both.

SweetLilDream said...

@Perdido

If Kristen thinks that because she made a mistake she should be punished forever and it's better for Rob to stay away from her, I'm sorry, but she isn't giving him much credit. I like to think that Rob is not a delicate flower that needs to be protected from everything and everyone. He's a strong man, can't you see that?
If Kristen really loves him and really regrets her mistake, she will try very hard to not hurt him again. How do you know that some random woman that he may meet and fall in love with will not hurt him too?

I guarantee you that if Rob decides to stay with her, he will be admired even more than he already is.

Anonymous said...

meadowgirl,

You can't delete from the page where you post, you have to do it from the main blog page.

Don't worry about it. There are so many comments before and after it that it isn't just sitting there like a neon light or anything.

Maria said...

Where r people getting that she's definitely pushing him away? Have I missed something? Things have been crazy busy since thr weekend for me and I haven't checked out other sites other than here. Is this news thru twitter?

Leni said...

Ali - Don't worry ;)
I wrote something similar yesterday. I think we are all just defending her because she gets so much hate from everywhere. It's clear that we don't want Rob to be hurting, but Kristen doesn't deserve the hate directed towards her either. If someone came on here and said vile things about Rob we all would tell them to "fuck off" immediately.

Anonymous said...

Maria,

Someone was just speculating that that is what she will do and, of course, we all jump in to offer our opinion. There's nothing official or anything like that.

Leni said...

Maria - I was asking myself the same thing. That is just speculation, right?

Leni said...

Thanks Lucky :)

Anonymous said...

luckystrike, thanks, i will keep trying to figure it out. I'm not seeing how to do it! I do not want to add any grief to this whole situation. Plz forgive me

SueBee said...

Just my two cents, but in my experience, you fight for love.

Just my humble opinion, but if I had screwed up to that degree, I would do my best to face my mistakes and atone for them.

Running away solves nothing. In what universe does giving Rob some space allow him to have fun? Does he look like he's having fun???

Love isn't all sunshine and lollipops. Sometimes, it hurts. Sometimes it takes every last bit of strength to fight for a relationship.

If the person you wronged is willing to work on mending your relationship, giving up is a cop out, not taking the high road.

Perdidio, I don't know you...or wait...do I? I'm just backing this rant with a 20 year marriage as life experience.

Love, real love, means fighting tooth and nail to make things right. If walking away seems the better path, no matter what Rob wants, then it isn't being done for HIM. It's just the path of pride and least resistance.

Maria said...

ah...okay.

ali mac said...

thanks Leni x

Anonymous said...

I agree with Perdido, I wish Rose were here because like Perdido pointed out no one defends him quite as well as she does, except of course Kristen herself.

The way I choose to see this in my naive way, is simply, Kristen would never, ever want to see anyone putting down Rob in order to defend her. Plain and simple.

I have seen wonderful and amazing people who have carried the banner for Kristen and compassion since this entire thing began who mean well, but sometimes good intentions can go to hell in a hand basket. There have been moments in the heat of the moment when for whatever reason Rob has ended up being the one with responsibility thrust upon his shoulders to say or do something. Some grand gesture he needs to make, there must have been something he did to cause this to happen. Which is really unfair to Rob and to Kristen, I think a lot of us have wanted to come right out and say that but haven't been willing to until right now.


Tearing Rob apart HURTS Kristen, she loves him, right, wrong, no matter what has happened SHE loves HIM. And as Perdido is pointing out with her very astute comments is this Kristen would rather the wrath of the world descend upon her shoulders right now than to have Rob get one tiny piece of mud on him. It's admirable.

I also believe tearing her apart would hurt Rob, regardless of what has happened he still has love for her.

I agree with Lucky that Kristen needs to take care of her life, her love, what is best for both her and Rob TOGETHER because and not give a flying 'fuck' about what the rest of the world or Hollywood wants. Because Sweetie playing the marytr never ends well. If I could give Kristen advice, and of course that's silly of me to even say that, but bear with me because if I could then this is what I'd say:


You screwed up, royally. Now it's time to get up, stand the hell up. You made a bad choice, there are consequences because of that, but don't let anyone make you feel lik you have to lock yourself in a room and beat yourself up. Come on You're fucking tougher than that!
From here on out the only person whose opinon or concerns matter about this is Rob's and of course yours. Do NOT let the world dictate to you on how you should or should not behave. You owe no one else on this earth a fucking thing. So get up off your rear and get back to life because even though you fucked up and I am angry as hell about it, you didn't murder anyone it's not unforgiveable. The only thing that I think the world would like is for you to REMEMBER this time and don't make the same mistake again.

Then I would end with this to Kristen.

I know this seems horrible to you right now, but I remember someone talking about Elizabeth Taylor and her 'scandals'. What SHE did was a billon times worse than anything you could have even imagined. She took one of her closest friend's husbands away without thought or remorse as it was going on. And as much as the world LOVES Rob, they loved and love Debbie Reynolds a hell of a lot more. Elizabeth Taylor was wrong, she knew that later, but as the scandal was exploding around her she kept her head up and kept right on going. I think we can all agree it worked out pretty good for her and her career. She won an Oscar that year.

I think that while a lot of people want to help the public put this whole thing into perspecttive, they need to realize that sometimes it's better to let sleeping dogs lie and not keep waking them up.

Ginger with a Soul said...

I am sorry but I don't believe for one second Kristen does not want him back - that statement she said that everyone is flinging mud at showed her laying her self on the cross for the man. She did not worry about her parents, her siblings, her career - she worried about ROB. He is the single most important person to her - those are her words - words that left her room for further attack but words that are meant to let someone know she is fighting for him. She has dropped things that were once her priority to deal with the real priority in her life. His schedule appears to be open now too - maybe to work on each person perceptively or to take a step back to work on them.

If the "stories" floating around are to be true he got very angry with a fan that choose to insult Kristen too him.

Freddie said...

Perdido – you really shouldn’t be so hard on Kristen. I confess I was angry with her when this thing first came to light, but as more and more of the puzzle was pieced together by smart, csi-like people (like Real Pr Pro and her friends), I’ve come to understand that the situation was not as represented and that my initial anger was terribly, terribly misplaced. And I think your feelings about Kristen are equally misplaced. She is not poison and is so deserving of forgiveness – but as others have suggested, it seems that she needs to forgive herself more than anything. It makes me so incredibly sad to think that two people who love each other so deeply and who have been each other’s best friend, shield and support would end up apart just because of a well intended, but misguided decision on her part to protect him. There is no way that that is what is best for him. As others have noted, she is what is best for him, just as he is best for her.

In truth, my heart aches for her right now – and of course for lovely Rob. I feel like we are watching an accident in the making and I don’t know how to stop it.

I hope you seriously, seriously think about the comments that people have been making here and not just dismiss them out of hand. Your assessment of the situation, and of Kristen, is truly distorted (no offense) at this time.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if Rob will go home to London for a visit with his family. Glad his friend Bobby Long is there to support him. I think what I have taken away from this press for Cosmopolis is that Rob is very much his own MAN.

I don't think that anyone tells him what to do, not even Kristen. If he listened to her, then it was because he wanted to, not because he had to. Robert Pattinson is a very smart man, he has show that this week. I would say he is just about perfect in every way. What makes him so perfect to me is that he does not see himself as special - which he is. That to me is what makes him so very special.

He was blessed by God in the looks department, he is talented, funny, decent - I could go on. But this is what everyone that has worked with him or knows him says. So, on that note, I feel confident that Robert Pattinson will be just fine, no matter what. I think he has his head screwed on correctly and knows what he is doing with his life and career. Really think that we could all take a lesson from him. He's not just the adorkable Rob - he is the man Robert.

Wow! I am so proud of him and so happy that he will be just fine. I feel that in my heart after these last few days. Hope he never changes. He does NOT need to. He is special - never doubt that Rob, and this is not geared toward Edward. This is meant for you as Rob. (and before you guys start with the bashing, I am married to my own “Edward” and very happy) I just see something very special in this young man and I think this is why I got interested in his career to begin with. He has the” IT” factor, which I have not seen in a very long time. I for one cannot wait to see his career sore, and will be there to support him.

Love and Support to Rob!!!

Nina Pearl said...

@Melinda, Yes I know Angelina had her adopted son Pax at the time, but my point was Brad and Jen had no children, and therefore no children were involved in a split...Angelina was single at the time and Pax was not caught in the middle of being torn from what he knew...No broken home or broken family...

Robert said...

@rkyetta

so you like rob; is that what i'm hearing you say?

Anonymous said...

Its not that I think kris is pushing him. She's there and still trying to talk and be supportive and help probably closer than we know.
So all I meant is that she knows him. She could have murdered someone and I bet he would not turn away or distance himself. I don't think there is anything she could do to make him go.
So knowing that, I just think she has a responsibility to look at it honestly. Major players -studios, directors, other actors are saying that for projects , if she cares she stays away. One said she was poison and so she probably will stay away from promoting the things she has finished.
But she cares about Rob so if she's "poison" and will taint anything she associates with, then even if he is too forgiving and good, shouldn't she grow the fuck up and take the right path. Love him enough to not want him tainted more than he is? He's done the hard stuff this week-if he stays away there's no more ice cream and cereal, it will just be about his work.
I just had a meeting with people and this came up. The one guy is like a marketing/stats guy and said the general public, so not just people on twitter who are super into it, just the general public, think she had a long term affair with Sanders and she did it after befriending and knowing about his wife and kids. Comment was made that its not like typical "other women" where the guy lies to the girl and she doesn't know he's married-if it was that she would be more easily forgiven. They said the responsible thing if she cares about her projects is to stay away. I don't think the boo brigade will need to organize-she won't be there I bet.
I think there's alot of assumption about her just giving up. The thing is other people are involved and hurt by this stuff. People whose lives and careers and tons of money are tied up in it and they are all saying she's not bankable and she isn't welcome anymore. You are viewing it from a really rare place because alot of you are sweet and kind and forgiving but the general public isn't. People are much more invested and the response is more of a mob thing too. Like with Eliz. Taylor there wasn't twitter and all that so if people bought some magazine and gossiped so what? It didn't really influence the business as much but now they get on twitter and see the hate and judgement and make decisions based on that.

here's the best I can do to explain. Its like Kris went to their kitchen and took every dish in a cabinet and smashed them to shards. Imagine china/glass all over the floor like 4 inches deep. Now she has to put it all together again to try to go on with her life. People close to her stand there and shake their heads and are disgusted by the waste and stupidity of what she did. Some walk away. And once she did it the thing is that it doesn't matter if she meant to purposely destroy it all or if she had a fucking seizure and broke them all by accident. The reason is not the point, she did it and she's to blame. So she has to sit on the floor and start trying to put it together. Only it fucking hurts and she's cut again and again trying and people don't get that she is trying, they just don't want anything to do with her. So my thing about Rob is, if you were her, if you were sitting there in that mess and it hurt and you were getting cut and ridiculed for your stupid action, and you loved someone, would you seriously pull him into it with you? Do you drag the person you love so much in to so that he gets cut and hurt and everything else with you. Of course not, you tell him stay apart and you deal with it. You caused it, you deal with it and maybe he can help from the sidelines but you don't let him get hurt to-not if you love him. Its not playing the martyr or treating him like he's stupid. Its trying to do the right thing after fucking up so royally.

Anonymous said...

Rkyetta I cannot find one thing you said that anyone could bash or find fault with! I liked the fact you stressed that you care about Rob and it has nothing to do with the character he played.

I liked that.

Sue from Holland said...

Exactly @Maria thinking the same, what is this about Kristen pushing him away.

I feel sick to my stomach and I'm so g'damn pissed so FOUL language WARNING!
It's a witchhunt a fucking lynchparty, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS WORLD.
Pinata's? Baseball bats? Is everyone gonne mad? These bitches I would love to punch them in the face, "let's all hate Kristen and feel good about ourselves". Two faced $%&@*

These self-righteous reporters pretending to care for Rob, give me a break. Josh yes. Stewart maybe but all the others don't give a shit, they want to have the scoop of Rob opening up.
That's another thing, why the hell should he? You think he owes us anything? To please us? To make us feel better? You honestly think it's gonna make a change if he opens up? There is always a group who will hate him for it. It's a no win situation.
Leave him the hell alone. How many toe-crinching interviews he has to suffer through? He is uncomfortable, laughs nervously but hell I have total respect for him for not saying anything. HE DOES NOT WANT TO SELL HIS PRIVATE LIFE and opening up to some two bit reporter is exactly that, selling it.
We know shit and knowing Rob and Kristen we never will. Well GOOD FOR THEM!!!!
I am so angry.

Anonymous said...

Perdido,

We know Kristen is hurt. We know she is trying her best to rebuild. All we are saying is she should give Rob a chance if that is what he wants. Let him be the man he wants to be.

Robert said...

@perdido

if i had a meeting with kristen right now i would tell her this:

"face it flounder, ya fucked up ya trusted us"

and then i would ask her what are you gonna do about it. listen to your heart

good people sometimes do bad things it doesn't make them bad people

vent scream cry get it all out and then pick yourself up and take back your life

Litmom said...

Reading back over comments today and last night - even though I've already posted today...

Tempest - you are a genius. I hope that your words somehow find their way into the hearts that need them.

Dottie, DK, Oneheart, Maria, and more - keep it up!

I want Kristen to understand all of the love and support she has. I want her to open her eyes and see that the people that really, really matter believe in her. I want her to know that the love she and Rob share is incomparable. I want her to know that - as so many of you have said - and I'm one of you - she is not defined by one mistake - none of us are.

And I want her to know that forgiveness is a wonderful gift - and not only is it a gift from others, but a gift to ourselves. And she deserves it.

Ginger with a Soul said...

@Perdido - I am around many many none twilight fans - most don't care at all or think it is crazy stupid what is being said about her.

The good thing in all of this - it is her and his decision alone what they will do - they have never folded for the media before and Rob has walked out with broad shoulders and not answered about his personal life nor has he taken one single swipe at her.

I have a very odd feeling we will see Kristen very soon - I think she didn't want to take any spot light away from his movie that they were both very proud of or give the media anymore fuel to throw his way. The next time we see her - I hope we see him by her side.

As crude as this sounds - if this was happening to one of my daughters I would tell her - fuck your haters they are not worth your time, they do not know you so don't let them own or define you. There hate is there own issue and will plague their own lives and prevent them from finding happiness within. Love as big as the world is because there maybe no tomorrow. Fight for him and keep letting him know - he is your priority and tune out what everyone has to say - follow your heart.

Ginger with a Soul said...

and there should be their - ugh I am illiterate

deb said...

Tempest i think i cried all through your post. What you said was SOOO true Rob needs to be Kristen's strength someone to HOLD on to. when your down on yourself you dont seem to HEAR what our love one are TRYING to say ( been there done that)I keep her in my PAYERS and Rob tooo Kristen is a STRONG STRONG women she just needs to see that again and WELL LOVED by many.I'm Very proud of OUR ROB. I think alot of people out there think he's upset with whats going on and I'm sure he is BUT i think he is VERY VERY upset with what's being said about the women he love's and I do believe he still dose love her So THANK YOU for your KIND words :) DEB.

Robert said...

@ginger

anyone who can spell the word "illiterate" could not be.......

damn near wrote a haiku there

SweetLilDream said...

@Nina Pearl

"What Rupert and Kristen did by breaking a family is not as easy to forgive"

I understand that people feel the need to question Kristen's integrity because she had a momentary indescrition with a married man with kids. Yes, it was wrong.

But if this family is indeed broken (which I doubt...), that's NOT Kristen's fault. She had no compromise with Liberty Ross and with her kids, Rupert had. He is the one married with her, not Kristen. If his family is broken, it's HIS fault, not Kristens's.


Ginger with a Soul said...

Nina has been on here several times to express how much she dislikes Kristen and to call her names.

I am trying to be the whole get along thing but she is killing me with the broken record so if I offend anyone I am sorry cause I really like ya ladies lots

Nina - I have a quote for ya

A person hates you for 1 of 3 reasons. 1) They want to be you. 2) They hate themselves. 3) They see you as a threat.

angelica1 said...

Perdido - I absolutely do take on board what you're saying, not that that's what I'm hearing on this side of the pond and I actually think it would be a good thing for Kristen to take some time off to get herself together and maybe reassess what she wants professionally. She's been working non stop for years and it's too much sometimes. However,I don't see how that makes her poisonous to Rob.Yes,he was going to get those stupid questions this week on his first public outing,it's not going to happen every time and it's not going to hurt his career in fact,having stability and support away from the craziness can only help him. Yes, it's right that Kristen should be willing to put him first, that's what real love should be about but if putting him first means being there beside him if he needs her to then she owes him that.She absolutely does not have the right to make that decision for him, he deserves to have the life he wants and if he believes that includes her then she needs to give him the benefit of the doubt and allow him that chance. Do it quietly by all means, it's not like they make a habit of parading around celeb hangouts anyway, if it it means being there waiting for him when he gets home from a shoot,if he asks her to, does he not deserve that? If Rob really is the most important thing in her life, then yes, she does need to grow the fuck up and make amends by being there for him, in whatever way HE wants. I'd probably be really pissing Kristen off right now but if she was stood in front of me right now this is exactly what I'd be telling her. She's better than this, she cannot rip his heart put and then pour bleach in the wound. If she's really sorry then to hell with the money making machine that is Hollywood and the general public,she needs to make amends to that incredible man by doing whatever the hell it is he asks her to for as long as he asks her to. Once I'd finished hitting her with a few home truths, Id gie her a big hug because she deserves it and I suspect she really needs it right now

Ginger with a Soul said...

@Robert - ha see I have tricks - spell check saves my ass there but I need to proof read better or someone to translate my brain to paper :)

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Anonymous said...

Perdido, I like your take on things lol. I would hate to think of Kristen sitting in a room not moving and catatonic. That's not pleasant. I think what we basically all mean is that it's now up to her to decide how much more CRAP she's going to take because compared to other people and their scandals, what she did was not anywhere near as bad.

There are always going to be ghouls who sit in offices that work for studios who are going to think that they know what the public wants. Yes there are going to be directors and producers and backers that will simply say "No Thank You" and close the door.

Yes there will be people who will take a lot of pleasure today in putting Kristen in what they think is 'her place'. FUCK EM.

As for Rob and Kristen's relationship and whether or not it continues. All I can say is this, any man or woman who loves someone so much that hey would be willing to face any kind of hell for that person to be with that person, is a keeper.

That's what love is supposed to be. I love my husband more than anything else on this Earth, and nothing, fame, fortune, NOTHING would ever be worth losing him in order to keep or gain it.

I am not a whole functioning person without him, I know that's probably old fashioned but it's true. My life would mean nothing if I couldn't share it with him.

I think Rob although hurt and probably angry feels the same way.

The ONLY thing I take issue with is one tiny thing. While what Elizabeth Taylor went through whenever she broke up Debbie Reynolds marriage wasn't the same as what Rob and Kristen's situation is, the next scandal she was involved in is the reason the Paparazzi is as rabid as it is today.

She and Richard Burton were the scandal of the century, they had to have security walk them to and from their cars, homes, etc because they were being crushed by the mass of photographers trying to capture that one picture that put their kids through school. Newspapers had their on sections daily and news casts began with the latest and on slow days they would say "There is nothing new in the Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton affair today" The Pope even commented on it.

It's not the same, of course it's not, but the point is she got through it and won 2 Oscars afterwards. America loved her and forgave her.

People think Kristen is box office Poison, eh ok maybe, but how did other people fare in the past who have been considered 'box office poison'

Katherine Hepburn: Box office poison in the 30s after being a huge star during that time had to buy the rights to a play in order to have a role she could play in a movie "The philadelphia story"

Sophia Loren: Box Office Poison after having an affair with a married man "Carlo Ponte"

Ingrid Bergman: Box office poison after leaving her husband and child and running off and marrying another man.

Charlie Chaplin.

So she will be in good company while she waits for the tide to change and it will.

Kay said...

Perdido - I understand what you are saying and it breaks my heart....for Kristen and Rob, and for our effed up society where people make judgements and decisions based on tabloid trash. I won't get into my opinions on the money and suit people, and their thoughts and ideas based on some micro poll they've done that is supposed to represent the general population. Thank you for explaining all of this, but I often feel the all knowing suits underestimate the intelligence and understanding of the general public.

Your analogy of Kristen sitting on the floor in 4 inches of broken china is gut wrenching. I can understand the thought of not subjecting someone she loves to the pain of trying to put it all back together again, but what would hurt Rob more....cuts received helping her put it back together, or the pain of watching her hurt herself more doing it alone? In the end, it's the love shared that is the most important thing there is...always.

<3

Anonymous said...

Oh and I am pretty certain based on hearing interviews she gave over her life, if Elizabeth Taylor were here today and giving Kristen advice on how to handle this horrible coverage, she'd say two words. 'FUCK THEM'

Dottie said...

Perdido, I get what you are saying but the people you are talking about are focused on career and business. That's not what life is about and I always thought Rob and Kristen knew that.

Kristen has been through hell and I would imagine is in a dark place right now. I wonder if she is in any shape to make such big decisions for herself right now, much less for Rob. My wish is that she would let the person who knows and loves her best take the lead on this. Let him know all the facts and all the consequences and then trust him enough to know what's the best way to move forward. There is no rush. They have a few months to be together and see how it goes before he has to go film. After filming they can see where things stand. Maybe they will decide that parting ways is the best, all I'm saying is that now is not the time to decide something so big. It's too fresh. Nobody can predict the future or how this will all shake out in the end. If I could talk to Kristen I would just beg her to give herself time to heal and get her head together because even if she thinks she is right, it's too important not to take the time to make sure you are both on the same page.

As for Rob never seeing any wrong in her, that's love honey. I daresay she would feel the same way if the tables were turned. Maybe Kristen should ask herself if she would want Rob to end it if he were the one in trouble?

Whatever people might think, the truth is most people couldnt care less who Robert Pattinson is dating. They will see his movies regardless which is why he is getting jobs.

To me this is all about deciding what's more important... love or career. Rob and Kristen have always chosen love. I hope they will continue to do that because choosing love is never the wrong decision.

Litmom said...

Great post, addisonmagee.

Anonymous said...

Thank you Litmom

Anonymous said...

Now she lost Snow White too. HAHAHA You get what you deserve in this life. I agree with Perdido that Kristen needs to stay the fuck away from everything and everyone. Do you know how much money people are going to lose because of her selfish behavior? These aren't all princesses like her-actually working people with mortgages and bills and she decides to fuck them all over to play kiss the director? Nice move you dumb bitch.

Litmom said...

You, too Dottie.

Dottie said...

PERDIDO, Angelica speaks the truth! And I'd join her in giving Kristen that hug. ;)

She owes it to Rob to do whatever it is he wants right now. There is plenty of time to make big hard decisions later on if those decisions need to be made. People rarely regret taking their time to make a decision but people ALWAYS regret making rash decisions.

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Mary said...

Before I offer any pearls of wisdom I have to apologize to all of you. When all of this happened I was very intolerant and opinionated and I am embarrassed by my behavior. I stayed away from all of this because I realized this is not my life, and I was appalled with the way I reacted. Please accept my apologies.

So I started reading comments last night and Perdido has gotten everyone thinking. Angelica, your latest words were spectacular.

I have college age and older children. I have been through breakups, cheating, and I think my oldest dallied with a married man, but I don’t remember exactly, which is a point to notice. Whenever my kids wanted to break up or end a relationship for whatever reason I asked them to make a list. So if I could talk to Kristen I’d tell her to make a list as to whether her life would be better with or without Rob and Rob should do it too. No bullshit stuff on there either, but real honest feelings. Talk about your lists and both decide what is best.
Would the world end if Kristen can’t be the lead in a movie? Is there shame in having a lesser role? She could try her hand at a screenplay and write under a pseudonym, then surprise everyone when she wins an award for original screenplay. People do forget. Didn’t Wynona Ryder commit some offence, that I can’t even remember, which again is my point. She’s working now, maybe not as the lead, but still working. Bottom line, quit feeling sorry for yourself and do something constructive. Embrace the fact that you have a man who wants to support you, and build him up and help him be all he can. You might find that is the best job you’ll ever have. Life does go on, opinions change but don’t throw away a chance at happiness because you don’t think you’re worthy.

It seems to me awhile back someone had a saying that was, Hold on to your happy. I think that would be a good place for Kristen to start anew.

Sorry for the dissertation. I've been gone for a long time and the words just build up.

angelica1 said...

PL - Very well said and so true

Leni said...

PL - ((hugs))

Dottie said...

I think it's quite humorous that Universal is backtracking and rewording their original statement about SWATH2. Seems there was some backlash from Kristen fans as well as the media and celebs. Maybe those business types in that meeting are underestimating the love that is out there for Kristen? Is it possible that in this case they might be wrong? Hmmmm? I guess time will tell.

Mary said...

Angelica,

Very well said about my shitty behavior or my pearls of wisdom? LOL!

Thanks.

angelica1 said...

PL - LOL! The Pearls,The Pearls!

Anonymous said...

PL I think we all have gotten a little heated over this situation from time to time, I know I have. I'm glad to see you back

Dottie said...

By the way, I still don't see how Rob staying w/Kristen hurts him any worse than leaving. He loves her and what she is going through is going to hurt him no matter what. It's not going to affect his popularity or career. In fact I think people will have even more respect for him. I know this isn't important to her, but I think it will help her as well because alot of people will follow his lead. IF they break up then in a way it confirms that what she did must have been really really bad. If he stays people will begin to wonder if maybe things werent as bad as was reported.

Anonymous said...

Litmom-I'm not awful. The person who is awful is the one who cheats on her BOYFRIEND with a MARRIED FATHER. Add in that she befriended his wife and kids while she was sleeping with him. Who is awful? I would not support one thing that whore does. I don't care about her and I hope everyone she knows runs away and leaves her to be the emotionless untalented brat that she is. How can all of you defend her this way? She's a liar and used all of you for years to make millions. What's worse is she used Robert too by fooling him into thinking she gave a shit. How many times did she tell him to shut the fuck up in front of cameras. Poor guy--can't imagine what she was like off camera if that is how she treated him on. He and everyone else in Hollywood should kick her to the curb and not look back. If we have to put up with bad behavior lets at least make it someone talented and pretty. She is neither and her ugly inside is glaring through.

angelica1 said...

Dottie - They are seriously underestimating her fans, I wish she'd been on my timeline today, it's been hilarious. There are a lot of incredible women amongst her fans and it's been like a cross between Braveheart and Thelma and Louise watching them go in to bat for her. I sat in a Marketing and Branding meeting this afternoon with it minimised in the corner of my laptop, it was hard work trying to convince my boss that my e-mails were really that funny :)

Ginger with a Soul said...

@ bluetoerednail - you actually are awful . Please do tell how you "Know" she slept with him. Also your ugly is shining away sweetie keep talking about someone you know nothing about.

JFC I just wish you jealous bitches would come up with an original insult. At least make the effort to be original instead of toeing the party line.

I am using a Rose line - she obviously owns you because you came her to talk about her, you have invested time into someone you think is all these less than creative names.

Dottie said...

Where is our clean up crew?

Angelica, My TL was the same. Not just fans though. Celebs, bloggers, media.... I think people are waking up to the truth and see that what is happening to her is not right. I loved seeing Eddie Redmayne's tweet of support. Someone who knows both Rob and Kristen. That was my point earlier. IT's too soon to know how this is all going to go. Those suits may think they know but there has never been anything like this before. It's way too soon for break ups, careers ending, nails in coffins... a year from now things will be so much different and what a shame to have thrown everything away in haste?

If I could talk to Rob I'd tell him to follow his heart and stand up for what is right and what is really important in this life.

Anonymous said...

Bluetoe, I am so sorry for the turmoil and stress your life must have been over this situationThank you for your input into this important situation, we have all heard your concerns and will take then into advisement. It seems to me that you probably were not hugged enough as a child, so this (((((HUG'S))))) FOR YOU! It was nice hearing from you and please as always have a nice day. It has been a pleasure.

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Anonymous said...

PL,

Welcome back. I think a lot of us said some things we shouldn't have at first, I know I did.

I hope you don't mind me saying this, but you remind me a lot of my mom. She's a no nonsense type of person and speaks her mind no matter what. It's annoying at times, especially when she's right.

I'm out for a girl's night out so probably won't be back tonight. So please everyone, be kind.

Anonymous said...

Have fun Lucky

SweetLilDream said...

@Perdido

You know, sometimes, the best thing you can do to someone who wants to help you, even if you don't feel worthy is... to let them help you. If Rob wants to be there for Kristen in this difficult time, he should be allowed to. If he REALLY wants to be there for her and he's not allowed to, he will feel even more hurt. Helpless. That's the worst feeling of all, seeing someone we love in pain and not being able to help.

"You are viewing it from a really rare place because alot of you are sweet and kind and forgiving but the general public isn't."

The general public loves a redemption story as much as they love a good scandal. And a lot of people who buy movie tickets are NOT interested in the personal lives of the actors, they just want to watch a good movie. My advice to Kristen would be to chose projects where she's not the main attraction, for now. Supporting roles in good movies. Some doors may be closed now, but others will open for sure. I know that everything seems dark now, but I would tell her to try to be positive despite all and to have faith in people! People don't like injustices, and the general public is starting to react to the hatred directed at her. Have faith!

If Rob decides to stay with Kristen, I doubt that it will hurt his career. His fans will respect his decision, even if they don't agree with it. And the haters? They were haters before, that's not going to change. I say, fuck them!




Sue from Holland said...

@Addisonmagee @Dottie @PL,

very eloguently spoken.

@Bluetoerednail,

you have me speechless.
Piniata line up.

Wildhart007 said...

Perdido
I will sit on the floor and help put those shards back together and bleed again and again if that is what Kris needs.
A friend will not walk away but will walk beside you and hold your hand
So many here have experience that only time and pain have given them. Please seriously consider their words.

Love heals all wounds.

Linda

ali mac said...

.PL good to see you :-)

Dottie and angelica well said both of you.

Sue from Holland said...

@Dottie, who is Eddie Redmayne? Could you please tell me what he said? Thanks.

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