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Friday, August 3, 2012

Rob and Kristen- Hope of Deliverance




Rose's Rant

The Ninnies finally got what they wanted... Right?
Rob has left Kristen... Right?
They are no longer together... Right?
Your dreams have come true... Right?

So why are you still talking about her?
Why are you still obsessed with her?
Why is it that you are more focused on Kristen
and her career... 
Than the man you claim to be a fan of?
Seize your opportunity!
Now you can just do what you have always claimed 
you wanted to do!
JUST ROB!
ONLY ROB!
"I just want to be a fan of Rob's without THAT girl"
So why aren't you?
I bet you still spend more time trashing Kristen
than you do talking about Rob.
Wonder why.

Well...

1. You have to admit that you were WRONG the past 3+ years
about the whole PR bullshit.
And as gleeful and happy as you are over Rob's broken heart right now
(Unfortunately some of you ARE gleeful even if Rob is hurting...)
It still burns you that Kristen was in a relationship with him
ALL THIS TIME.
She still had what you will never have.
Rob.
And truly...
Even if they don't get back together again...

It's still better to have loved and lost Rob
Than to never have loved him at all.

2. And admit it.
The reason you are watching this so closely?
You are SO scared that he will take her back.
Oh sure...
You are hoping against hope that he won't.
You want to believe that he would never forgive her.
Yet...


You wake up everyday worrying that THIS will be the day.

So keep on hating her.
Keep on judging her.
All you perfect people who have never
made mistakes in your life.
Did you let your mistakes define you?
Or did you get the chance to learn from them?
Because I know...
that even if you never 'cheated' on someone
You have hurt someone you love.
Somewhere down the line.
Because we ALL do it.
Intentionally or not.
We all do it.

You don't have to like Kristen.
(and quite honestly, its obvious you never really did)
You don't have to like what she did.
(Nobody likes it)
But to continually hate on this young girl
who didn't do anything to you
shows more about you than it does her.
Rob is her boyfriend.
Not yours.
This affects their lives.
Not yours.
She doesn't need your forgiveness.
Save your righteous indignation for your own life.

She's paying the price in her private life....
With the whole world watching.
That's enough.

This post is brought to you by
Hope of Deliverance.

Thank you Paul McCartney.
You always make me smile.
(And thank you too, for reminding me of the song...
You know who you are)


I will always be hoping, hoping.
You will always be holding, holding
My heart in your hand. I will understand.

I will understand someday, one day.
You will understand always,
Always from now until then.

When it will be right, I don't know.
What it will be like, I don't know.
We live in hope of deliverance from the darkness that surrounds us.

Hope of deliverance, hope of deliverance.
Hope of deliverance from the darkness that surrounds us.

And I wouldn't mind knowing, knowing
That you wouldn't mind going, going along with my plan.

When it will be right, I don't know.
What it will be like, I don't know.
We live in hope of deliverance from the darkness that surrounds us.

Hope of deliverance, hope of deliverance.
Hope of deliverance from the darkness that surrounds us.


What it will be like...
I don't know
But I hope they will find their way
back to each other.

I care about both Rob and Kristen.
BOTH of them.
I just want them to be OK.
Wherever that leads them.


And this post is brought to you by...
My complete adoration of Thomas Sturridge.

I'm sure he is being a good friend.
To both.

Until next time

Bye for now

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Lanette said...

I couldn't agree more. I just want what is best for them no matter what. I just hate how everyone can't seem to make up their minds about Kristen. I think they like to hate her. People just need to let it go and mind their own business. It is hard enough for them right now being in the public eye and having everyone eye on them.

Anna said...

IDK Rose...I find myself in deep deep denial about her cheating this week. Just doesn't seem like her...keeping the faith and praying for them!

SteffiTwoBits said...

I wish all of the sanctimonious women tying Kristen to the stake would answer, honestly, this question:

Have you ever let yourself cross a physical line or even be drawn into sexual contact with a male friend you have a close bond with who is pushing limits? Simply because you didn't want to hurt him, became confused, found it easier to just go along and move past it? Never, any contact like this, at all?

You are in the minority. Congratulations. But please stop lobbing grenades at those who have been pushed and tested. You are not their judge.

Anna said...

IDK Rose...I find myself in deep deep denial about her cheating this week. Just doesn't seem like her...keeping the faith and praying for them!

Groovie said...

Good song choice!
I imagine Kristen has hope too and won't stop fighting for him.
Love and support goes out to both, as always.

Hope you all have a good weekend!

annacrissoares said...

They will never understand Rob and Kristen. They don't know the meaning of love,so they don't know forgiveness. Poor souls...

elizabeth matherlywolf said...

Oh Rose, I sure wish Rob and Kristen would read your messages! Silly hope, I know. I bet you would be a great counselor. Always hoping they have begun to sway in the direction of healing. Thanks again. Steffitwobits comment was spot on!!

kazrob said...

I have always loved your blog but I usually just like to read, agree with all your comments because they always made sense and laugh at all your emoticons. I agree that all the name calling and bullying is dreadful and really childish.
I am still trying to get my head around her actions though. She was the one who was by his side through all the Twilight chaos, they strengthened each other and she was a strong person. An honest person. A sincere person with integrity by the bucketload. I think if someone asked her 6 months ago would she do this and her eye-rolling and curse words would be off the scale. She would never believe it of herself. So its disappointment that I feel. I know she didn't do it to me but she did it to someone I care about.Something I never dreamed she would be capable of
doing. Worst of all, it wasn't a mistake. She made a choice and carried it out to the detriment of many people.

katy said...

I wouldn't expect anything less from Tom, then him being a good friend to both, Rob and Kristen.

I am thinking is the best firend one could ask.

Again, wishing love, peace and hapiness for Rob and Kristen

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danielle said...

I totally agree with you. All these people hating on Kristen since she was with Rob...It's ridiculous! Absurd! I honestly do believe these people are completely obsessed with Kristen. They are jealous that they have the need to point out every single flaw that she has. It's over, they don't need to hate! They're making themselves look like complete fools and idiots! I believe that Rob an Kristen can work things out whether they end up together or apart. They didn't go through the pat 4 years together for nothing. They're strong individuals.

Robert said...

rose

i know you hear this all the time, but you've never heard it from me

you just put words to my thoughts better than i ever could have, and it's what you didn't say [that i probably would have] that i am most impressed with

also, the beatles song i keep thinking for these two is the long and winding road

any way thanks for letting me hang out

Ginger with a Soul said...

Awesome post Rose

These haters appear to be more into her than him - they say a small sediment to him and then spend hours on her and honestly know way more about her then should be healthy for someone they don't care about.

I keep hope alive - sometimes the storm gets worse before the sun comes out but sometimes isn't the grass so much greener and the air fresher after a big down pour , hell I am even for chasing those rainbows. Here's to hoping that I can dance as the rain ends, soak in the sun, and read a book in the green grass.

Kay said...

Lovely post, Rose. I'm pretty sick of the sanctimonious bullshit out there...some people really need to put their stones, stakes and pitchforks away. We all hurt the ones we love and care about....all of us. Wishing Rob, Kristen and their friends and family hope and peace through this.

Take care, everyone. <3

liz22 said...

Your blogs neews more nonbert mention, you dont care but I will posting anyway..

''What a lie...you are all butthurt because she painted Rob has the sissyboy he is.
It became FACT that maybe afterall he isn't perfect, and not EVERYONE thinks he is.
She emasculated an already tetttering on the sissy side Brit in a very public way.''

''For someone who supposedly loved her, he's been suspiciously quiet about all this. I really don't think her career has been ruined. I don't think he ever loved her.''

''He is not man enough to defend them''

''He is weak and too damn sensitive. He is so perfect and so wonderful and yet she cheated on him. Makes me wonder if he is as good as everyone think he is.''

''He is so weak and he is really milking this wounded boyfriend role. I give him an academy award for that''

''To be honest this guy doesn't love kristen and never did. He is probably sitting back laughing at her. He is milking this for all it's worth. Poor rich,perfect, can do no wrong Rob!''

''Rob is so quiet cause he NEEDS this pity, his career sucks.''

''Only one who wins with "publicity" is Rob..otherwise NO ONE would go to his Cosmopoplupiss movie.''

so, want more?

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angelica1 said...

Great post Rose. I have faith that they will both get through this and be OK

Leni said...

Great post, Rose!
I still believe in their love.

Ginger with a Soul said...

@ Lix 22 - I can only speak for myself since I support both - the hate period - no matter who spews it is disgusting and no matter who it is at - neither side is right - there are no winners in this fight. You're just adding to the hate by trying to prove a point.

I however strapped on my goulashes, have my umbrella out, and am looking for the next book to read when the storm passes.

Quick question - has anyone seen Magic Mike and was it any good? I am waiting for the DVD since I am still not very keen on theaters but I want to know will it be worth the wait.

Ginger with a Soul said...

lol that was Liz but I laughed a little at my slip - I am illiterate at times (thank god for spell check but geez I need to proof read)

Kenzz said...

Thanks, Rose!

Mandie said...

Ginger:

Hi! I heard it was okay...lot's of eye candy!!

30 said...

Seriously though if the media would stop reporting on this every hour on the hour with BS articles. These people would have less and less places to spread their crap. It only feeds them all.

30 said...

And yes Liz, I had seen some of that garbage posted on a few sites the other day over and over and over, like the person would just copy and paste their hate for Rob. Then, after that someone would call Kristen horrible names. I am sure these blogs are loving those hits.

bellabells7279 said...

I hope the best for them. Whatever works for the the best is solely for them to decide. Not anyone else. I just wish people would stop the hate messages to anyone who is involved with this and leave them alone. Thank you Rose for this blog and your comments. It's the only thing I read.

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Omoiyari said...

Liz22
why you do that?you are a bitter nonstens?
please STOP

gaga4stew said...

Liz thanks for the laugh. I do agree I don't like how Rob is been quite in all this....I just want a statement from either one if they broken up or one of them should go on a date. This will all Turn into are they, aint they fiasco and that is not what they need right now. That been said the haters obsession with kristen is mind blowing and scary. They only care about Rob when they are discussion his manhood or hooking him up with different blonde. I hope they sort their shit and comes out stronger together or apart.

mollyder said...

Once again another great unbiased post. We dont know what the future holds. We dont know what will come to pass but if they should go their seperate ways, then I dearly hope that KS will finally, finally get to have that "horrible hatred hold" that has been strangling her for the past 5 years be released. This girl has had to endure invasion of privacy (off the charts), death threats, invasion of her family and friends privacy, every nuance of her life and body picked apart to no end. Sometimes I wonder if she ever sits and thinks that Twilight wasnt worth it. Granted it gave her some great things and opportunites but alot of hell too. Maybe she will be able to breath a little easier and not have to look over her shoulder every time she walks out her front door. She can kind of live a somewhat more normal life (however much you can lead in the fishbowl that is hollyweird). Whatever happens I wish her the best. She has not always handled things in the classiest way but when she got knocked down she always got up, dusted herself off and continued on. Keep doing that and all will be fine. Will continue to be a fan because that is what real fans to, stick by you through good and bad times.

SteffiTwoBits said...

Honestly Kazrob, I don't understand this distinction. Yes, she made a bad choice, a MIStake. Every mistake is a choice. You just choose wrongly. SO many people seem to be dwelling on this idea, as if all choices are conscious, fully informed, well thought out, rational decisions. Were that true, rarely would any of us make mistakes. Saints we'd all be!

And in this case, we do NOT know all that issues that factored into that choice, or who she may have even been trying to appease or protect. Clearly with naive and erroneous reasoning. But we weren't in her shoes. I find it preposterous that any even pretend to be. Oversimplifying this does no one any good.

Wildhart007 said...

Rose What a great rant. I just want Rob and Kristen to be okay also. The vitriol being spouted is totally uncalled for from people this does not concern.

Some of the comments feel like we're in grade school, where a few want to hurt an individual just to be spiteful.

I'm sure Tom is being a wonderful and supportive friend.

I really enjoyed the song. Music just seems to make you feel better and bring understanding and hope.

I believe and wish for hope and healing for everyone.

Love and hugs to you all

Linda

valéria said...

I know that you will not publish my comment, but never mind: you, for years, you made the supposed perfect relationship between Rob and Kristen your goodwill, when something happened that would contradict your belief, you give to these events the most fanciful and even absurd interpretations. I think one thing: if she really loved Rob, she would not have cheated with another. and if she no longer loved him but she continued to care about him and respect him she would have broken up with him in a clear and honest way. it would have been painful for Rob of course, but he would not feel humiliated and wounded as he must surely feel now. we do not humiliate someone we have really loved one day. because yes, I am convinced that she wanted to get caught by the paps. But that does not interest you, doesn't? you do not care about Rob, what you care about is Kristen, her feelings. what you want is Rob, even with a broken heart to take her again. this is pathetic!

deb said...

Rose it is true the BS ARTICLES are getting payed BIG BUCKS and WHO are paying them??? WE ARE We the FANS by reading All the BS they wright WE DON'T KNOW what is going on in ROBERT and KRISTEN LIFE WE NEVER DID. ONE thing is TRUE THEY DO LOVE EACH OTHER and because of the LOVE they have for each other THEY WELL FINE A WAY OUT OF THIS they always HAVE and always WELL I believe in their love THANK YOU SWEET ROSE :) DEB

Hope said...

THANK YOU AGAIN, ROSE!

I have faith in Rob, Kristen and second chances.

Love to all.

JMF said...

valéria, I tried to respond to your post, but I have deleted at least 3 responses. But you have it all wrong and are barking up the wrong tree on this forum. Please don't post your hate here.

irisheyesmasen said...

Great blog post, maybe we can all learn some humility from this sitch.

To Rob, together or apart, forgiveness shall free you from sorrow, pain, loss, and betrayal.

To Kristen, you are an amazing girl, I support you and I don't care what has happened, it is none of my business. Stay strong girl!

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ladyevenstar22 said...

i came back , i just don't know where to go and there are so many places i can't and dare not go to online! i mean yeah i'm sad, stunned ,stumped, disappointed,in denial too in so little words i'm in a maelstrom of feelings right now, and yes i know that whatever we're feeling right now cannot compare to what they're both going through !
i believed in this love, i cannot resign myself to it dying and then this fav poem of mine came to mind and made me reflect a bit more if you believe as i do that their love is true and strong then read this , after reminding myself of this i chose to believe things will work out and that's that :

shakespeare's sonnet 116


Let me not to the marriage of true minds
Admit impediments. Love is not love
Which alters when it alteration finds,
Or bends with the remover to remove:
O no! it is an ever-fixed mark
That looks on tempests and is never shaken;
It is the star to every wandering bark,
Whose worth's unknown, although his height be taken.
Love's not Time's fool, though rosy lips and cheeks
Within his bending sickle's compass come:
Love alters not with his brief hours and weeks,
But bears it out even to the edge of doom.
If this be error and upon me proved,
I never writ, nor no man ever loved.


this is the alteration, this is the storm,this is the doom ,what happens next is unknown!

Groovie said...

Dottie-
Ditto, totally. Your comment was perfection and I loved it.

liz22 said...

The more I read the more I convinced that y'all don't give a f*ck about Rob and never will. All you care about Kristen.
All the humiliation and betrayal by someone you love is devasting. yet Kristen's getting most of the support who cares about rob right? He just needs to get over it.

ADD said...

l'll never understand why some people are so cruel. How can you hate someone you don't really know?

"She's paying the price in her private life....
With the whole world watching.
That's enough." ITA. Sometime we are harder on ourselves, harder than we would be on anybody else.

“To err is human, to forgive, divine.” - Alexander Pope

liz22 said...

She's also getting huge support from media too. I'm sure y'all will love this pro-kristen article. lots of rob snark too. so yay!

“She’s 22 years old," said Stern Monday morning. "That’s what you’re supposed to do when you’re 22. I don’t approve of the guy. Don’t take her out in public and flog her cause he’s a married guy. HE’S the guy in the marriage. She’s a 22-year-old girl. 22-year-old girls are very impressionable. And quite frankly at 22 she shouldn’t be marrying anybody, let alone Robert Pattinson who’s just like a good looking guy. Who even knows if he’s got a half a f**king brain in his head? She should be dating. If she was my daughter, I’d tell her to date and get to know some guys—not married guys, and try to meet some people before you decide to marry Robert Pattinson—which is a good lesson for everyone: just because the guy is incredibly handsome—which he is—you do have to like the guy...She’s 22. Her hormones are raging. It would be a huge mistake for her to marry the guy. She’s probably only f***ed like 2-3 guys her entire life. She’s going to go, at 22, swear her allegiance to one guy to f**k her for the rest of her life? Gimme a break. She’s 22. She’s on a movie set. She’s in the most glamorous business.”

How nice huh? Rob must be thrilled

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beacullen said...

Rose I swear you always know just what to say. Thanks for the rational thinking!!!I hope they're both happy no matter what

Holy said...

I thank and love you Rose.
All of us,especially you Rose were been hurt about this,but you never give up on Kristen.We both love Rob/Kristen,but Kristen needed it most,because her heart and soul are in a very dark place right now.

ADD said...

@liz22
I don't see how hating on Kristen is going to make Rob feel any better. We're not the mistakes we make.

Freddie said...

And it is sickening that Rob is being mud raked by the likes of Stern. Everything Rob (and Kristen) fought to protect is now fodder for late night comedians.

Dottie said...

Freddie, I'll support Rob, whatever he decides. I'm truly sorry if my comment left you w/the wrong impression. On re-reading it I can see why it might have. I was kind of fired up about the ninnies and it spilled over.

I just want them both to be ok, whatever it takes.

luckystrike87 said...

Freddie,
I agree with you 100%. It seems as though people are afraid to express that sentiment around here, so good for you for being honest. It would be sad if a loved one of Rob's were to come here looking for positive and find that Rob has become second fiddle so to speak.

You always have such kind and thoughtful posts, so thank you for that. You never say a harsh word about Kristen yet don't skirt the issue either

Freddie said...

Dottie - it's all good. No problem. Thanks for the note back. I guess I'm fired up today too - not in a good way, in my case. I'm going to go and chill out for a while.

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Dottie said...

No problem, Fredster ;) ((Hugs))

elena said...

I've been a fan of this blog for years and never commented before.
Rob will do what his heart and soul tell him and I don't care if he takes her back or not, it's not my life, it's theirs, it's his decision.

I strongly disagree with the MISTAKE PART. Cheating is a choice, more than one hookup (which is obvious) is a choice not a mistake.
And the only people who know if there was sex or not (for me an essential information to keep or not a relationship) are Kris and that bastard. They could claim with tears that there was not sex, but the once the trust is gone I would always have my doubts.
That's just my opinion.

I love the blog since 2009. And It's always been Him!

rxlady60 said...

@Ginger with soul about your question,my daughter and I both like the movie.Thank you for keeping this happy place free from negative vibes I really admire you for that.Keep the Faith everyone

Ginger with a Soul said...

@Lizz22 - I just don't see how defending either or means you don't care about the other - you brought posts from somewhere else - not here - and make it seem because some of us choose to stand by her we don't also support him. Because I hope they make this out together doesn't mean I am saying bad things about him or saying he is a bad guy - hope is a human emotion as much as anger and hatred, we each make a choice which of those are best for us. If you want to crucify her - knock your socks off - your choice as it will be mine to defend her (I say that for anyone coming here to bash Rob). Neither need the negative support - do you think either are proud of fans that feel justified to hate either or (Kristen/Rob) because of their personal lives? Do you think Rob will high five someone saying shit about her, Kristen give a hug to someone trashing him? These are real people that have a real problem to deal with - their lives intertwined on so many levels - why not at the very least hope they both come out healthy - not only for their sakes but for yours too.

Takes a careful step off my soap box so I don't trip.

elena said...

I've been a fan of this blog for years and never commented before.
Rob will do what his heart and soul tell him and I don't care if he takes her back or not, it's not my life, it's theirs, it's his decision.

I strongly disagree with the MISTAKE PART. Cheating is a choice, more than one hookup (which is obvious) is a choice not a mistake.
And the only people who know if there was sex or not (for me an essential information to keep or not a relationship) are Kris and that bastard. They could claim with tears that there was not sex, but the once the trust is gone I would always have my doubts.
That's just my opinion.

I love the blog since 2009. And It's always been Him!

Litmom said...

Hi Rose & 'landers-
Every day this week has been a little more hopeful but for some reason today I'm a bit sad. Maybe because I'm tired.

I support our Rob, whatever he decides. Of course, I want him to decide to open up his arms and heart and let Kristen in so they can heal together.

I'm sad for him that he is dealing with the constant media attention, speculation, and scrutinization. I'm sad for him because HE is hurting and sad. I'm sad for her because, bless that child's heart - she is not only hurting, she is getting so much hate and condemnation.

So glad they have supportive, loving, strong friends and family to help themm deal with this.

Here's to hope for both.

isis said...

@Liz22- who is stern?

And please you could post more articles with huge support from media like you said ? Looks like you are the only one who can find them.

Go away, there are many stupid blogs and sites with haters comments like you for you make friendship.


I think i can speak for all the fans who write here in Rose blog : Rose made very clear her position about this case. She will remain fan of both. We all have the same opinion soo i'm gonna help you to understand; WE NOT GONNA BELIEVE OR CHANGE OUR MIND ABOUT THEM; NOTHING THAT YOU SAY WILL MAKE DIFFERENCE. AND I HOPE THAT IN YOUR PERSONNAL LIFE YOU WILL NEVER MAKE ANY MISTAKE BECAUSE IF YOU DO , YOU KNOW THAT THE SAME WAY YOU THINK ABOUT KRISTEN THEY WILL THINK ABOUT YOU: SO YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS WILL ABANDONNE YOU.

Big kisses to all the lovely ladies here : )

@Ginger with a soul- thanks honey : ) for answer me. I think next week the things will fade away.

Oh please God make Miley Cirus do something stupid : )

katy said...

Freddie, I am also with you 100%

katy said...

Liz22

I can only speak for me...SO go fuckyourself If you think I don't care about Rob.

bubblejoi said...

Thanks Rose. You always say just the right thing.

lizs said...

@elena

agreed so much.

and people expect too much from Rob. Amazing how quick they forget.
She cheated on him while wearing his clothes (not to mention about the smile on her face ) yet he's supposed to come out, defend her and takes her back.

and It's so unfair that rob's getting lots of snark from media LA times, Huffingtonpost etc and now Howard Stern

he's just called rob stupid, and said that it's good that kristen cheated. nothing wrong with hurting people like rob. Simply disgusting.

Dottie said...

I deleted my earlier comment because after re-reading it I can see how it might be perceived differently from how I meant it. The last thing we need here is more controversy. Sorry if I upset anyone.

torrimarie said...

May I ask why it is that people in general are acting like everyone needs to make a choice between Rob and Kristen? Isn't it ok to be angry with Kristen while still caring for her? Isn't it ok to still care about Rob, who by all accounts, Kristen's included, has been the one who has done nothing wrong?

Rose talked about what we know the other day, and based on the facts presented to us, we know that Kristen took responsibility for her actions, says she is upset by her mistake. Rob has done nothing. Once again going on what exactly we know.

I firmly believe that we have the right to be angry with someone we truly care about for their behavior. There is however a difference between anger and hatred. Hatred is not acceptable.

I am a romantic at heart, and I do hope that this is something that they can get through and move forward. In a perfect world they can. We do not live in a perfect world as everyone can attest to. We live in a flawed world.

In a flawed world, it's not easy to forgive someone who has hurt you terribly, but with love there is always hope. So I hope they can resolve this and move forward either as friends or as a strong and united couple.

All I want is for them to be ok. However they decide to continue their relationship.

Freddie said...

Dottie - good idea. I'm going to do the same with my post. I don't want to add fuel to any fire either.

Dottie said...

Freddie - <3

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Melanie Sapthina said...

Dear Rose.....
Thanks (again) for posting this. I love it!!! I'm right behind you.

I believe we all here because we love and care for Rob. And we still support Kristen. Wether Rob will stay with Kristen or not, that' s not for us to decide. It's their life.

Don't get me wrong, i really hope they will stay together. Because when i feel love, it' s so hard to let it go. Even it was hurt. Love that i have will always win. That's why i always say I Believe in Love.

And i believe in Rob. In his silence time, it' s the best way for him, and for Kristen too. We will see him for Cosmopolis premier and interview, we will know by then. If Rob decided to appear in front of media, i ' m sure he already have the answer for all of this even if he won' t talk about it publicaly.

Big hug for everyone in Roseland.....

Melanie Sapthina said...

Agreed!!!!

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Rhonda said...

Thank you, Rose...

I have faith in second chances, and I believe Rob and Kristen can find their way through this, if that's what they both still want. One mistake, or even many for that matter, does not mean the end of a relationship. I'm wihing them all the best.

Again, to all of you that have never made a mistake I say: please check your halos. As for the rest of us mere mortals: please carry on.

Hi everyone- I hope it's been a great day. TGIF! <3

Rhonda said...

Ughh, sorry for the typo: that should be "wishing".....

ali mac said...

Dottie and Freddie the amount of times in this last week I've typed out what I'm feeling re-read it and deleted it because it reads differently than what I was trying to say.

Litmom Sometimes it just hits you a bit more. Cyber hug sent your way (())

Litmom said...

Thanks, ali mac -
I guess that's what I get for having to go back to school!

Rhonda said...

Litmom- awww, I'm snding you a ((hug)) too :)

Ali & Angelica- I like the new avi's ;)

Annie- just read your comment from @5:19am...love it <3

Rhonda said...

Why can't I type, or spell? Seriously, I get a word wrong everytime :(

rolange said...

ITA Rose! It's never enough with these Nonstens. NEVER.

I guess it just burns them to realize that this whole fiasco wouldn't hurt Robert so much if he didn't love Kristen so much. And if it hurts that much...well, there's always the possibility that they can work things out. I hope so.

PS
I love that picture of Rob and Tom. Rob looks sooooo handsome there. I love his hair that length (yes, I'm...ahem, fangirling) and in a suit. Just perfect.

Have a great weekend Rose. Things will get better.

Litmom said...

Rhonda - I hear ya.
No matter how many times I look over my post, once I hit "publish your comment" - I see a typo. Jeesh.

Litmom said...

And thanks for the hugs, girls. Back at 'cha.

bubblejoi said...

I wouldn't visit a blog called Robert Pattinson Intoxication just about every day for the past three years if I didn't care about Rob. One of the most intoxicating things about him was the way he loved his woman and showed it without ever saying it out loud. When I finally realized that the allegations were true, I felt like I'd been punched in the stomach. I couldn't eat or sleep for three days. As it all hit me I had so much empathy for Rob because it only indicated what he must have been thinking or feeling only much worse and with absolutely everything invested. I've read personal stories on this blog in the last week of people who have cheated and been cheated on. I'm sure a few of those people who cheated would have sworn on their life that they could never cheat...until they did. I'm guessing some of those who were cheated on would have sworn that if they were ever betrayed like that the relationship would be over and done with instantly...until the person you felt like you loved more than life was the one you'd be walking away from. Relationships are rarely so black and white that they could end so simply. I can only guess that Rob is hurt angry and humiliated and as fucked up as this media circus surrounding his life is he won't always feel as devastated as he does now. At least I hope so because if he doesn't find a way to come to terms with it, it will haunt his life for a very long time and that would be absolutely horrible. For me holding on to the hope that Rob will find a way to forgive Kristen doesn't mean that it negates my concern and compassion for him.

I can be disappointed and disgusted by Kristen's actions and still support her and wish her well. Time will reveal whether she truly regrets her choices. If she refuses to learn anything from this experience she's bound to fuck herself over once again. For most of us, the majority of the people we know and interact with will never be privy to some of the most awful things we do to others or ourselve let alone the whole world. Kristen cannot say the same. If she come through this with her sanity more power to her.

People who love each other hurt each other everyday. It's one of those quirks of being human. I'm glad that humans also possess the crazy abilty ot forgive wrongs done to them.

DreamerKind said...

A Design For Living

Gonna Build A Mountain:

Sammy Davis Jr:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH2PCByRU74

DreamerKind said...

Greetings, dear Folk.

DreamerKind said...

@Rose
Package of hope delivered and received. Porch light left on, as usual. <3

luckystrike87 said...

Bubblejoi,
I agree with all you said, except for the 3 yr part because I haven't been around here for that long, lol.

You expressed it all very well.

Hello Dreamer.

Barbara Fenwick said...

Thank you Rose for your words. I cannot condone what Kristen did, but I have gotten so tired of people trashing her, calling her names and even death threats.

I too only want them to be okay.Hopefully they will make it back together, but if not, than I only want them to be happy.

Take care everyone. It has been very stressful these last week. I am hoping this improves for all of us as well.

DreamerKind said...

@lucky
Cheers, where's our beer?

luckystrike87 said...

No beer tonight for me, Dreamer, but don't let me stop you.

Super RN Gas Passer said...

LIZ 22

I read what you posted that Stern said. It sounds just like something he would say. He's just jealous because he wishes he looked like Rob. Hahaha.

On a more serious note. It is quite presumptuous to assume how many people she may or may not have " been" with or how many he thinks she should encounter before considering marriage. But of course he is a jerk so what else would one expect.

All this to say ...ROB. Consider the source. You know who you are and what you are and So Do We and SO DOES SHE. And nothing any jackass has to say changes one thing about you!!!We think you are WONDERFUL:)

olivia said...

Passing a big pitcher of sangría around.

Thank you, dear Rose, for the post today.
I Will,
Hey Jude,
and now, Hope of Deliverance.
Healing words and the soothing salve of music by the Beatles.
(Lovely to see Linda in the video.)

A loving hug for you, dear Barbara Fenwick.

Keeping Rob and Kristen, their family and friends in my thoughts and prayers.
Hugs for y'all here in Roseland.
Hugs for Smitty, Gruff and Syd.
May there be hope, compassion, forgiveness and sunshine in their hearts as soon as possible.

DreamerKind said...

Consider Mirth-Making

I Want To Be Happy

Ella Fitzgerald/Chick Webb Orchestra (1937):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVglo7vRskA

Super RN Gas Passer said...

LUCKY

No beer tonight??? It's FRIDAY!!!

Hi DK:)

Ginger with a Soul said...

@ DK - ahhh I have the beer here and maybe some vodka (grape and pucker lemon). I also have both my equally crazy redhead sisters here so tonight shall be fun - time to let loose.

DreamerKind said...

@Lucky
Changed my mind-champagne instead. I woke up again today, a cause for celebrating at my age.

@Super
<3

DreamerKind said...

@Ginger
I'm with you and the sibs in spirit.

Ginger with a Soul said...

@ Super too :)
Hi ladies

Sister got blueberry beer - was shocked that it was good

DreamerKind said...

@Ginger
Oh, that Berry Weiss is delicious. My son intro'ed it to me and there's a raspberry one also. Beer will be my chaser, later, for chasing the blues away, unhappy news away.

Super RN Gas Passer said...

Hi OLIVIA

When do you go back to school??

DK and LUCKY

We are downtown listening to a local band in the alleyway of our best restaurant and while this isn't LA. You would be surprised about the local talent around here. There is a local girl here. Named Toribeth. ( not to be comfused with TORRIMARIE...lol)she plays guitar in a band called Virtually Unshockable. She is incredible. Its amazing how much talent is out there.

Anyway it's Tangueray Gin and tonic for me tonight!

Ginger with a Soul said...

@DK I am so very sorry to hear that - are you ok?

DreamerKind said...

Chase The Blues Away

Jeff Buckley:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiDTguPTGDw

Lyrics
http://www.asklyrics.com/display/tim-buckley/chase-the-blues-away-lyrics.htm

Super RN Gas Passer said...

DK

My cell phone battery is almost dead. I will call you after I get home

PamH said...

@torrimarie
I totally agree with you.

Just because I am disappointed and saddened by what Kristen did does not mean I'm no longer her fan. I only want her to learn from this and realize what caused her to hurt people who loved her and grow from it.

If they decide to part ways I hope that as time passes they could at least be friends again one day.

I hope by November all this anger and hate people have will die down or I feel that Kristen especially will have a hard time making it thru photos and autographs at the premieres without someone hurting her. No matter if Rob doesn't forgive her he still wouldn't want her to be hurt because of what happened.

I can't wait to at least see pics of Rob in NYC so we can all see if he is doing alright.

DreamerKind said...

@Ginger
I am as ever, all right, for my core is forever strong, supporting more than body, as spirit rises to every need.

Others must find their own core and do, but if they pass my way, I hurt with them. Gifts that we can give, return to us.

Selfish? Damn straight. We work with the deck that is dealt.

My bubbly is fizzy and tickles me and my nose. I chose that.

DreamerKind said...

@Super
Call anytime, but no worries. All is well. Have fun.

DreamerKind said...

Mail call, so back soon.

Anna said...

Just sitting down reading Rose's post again. I always read them at least three times til she put another ome up. They always made me smile big time and lol at my desk at work. Yes my coworkers would say " what are you laughing at!" I just can't swallow this! If yoou go back today and look at the pics again, Rupert (fuckin a Rupert) is looking straight into the lens! In another pic, Kristen looks back and smiles with a "you go this" look on her face! Kristen does not care about her reputation. Either I am in serious denial, or this really did happen, OR Rob and Kristen are seriously scamming us! Until I see with my own two eyes they are no longer together, I am refusing to believe all this breakup/cheating crap!!!

Anna said...

If they are scamming us, they better have ran off and got married after all this stress and sadness they have placed upon us! Yep, I am in denial! Lol

Ginger with a Soul said...

@Anna - I don't think your alone - I think a lot of people have weird issues about those pictures

Anna said...

Well,when all this cheatin news broke I didn't believe thought "here we go again!" Then Shaun and Taryn started to like confirm it by their tweets. I don't know if Rupert and his wife are that close to Rob/Kristen to help them pull off something of this magnitude, but you all need to go back and look at R/K walking out on stage at the TCA's again! Rob was proud as can be holding Kristens han and she looked like the cat that just swallowed the canary!!! They were closer than ever that night! Websites are coming down, twitter is changing, this is what they want--they're privacy back!!! Not only are they punishing us right now for being crazy fans all up in their lives but they're laughing at us b/c what they set out to do is working! They are taking they're lives back from us b/c they can't leave their home!

luckystrike87 said...

Anna,

I find it really hard to believe that Rob and/or Kristen would set this up to scam us. Why would Rob want to make himself appear to be humiliated and basically a schmuck for being fooled? And Kristen wouldn't want to get a reputation as a homewrecker, all just to gain their privacy back? No. I do believe that someone may have set this up with Rupig to have it photographed. Rupig had to have been fairly confident in his seduction skills for this to work but there is no way Rob and Kristen did this to themselves. If we believe that, then they are not evern remotely who we thought they were.

DreamerKind said...

THIS! ^ ^ ^

Annie said...

If they did, it would be the greatest thing to have ever happened to creepy as hell over invested so called fans and out of control tabloid journalism.

I would cheer them on.

Anna said...

Cheating Kristen is not the Kristen we know...c'mon!

Holy said...

Oh thank goodness we have music and drinks today.

Ana-I'm with luckystrike,I don't think Rob/Kristen set this up.I think Rupig was the one who set her up,to destroy her and Rob.I just hope that this pig will never work in HW again.

Annie said...

Anna: Exactly!

Ginger with a Soul said...

I am not going to say I didn't have theories like Anna in the beginning either (not sure she really cares what other people think of her since they have been slinging the names for years and never were nor would ever be her real fans) - the board has been filled with them. Sometimes the fantasy is better than the reality although we now next to nothing about the reality accept what the media is spoon feeding us or what our own takes would be if we were in the situation.

“There was a magazine, with these pictures, saying I was getting married. No one ever knows what is true or what isn’t,” he says exasperatedly. “Even my own mum called to ask me if it was true.”

I am with a couple other people - I feel terrible about this but come on next scandal so the focus is not this everyday every hour from the media.

Berry said...

Wow GREAT post Rose...I am rooting for both of them!

bubblejoi said...
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Ginger with a Soul said...

I just want to point out looking up quotes in my state took a lot of effort

DreamerKind said...

Correction-above artist was Tim Buckley not Jeff.

DreamerKind said...

@Ginger
Good job, luv!

DreamerKind said...

Howdy, Annie, bubblejoi, Berry, Anna, Holy. Olivia, PamH, and anyone I've missed.

@Boogie
Where ya?

Annie said...

Hi DK: :)

luckystrike87 said...

Anna,

If I am going to believe even a small part of your theory, tell me how does this give them their privacy back? Pictures of them together or apart are now at an all time premium and will be for quite awhile. They would have to be even more secretive than ever to maintain this farce. Ther is no fvcking way they set this up.

Anna said...

@ginger, that quote suggests maybe he knew something...idk...I do know I need to bathe my kids...they played hard today! Good night everyone!

Anna said...

@ginger, that quote suggests maybe he knew something...idk...I do know I need to bathe my kids...they played hard today! Good night everyone!

Anna said...

@ginger, that quote suggests maybe he knew something...idk...I do know I need to bathe my kids...they played hard today! Good night everyone!

*I*Believe* said...

Hi everyone!

The trolls are back AGAIN! Valeria and 22-GO SUCK AN EGG AND DON'T COME BACK!!!

I feel so sorry for Ladyevenstar....she is a week behind all of us in this mess...bless her heart....hang in there Lady we're all with your!

Birdie said...

Thank you Rose,for being here.
I have to agree with whoever said this above. The continued viciousness of all those commenting or those finding humor about this situation says more about them than Rob or Kristen. Mean people are just plain mean.
To Rob and Kristen,
All I can say is remember "grace under fire".
Have a good evening ladies and gent.

DreamerKind said...

@IB
Yes, she has had quite the shock just learning.

@Ladyevenstar
Comfort is available in past days songs and comments. Or hang with us and talk it out. Been there, done that.

DreamerKind said...

@Anna
Can picture the bath with little rubber duckies, so cute. Family first and last. Goodnight.

wig4usc said...

I'm standing and applauding your coments, Rose! Love it! And it speaks to some of what I'm reading, even here it in the comments. I know we all want to be heard and understood, but at what cost, people?

DK - I'll have a beer for you, one of my famous Michelada:

glass rimmed with Tajin (citrus chile salt)
ice
Worchester sauce
Cholula or Tapatio hot sauce
lemon juice
more Tajin in the drink
stir
add one beer, Mexican beer is dandy ,but any you like will do too!

enjoy!

DreamerKind said...

@Wig
Thank you, for something new to try!

PamH said...

Total change of topic but is anyone beside me dying to see a photo of TomStu baby girl? I wonder if she has his dark hair and beautiful eyes or if she looks more like her mother.
I can see her being spoiled by all the Brit pack boys, Rob for sure :-)

PamH said...

Roses photos of him with Rob just got me to thinking we haven't seen much of him since he became a Dad, but we know how busy that time can be !!!!

torrimarie said...

How many of us would like to have our greatest hurt play out before the world's eyes? How many of us would like to have our greatest embarrassment played out before everyone?

Who would love to wake up and know that your biggest regret in life is about to be splashed across every magazine, tv show and talked about on every blog?

How enjoyable would it be for you to turn on the computer, radio or tv and see the jokes flying around about your pain?

Can you imagine seeing people make horrible comments in a public forum about the person you love? Even if someone has hurt you deeply, love does not fade away overnight.


Does anyone truly believe that Rob or Kristen are so callous and uncaring that they would subject each other, their friends and their families to this kind of pressure, invasion of privacy and embarrassment?

If you can believe that of them, then I am left to wonder why you care about such people.

This is a real event in real lives, that just so happens to be taking place in the public eye. It's hurtful, painful and embarrassing to have so many people know your private business.

Please do not make this worse for them by turning this into a platform for an absurd agenda. Would you like this invasion of privacy in your life, or your child's life?

torrimarie said...

I apologize for my diatribe everyone but a couple of the comments I saw that were posted earlier today were so over the top that I wanted to address them I hope you will overlook my rant.

DreamerKind said...

@torriM
Overlookeded but not unheard. Don't believe I'd want to play my life out on the media stage either. Trust in them and their humanity and integrity, that's what I'm doing.

DreamerKind said...

Spelling challenges now in effect due to champagne and a bit of cognac...sorry.

torrimarie said...

Thank you Dk, you're very sweet

DreamerKind said...

Give It The Old College Try

It Takes a Lot To Laugh
It Takes a Train To Cry

Leon Russell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTsyAUraJK4

Lyrics:
http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/l/leon_russell/it_takes_a_lot_to_laugh_it_takes_a_train_to_cry.html

Ginger with a Soul said...

@torrimarie - I won't get into my theories as really they are just that, hell I have days full of theories on 9/11.

I don't think people aren't supportive because they are trying to make sense of what appears to be a very illogical situation (goes back to what you said - we never looked at Kristen as a home wrecker which btw that name is so overused and just pisses me off - he was married, he made vows and anyone with a pair of eyes can see he was clearly the aggressor - he broke his own house). Someone tipped them off - that they have no shame saying - that is where all the speculation comes from. I am not saying it is Rob/Kris at all but someone is playing a sick game and used the paps to unfold it.

After waaaaay to many lemon drops (I used pucker lemon vodka) and watching people draw the lines in the sand and deciding that they can now only be a fan of one or the other but 2 weeks ago sure supported both - I think I am more sad for us as fans at this very moment. People that were "friends" no longer talk or are pitted enemies over people, while we adore, we don't really know.

How are you liking pregnancy btw - I have 5 kids but I hated being pregnant (I love the babies but hated the process)

As always my hope is for them to come out of this ok - what fun is it to watch a fairytale if we never believe it can come true.

Ginger with a Soul said...

@torrimarie- I almost asked if Liz22 and valéria took the day shift and Nina the night shift earlier

DreamerKind said...

@torrimM
Shucks, I aim to please, when pleasing makes sense, as you do.

God, I forgot how the Blues and Leon make me happier. How can that be?
Listeners?

Oh, why not..Rob and Kristen:

Play some, man, you were in f***ing Baton Rouge for months and cannot resist.

DreamerKind said...

@Ginger
Want me to hound dog you? We are of one mind.

Ginger with a Soul said...

@DK -= :) sorry twitter went insane so I had to see what happened now

ladyevenstar22 said...

i believe and DK thanks for your words! i'm a little better now after the intial blow this morning! i feel like i'm in mourning , listening to joni mitchell "both sides now" on repeat !
i know i said i might not be able to read previous posts and comments but i've now calmed down enough to realize i need the support and won't find it anywhere else really!
oh well what is done is done , it will be a long very long time before i get over this, its so raw right now , i mean she's not the first actress to do something similar , other do drugs ,alcohol etc and they come out on the other side alive and with me still as a fan after getting over it !so even though it doesnt feel like it right now i'm going to hold on to that thought while i drown in pessimism ...
i actually went out in the rain this afternoon and took a bus for about 15mn to nearest BK and got myself a double bacon cheeseburger menu and asked to go large! after missing lunch i kinda bummed out and figured fast food was the way to go and sulk!
i'm ok though mostly pensive now!

DreamerKind said...

Repeating What Dylan Saw And Is Today

A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall

Leon Russell:
http://nblo.gs/ACVIP

Lyrics:
http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/rememberthetitans/ahardrainsa-gonnafall.htm

DreamerKind said...

@Lady
You are a strong cookie, and sweet. God, I want a cheeseburger but only have ham and that doesn't cut it. :)

rxlady60 said...

If anybody care to know Robstenation is saying goodbye to her followers but will continue to support Robsten

DreamerKind said...

@Ginger
What insanity? Don't want that. I hang with Old Sane Ones on there.

Ginger with a Soul said...

Britney Spears

Everytime

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YzabSdk7ZA

Lyrics

http://www.elyrics.net/read/b/britney-spears-lyrics/everytime-lyrics.html

DreamerKind said...

@rxlady60
Thanks. S will move down her road, so much work to bring clarity, and will find many have been lifted. Her turn.

Robert said...

DK OMG OMG OMG

i spend a week in all my lit classes going over this song. do you know all the biblical references? it's fun to try and dig them all out kinda like a game of where's waldo. it's also proof that bobby was a jewish christian long before he converted [no wait i forgot that the poem must always stand on it's own][they learnt me that in graduate school

Ginger with a Soul said...

@DK - it is what rxlady60 said and something else.

Can I say that what Delaney said was classy

DreamerKind said...

@Robert
Darling, tell us. I am getting drunk tonight. Hope I crash early but won't. Put up with me? XO

DreamerKind said...

@Robert
Look for me in your class in BR. surprise.

DreamerKind said...

@Ginger
Say what you mean, like Sir Paul and Delaney tries to make sense, doesn't she, being in that that business?

DreamerKind said...

@Robert
As I reread what you wrote, I die over and over!

Ginger with a Soul said...

DK - It was heartfelt and so honest - not enough of that going around - like I said she said it so classy

rxlady60 said...

@DreamerKind i hope Rose will keep this happy place open no matter what happen with RK,she and S are the only blogger i trust when it comes to RK

torrimarie said...

Ginger, thank you for asking, right now I feel so fat and the heat is really, really hard on me right now. I shudder to think of what our electric bill will be, because of me constantly needing the air conditioning. But other than a few minor discomforts, I am really loving being pregnant.

I will not of course indulge in any further theories, but I will simply say that there doesn't seem too have been too much damage to that home that was supposedly wrecked. People living in that not so wrecked home, do not seem to be having the same problems as others. I am guessing that is simply because those people are uninteresting and unimportant. Of course I could be wrong.

bubblejoi said...

I get the sense that the gossip sites are running out of ridiculous angles at this point. It reminds me of the low carb craze. I need to stop reading them because it's nothing but a bummer.

I'm looking forward to setting my eyes on Rob during the Cosmopolis promo. I just want to see him in the flesh and send him good thoughts as he dives head first into the hornets nest.

Hopefully if it's true that they are actually speaking to each other, they are able to block out all the outside stuff as best they can to figure out what's the next best step for them together and/or separately.

BD2 promo is still relatively a long ways away. I think by that time even if they haven't moved any closer back to friendship or back to a relationship that they are both professional enough to handle interviews and carpets without letting their personal life interfere with the project. I hope at some point between now and October/November Rob will get to the point where he'll be willing to meet up in person. There's no way it could be good for his first time being around her again were at some press related thing for
BD2.

Stay strong Rob and Kristen.

I sure miss the Robsten bubble.

Goodnignt all.

Ginger with a Soul said...

@torrimarie - I was ok until 7 months then it was all bets off - one of my kids that they induced 2 weeks early was over 9 pounds yet I had 2 more beauties after her.

Nah you are not wrong - their lives don't sell papers nor does it serve to feed gossip.

DreamerKind said...

Pending further action. Many homes are built on stilts and withstand waves and water but do not reflect eternity nor good design.

Robert said...

put up with you? talk about your easy assignments

okay, from memory [i'm just showing off at this point]

the song is about nuclear holocaust being the end of our time on earth, which he references when he says "a black branch with blood that kept dripping" next i believe is the tower of babel "ten thousand takers whose tongues were all broken" then you have "the roar of a wave that could drown the whole world"---noah's ark then you have i met a young girl whose body was burning" adam & eve because there is only one way to repopulate the world. but the last stanza is the best he says i'm going back out BEFORE the rain starts falling and in that one stanza he goes through the apostles, moses [reflect it from the mountain so all souls can see it] and jesus [i'll stand on the ocean...]

well whaddaya think

DreamerKind said...

@Robert
Desire knows no bounds! If we are able, we will live without limits, beyond measure, but not without cost, ending in bliss. It's hit or bliss, and shock or awe.

I'm sending you an email.

lula said...

@freddie, it's disgustng what stern said about rob. he pretty much called him stupid, and said go kristen you cheat! howard stern isn't the greatest person to tell you about morals. the only people that are happy about this are nonstens and nonberts. i've seen many people call out the nonstens, but i haven't seen anyone call out the nonberts at this time. they are saying rob was abusive to kristen, rob got what he deserved, and rob is a whimp, and rob needs to stick up for kristen. rob has been publicly humiliated by the person who loves him, he isn't going to say anything right now. everyone knows how important his privacy is to him.

Robert said...

DK
do you still have my address?

.......... said...

Well now...
Again i find myself coming in here and reading all the comments,
I don't know why i have a long line after my log in but my name is Tempest and i run a blog of my own and we will just leave it at that.]

It has been an 'emotional' week for us all - up one minute and down the next. For my part in all of this, my thoughts on Rob and Kristen have always been cut and dry. I work in therapy and i have witnessed and dealt with some very emotional and broken spirited people. It is very sad when two people are hurting; one taking themselves apart while the other is angry and confused. But i have always said that if there is love there and they both still love each other, then that love needs to be strong enough to help them through.

Yes i have sat and watched some 'opinionated' people in this fandom rip Kristen apart, hurl offensive and disgusting assumptions in her direction and i have felt nothing but the deepest regret for those who are not in this situation, yet you afford up your thoughts and your beliefs as if you are speaking the gospel truth. The sad case in all of this is too many invest too much of their time in this - believing you know best for Rob Pattinson, when you don't.

The young man is hurting we all can feel that and understand that, but so is the young girl in the centre of all this, yet that gets constantly overlooked. In a relationship that has this kind of problem; the solution is not to turn your back on the person who has injured and protect the injured one. You look at both of them, you try and work out why it has happened and then from that point onwards you look to then try and understand the reasons on both sides and try and make them heal.

DreamerKind said...

I can stop any convo dead with my thoughts. Usually ends in laughter though.

.......... said...

In this case; these are not people i have in front of me right now. I can't just sit and listen to both their sides and offer up my ear for listening and my thoughts for comfort and resolution.

Instead, i offer my hope and my sincerity that they can get through this by reaching out to each other, finding out why it has happened and then decide to heal or move on separately.

It is so easy to blame one member of the party, so easy to pass judgement on a young girl's stupid mistake. But believe or not, we are not perfect, the human race are not immortals. We can't sit on high and pass judgement on those below us, like we believe we have the right to.

Forgiveness is someting we have in us, the emotion to try and understand that we all make mistakes and it's those mistakes that we learn from. Right now, no one is beating themselves up more right now that Kristen herself. She blames herself in all of this, her part in the sorry mess we have found ourselves wrapped in. She has not blamed anyone else, or any problems she may or may not have been happening in her private life...she blames Kristen.

She loves Rob; her very confession alluded to that fact that she has hurt him deeply and for that, she will never forgive herself for.
Do you think Rob in all his anger and just shock, wants her hurting anymore than she is already putting herself through - are you that callous a fan to believe that?

Then clearly you have only ever been invested in him and him alone, and never stopped to think that a couple who have embraced love and been together for over 3 years, can suddenly stop loving each other. Ido believe in all my heart he loves her very much. She has let him down and shocked and angered him, but when the anger disappears like a fog, you are left in a state of bewilderment; why, when and how did this happen to me?

A lot of you are right, he does need to search for the answers, but he is not going to find them on his own, he needs to be able to sit and talk to Kristen; to find out why this was done, why this took place, and how do they get back to where they had been?

You are also further right, it won't be the same as they had before, because before will always be tainted with what took place. But they can, if they believe their love is strong enough to move forward and start afresh. Lay all their emotions out, communicate instead of putting it off. Understand each others feelings and stop hiding behind a cloak of negativity.

When you strip yourself raw of all your emotions, there is nothing left but a blank canvas, and you draw on that canvas what you want in your life.
You don't suddenly stop loving someone because they made a mistake. You are disapppointed in them yes, but you don't stop loving them.

I offer my advice as bet as i can;
Shout, yell, get angry at one an other. Cry and shout some more. Then hold each other, absorb each other's pain. Show how much you are sorry for what has happened by proving it. Words are meaningless when you don't back them up.

If Kristen wants Rob and only Rob, then she has to prove that her love is genuine and true. She has to prove he is the man she wants to be with; the only thing she wants in her life that is greater than anything else and that includes her career.

If Rob is angry at Kristen but still loves her, then only he can swallow the anger because it will only eat him up inside. Decide if she is worth a second chance, decide if his love for her is stronger than his anger.

When they can reach that decision, then they will move forward and they will beat this.
Why let one man come between them, why allow him to win?

Thanks for listening xx

rxlady60 said...

I'm not so sure if someone posted this song already, but here it goes.

For ROB:

"Love Don't Run" - Steve Holy

This is gonna hurt, this is gonna hurt like hell
This is gonna damn near kill me, sometimes the truth ain't easy
I know that you’re scared of telling me something
I don’t wanna hear, but baby believe that
I’m not leaving, you couldn’t give me one good reason

[Chorus:]
Love don’t run, love don’t hide
It won't turn away or back down from a fight
Baby I’m right here and I ain't going anywhere
Love’s too tough it wont give up no not on us
Baby Love don’t run

Let’s lay it on the line, I don’t care if it takes all night cause
This is gonna make us stronger, it’s gonna make forever longer
I know it’d be easier walking away but what we got is real
And I wanna save us, baby we can do it, Baby we’ll get through it 'cause...

[Chorus:]
Love don’t run, love don’t hide
It won't turn away or back down from a fight
Baby I’m right here and I ain't going anywhere
Love’s too tough, it wont give up no not on us
Baby Love don’t run
Baby love don’t run

[Bridge:]
So come over here and lay down in my arms
Baby tell me everything that’s on your heart, 'cause...

[Chorus:]
I won’t run, and I won’t hide
I won’t turn away, I just wanna make things right
Baby I’m right here and I ain't going anywhere
Love’s too tough it won’t give up no not on us
Baby Love don’t run
Baby Love don’t run

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3HAVoeuOsU

DreamerKind said...

@.....said

Tempest (tossed and turned):

A look from a distance provides calm and I get that from your stance on supporting RK. Like both sides now w/o the illusions to recall but the love instead which is what only matters.

KL said...

Bravo, it's a touching and solid feedback.

DreamerKind said...

@Robert
Did you get my drift? First, the tide, rushes in..

bluetiffanyxoxo said...

looking at the bright side, if anything will soften Rob's heart it's the vitriol directed at Kristen.


Only Rob has the right to be angry, seeing all these hateful mean comments about Kristen might trigger his protective side....

Robert said...

WOW tempest

that was suitable for framing
i am crying like a little girl over here

back in a while...i gotta go turn my man card

DreamerKind said...

Here I go:
I believe in Rob. I see you, Kristen.
We love what we feel, all of us. Peel me a grape, won't you? It isn't easy.
Grapes taste great when ripe. Wait.

lula said...

@anna, she did cheat. the pictures don't lie. there have been some crazy rumors since this all started. the newest one is that kristen set this all up to move away from twilight. i might have lost all respect for kristen, but i believe in my heart of hearts that she wouldn't be that cruel. no matter what rob does i will respect choice. i just wish some robsten fans and kristen fans back off from him already. unless you have ever cheated and publicly humiliated the way he has no one knows what he is going through. give him the time and space he needs. if the mags are right then it sounds like he is starting to talk to her again. baby steps.

Holy said...

@Tempest,nice words.

DreamerKind said...

Sure You Have
Mellow Yellow Is Strong

Have You Never Been Mellow

Olivia Newton-John:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3HAVoeuOsU

Lyrics:
http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/olivia-newton-john/have-you-ever-been-mellow-11926.html

DreamerKind said...

Peel Me A Grape

Blossom Dearie;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKqDXqSBp0

Lyrics:
http://www.leoslyrics.com/blossom-dearie/peel-me-a-grape-lyrics/

Monica said...

@torrimarie & @Ginger with a Soul, you rock!!

@..., thx for the sane comments. I hope those who are full of bitterness can really try to listen to you.

Rose, you are a tough cookie. I'm so sad that Robstenation is closing down. I feel like I'm losing hope...I know I shouldn't read BS articles out there. But I can't help myself. Read a piece about some psychic prediction shit that Rob will start a new realtionship in next summer. Arrrrrrr, I really can't imagine Rob or Kristen with someone else. God, their love was soooooo beautiful. The smiles on their faces were brightest when they're together. I really wish they could overcome this and be stronger as ever. True love is so different to find and shouldn't be let it go without a fight.

Fight hard, Rob and Kristen, God bless you.

Monica from Asia

DreamerKind said...

Can't believe I am drone-ing on, but I am, it's been a while.

So many mosquito bites, I may die from the itching or pure venom involved. Hello, West Nile. (Feel worried, well tell me so.)

Meanwhile. let's dance.

DreamerKind said...

It Only Happens When I Dance With You

Beverly Kenney (1956):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgcEfcI649A

Listen and remember to dance!

DreamerKind said...

Thank Me In The Morning

Ben Harper:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMJrvUSaAEA

DreamerKind said...

I'm a loose cannon, which means what? Guess, I'm open for discussion or at least feel strongly, like you.

Here, I stand, head in hand:

You've Got To Hide Your Love Away

Beatles:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAlrFJbGdgw

Lyrics:
http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/You've-Got-to-Hide-Your-Love-Away-lyrics-The-Beatles/EB2845EECA7D910C48256BC200134FDA

gaga4stew said...

It so sad to see Robstenation leaving us, it was the most respectful blog out there that supported them both. I'm going to miss S and I hope she comes back. Thank you Tempest for your lovely word you are so right. Its funny how some of you take people magazine like the gospel truth! So how do they know every call, text he made and how he is suddenly feeling. How do we know r/k are not together now, or they ever left their house? Who hire that uhual to taunt the photographers that they move out? So many questions and no answers. Bottom line we don't know anything neither do the tabloids that are writing lies and fanfiction. We never believe them before and why should I now.... I only wish them the best.

Lisa said...

I agree with every single word you said. The hate that has come as a result of this situation is disgusting and I'm ashamed that those "fans" were a part of our fandom. I'm ashamed at the rest of society that's been so quick and happy to judge about a situation people know nothing about! I'm ashamed that some Kristen fans are blinding defending her and blaming Rob for what happened. I'm ashamed that some of Rob's fans are happy he's hurting because it means that he's single now. WTF?!

I have my fingers crossed that R&K will work things out. I don't think 4 years together will be so quickly erased. They'll talk and work things out like mature adults. But, like you, I just want them to be happy, whether that's together or apart.

I think things are finally cooling down a little. The "200 Robsten articles a day" routine has stopped! I'm sure things will get fired up again when one of them makes their first public appearance but..things will be okay :)

DreamerKind said...

Your Sorrow Shows

Without You

Henry Nilsson: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz6WlCd4u0w

No lyrics listen!

DreamerKind said...

Not Listening & Don't

Everybody's Talking At Me

Harry Nilsson:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz6WlCd4u0w

Lyrics:
http://www.lyricsdepot.com/harry-nilsson/everybodys-talking-at-me.html

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sam powell said...

@Rose
Thank you for your post once again! This 'situation' opened up my eyes to see how mean and callous people are to each other. And are so quick to judge. I mean, enough is enough! What good does it do?

@monica
I felt like losing hope after reading about S closing down her blog too but was encouraged by the comments left by Tempest.

Today, I was just going about my way, doing my own things in the mall, and then I came across a vintage shop that somehow reminded me of RK. If small little things like that remind me of them, I cannot imagine how it is like for the both of them. Their lives were so intertwined and they've been each others' rock for such a long time so it's very hard for me to imagine how they will just give this up without a fight.

Based on K's statement, I choose to believe she would want to fight for this and probably came to realization that she loves Rob dearly. Though Kristen is probably beating herself up like crazy right now but I hope she would not wallow in guilt for too long to think that she is not worthy of anyone's love anymore.

So I pray for peace, strength, wisdom, hope and love for them. Whatever they choose to do, I hope that they would choose what's best for them and not what they think the world wants from them. I just want both of them to be happy, together or apart.

Oh and staying away from gossip sites and twitter has helped me tremendously. I suggest the same for you (and the rest of us). Let’s just hang and support each other here! ;)

DreamerKind said...

@sam powell
Yes. Hanging without a rope and supporting them and us. Beautifully expressed sentiment.

sam powell said...

Hey @DreamerKind I just want to let you know, your comments are very much appreciated. You've been such an encouragement on this board and you should be sleeping soon! (or are you already awake?) ;)

Since we're sharing songs... This song has been in my head for days. I don't know if anyone here posted this yet…

For the both of them:

"Come Home"

[Verse 1]
Hello world
Hope you're listening
Forgive me if I’m young
For speaking out of turn
There’s someone I’ve been missing
I think that they could be
The better half of me
They’re in the wrong place trying to make it right
But I’m tired of justifying
So I say to you..

[Chorus]
Come home
Come home
Cause I’ve been waiting for you
For so long
For so long
Right now there's a war between the vanities
But all I see is you and me
The fight for you is all I’ve ever known
So come home
Oh

[Verse 2]
I get lost in the beauty
Of everything I see
The world ain’t half as bad
As they paint it to be
If all the sons,
All the daughters
Stopped to take it in
Well hopefully the hate subsides and the love can begin
It might start now, yeah
Well maybe I’m just dreaming out loud
Until then...

[Chorus]
Come home
Come home
Cause I’ve been waiting for you
For so long
For so long
Right now there's a war between the vanities
But all I see is you and me
The fight for you is all I’ve ever known
Ever known
So come home
Oh

[Interlude]
Everything I can’t be
Is everything you should be
And that’s why I need you here
Everything I can’t be
Is everything you should be
And that’s why I need you here
So hear this now...

[Chorus]
Come home
Come home
Cause I’ve been waiting for you
For so long
For so long
Right now there's a war between the vanities
But all I see is you and me
The fight for you is all I’ve ever known
Ever known
So come home
Come home

DreamerKind said...

@sam P

Come Home/One Republic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvA7Ej9N_5Y

And I am nodding..thank you.

ali mac said...

Good Morning to all Roselanders, wishing everyone a great weekend.

DreamerKind said...
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DreamerKind said...

If I Give My Heart To You

Nat King Cole:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1lBoyt1MOk

Lyrics:
http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/If-I-Give-My-Heart-To-You-lyrics-Nat-King-Cole/C3E3DE2F7EE439AA48256AF1000B366C

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