This is one of my favorite pictures of Rob and Kristen.
It was the beginning...
I really don't have any pithy comments anymore.
I'm kinda tired of the endless twitlongers
expressing anger/sadness/regret
about something that doesn't concern us.
I'm tired of all the judgement and accusations
about a relationship that we have only seen minutes at a time.
I'm tired of the undeserved hatred that Kristen Stewart has been
getting in this fandom from day one.
I'm tired of the assumptions and speculation made by
people who just want to profit off other peoples pain.
I'm tired that people seem to forget that Rob and Kristen
are flawed human beings...
and they have feelings just like you or me.
All I will say is that I want Rob and Kristen to find happiness
Wherever that road leads.
Yes.
I think when they come out on the other side...
They will be together.
But that's just me.
This fandom is incredibly selfish.
We don't want what is best for Rob and Kristen
We want what is best for us.
Let's face it...
The outcome we desire
whatever that may be
Isn't based on what will make Rob and Kristen happy...
It's what will make us happy.
I just want them to be OK.
No matter what I want or think will happen.
They deserve happiness.
I want people to just fucking leave them alone.
Rob is going to be on TV next week
promoting Cosmopolis.
I wish people could just focus on that.
I wish people could let Rob do his job
without having to put up with people screeching at him
about private intimate parts of his life...
Like they think they are entitled.
Next week is about Cosmopolis.
Rob is proud of this movie.
Rob is so proud of this movie that he is willing
to subject himself to some of the worst
this fandom has to offer.
Good Luck Rob.
I hope you have a LOT of security around you.
(and maybe some silver bullets?)
(and maybe some silver bullets?)
Final thoughts.
Normally I wouldn't post a pap picture of someone's baby...
But since you can't see baby Marlowe
I wanted to comment on something that I love about this picture
(Besides Tom... hair knot and all)
How protective Thomas is.
Look at him.
His arm is wrapped around the handle of the buggy...
He is holding on tight to his little girl.
He is holding on tight to his little girl.
How fucking adorable is that?
How adorable is HE??
Green Sheep.
Fucking forever.
2. I leave for Hawaii tomorrow morning.
I will be gone a week.
So...
I doubt I will be posting anything in that time.
Unless I'm sitting in a chair like the picture above
(which I plan on doing a lot, I may add)
and I get on my Ipad and post a picture or two.
It will definitely be hit or miss.
I have a dear friend watching the blog for me.
So all is taken care of.
Aloha!
Until next time.
Bye for now
And if you don't know where you're going
Any road will take you there
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«Oldest ‹Older 1401 – 1600 of 3558 Newer› Newest»@Perdido; There are so many things i can say about this situation and none of it related to anger.
Kristen is choosing to see the negative side and that is how she feels right now, everything is her fault; she lead him on, she was his friend, she was a support and then it all got messy.
Rob wasn't clueless to everything that happened, he possibly had his suspicions and most likely they did have arguments over it - let's just say a man knows when he feels his castle walls are being breached and even though Kristen might at that time told him there was nothing to worry about...
So we have this situation, a horrible horrible mess. We have a girl in a world full of hurt and blaming herself in everything and we have a boy who is hurting for a completely different matter.
What does she do?
Kristen believes it was all her fault, in her mind she was the one who is at fault here, she is the one to carry all the blame. But you see, there are two people that have caused this problem and one of this right now is getting away with everything. We understand that for Kristen, it was a momentary lapse in her judgement but it was Rupert Sanders who initiated all of this. If Kristen was to come out and say she was, then we would be looking at a completely different scenario, we would be looking at a girl who stopped loving the boy who fell in love with her - but i don't believe she stopped loving him.
She loves him so much she is pushing him away.
The main culprit, the one who should have known better, the one who had been harassing her and being very inappropriate is the one who is smugly sitting by and watching this disaster unfold. The one who didn't really care for his marriage vows or his kids he cared for only one thing and that was his fixation on this girl/Kristen.
Isis- I'm sorry, but I'm not sure I understand what you're asking me?
SueBee- just saw what you wrote about your dad. I'm very sorry to hear that. I wish him well...
Isis: My instinct tells me she's not a hater.
She/he just has questions........nothing wrong with that.
Look at it this way............Tempest and the rest of us here have given her/him some wonderful feedback based on our own experiences and professional knowledge.
Suebee - I'm so very sorry. I'm not how I would react if I received the same news. So my thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family.
Maria - I'm sorry about your son. I hope he is okay.
Annie - The poor man! While dodging eggs he suddenly glanced to the side of me and got a look of absolute horror on his face, when I looked to see what had caught his attention he bolted.The next thing I heard him on the phone saying "But she's almost out of eggs and there's a 12 pack of Coke in the bag, she's going to start on that next, we'll never get the stains off...no you need to come, the dogs are hiding under the table" Needless to say it defused the situation pretty quickly!!
@ali mac- Hi honey : ) what is your opinion when they ask rob if him and Kristen were like Charles and Di and he said "no not really".
And i saw someone on the twitter freaking out because he said "the things fall apart when they have to fall," something like that. And they were saying that he was not talking about Him and kris.
Muse - my condolences on your loss. Welcome back.
@Perdido; You can suggest to me that she was the willing participant but for all the years i have been working in Counselling and i have studied the human mind and body language - that girl did not look like a willing participant, that girl was trapped in something she did not expect to happen, she was over her head, and for that she is damming herself?
Victims do that, people who are put in compromising positions do that - they feel they led the person on and got what they deserved, in the case of Kristen - media and fan hate - self-revulsion because she feels she has let the people who loved her down. Self inflicting emotional pain on herself because she had an image and that image has now been destroyed and worst of all, the man she loved has been humiliated by it, embarrassed by it and mocked because of it.
Okay, those are all fanciful emotional words to describe someone's feelings - but that time has passed, the anger has passed the shouting and yelling has passed and what do we have left?
you are referring to Kristen feeling that she doesn't deserve anyone's pity, or sorrow or sympathy, you made the lovely remark of Kristen and broken china and how she can only be the one to clear her mess up - but you see you can't clean a mess up by yourself, it's impossible to put all that china together or pick it up and toss it away.
You need help, you need someone to sit down beside you and say, okay life is shit right now, everything looks like shit right now, but let's clean this up and see what we have?
I do believe Rob wants to do that and despite what Kristen feels she has done to him, he knows she is not a bad person, he knows she has made a mistake and he knows she is so full of self hate right now, it would be highly unlikely she would ever put herself in that situation again.
Picking up pieces does not mean she is weak to allow Rob to help her. She is making him hurt more by rejecting his help and that would only do more damage to him, i doubt Kristen wants to hurt him anymore than she feels she has already done, but by doing this, by pushing him away she is actually punishing him more.
Think about that one Perdido and get back to me :)
Susan - I'm so sorry to hear about your dad. I hope the outlook becomes more positive and you're right, we al need to love while we have the chance.
@Angelica poor guy, tell him I said he us a good man for putting up with his love.
@Pardido your right, Rob should not say anything, it's nobody's biz. R/K had done an excellent job keeping a low profile before everything happened. I say go back to that, they need to get back to "their" lives together pre-fuck up. This can't define them or side rail their lives anymore. It's time to face life together again and try to put it past them. As soon as they do, I guarantee the public will follow suit. I mean hey, does the public have a choice?! A resounding NO!
Kristen needs to pull up her big girl panties. She and Rob CAN do it together!
She and Rob have us to support them along with their families and friends. That us all they need to succeed! I KNOW they will too!
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@annie, @Sydney- Thanks for your wise opinions : ) If you all believe that he is not a troll , i will give the benefite of doubt. Only just because i believe in you all.
SueBee:
I'm so sad to hear the news about you dad.....That news hits very close to home here for me.
To others here or elsewhere suffering the same, my thoughts and prayers are with you.
SUEBEE, I am very sorry about your dad. Wishing you comfort and peace.
Isis- I'm sorry I misunderstood you. I don't think this person is a hater, or a troll, as Annie and Sydney have just said. I think they just have a lot of questions right now. Again, sorry for any confusion :)
@isis the Charles and Di answer in my opinion meant very little as he was a bit shocked by the question in the first place and by the reaction of the audience, so he just gave a quick answer.
In relation to the things falling apart statement, it was unrelated his love life, a lot of the things he said could be manipulated to suit anyone's agenda. The fact he is playing a character who is cheating on his wife doesn't help the situation.
This is only my opinion others may read it differently .
OMG.......Angelica! LOL.
Hi everyone. First let me say that Deb my heart breaks for you. Cherish every moment you now have with him and I know you will. My dad died unexpectantly and there wasn't a chance to tell him all I would have loved to but I hope he knowed I thought he hung the moon.
SueBee cancer is such a horrible word. My mom died with cancer five months after she found out. I feel your sadness and the feeling of loss even though they are still alive. There are no words to describe the way you feel when you hear this about someone you love. I wish I could give you a hug along with Deb. I will keep both of you in my daily prayers, along with your dads.
Maria sorry to hear about your son getting injured. Hope it's not serious. It had to be scary for you, you never want to see your child hurt. Praying for you both.
Annie... he hurt his shoulder while doing blocking/tackling drills. Nothing is broken, thank God, but he's got a severe pulled muscle with swelling. He has to take it easy for the next two weeks.
Thank you for your kind words of support. I don't mean to preach or force feed my advice. I just wanted folks to understand and recognize that we've all done things that we're not proud of. Things we regret and would take back if we could. Face it, if a line was drawn in the sand, I have a feeling there would be an over abundance of people on the side of the f-ups! LOL
The time has come for people to quit hurting each other. It's time for a mulligan. IMO these two deserve peace. If I had the ability, that's what I would give them. Cheers!
Hello again guys.
@Ginger-you're right f@ck the haters,their small in numbers.
@Freddie-yes Kristen's supporters express their outrage with Universal,but their back tracking now, and GC have an article that even if the next sequel will be focusing on the Huntsman,Kristen will still be a part of it as Snow White.
@maria-sorry about your son.
@SueBee-your in my prayers too.
So much wise, supportive and positive thougts...it is amazing to see. AngÊlica, Dottie, Tempest, Freddie, just to name a few...I agree with everything you all have said.
I hope it helps Perdido to feel more positive about things....everything will be OK, sweetie.
SueBee, so very sorry to hear about your Dad. Thoughts and preyers go out to him, you and your family. Wishing Himalaia well.
Damn...it's terrible to write in the ipad.
Take care everyone.
Josh is a gem. The interview was great. Just what Rob wanted.
Maria: That does sound painful.
How old is your son, if I may ask............Two weeks is a long time for an active child to take it easy. I think you might have your work cut out for you. :) ;)
Katy : You don't like typing on your I-Pad? I do less correcting on it than I do on my I-Phone.
Hi Katy!! Long time no run into. I hope you are well.
Sending lots of love to everyone suffering at he hands of cancer. Support one another as a family,stick together and spend as much time as possible with your loved one.
(((Hugs)))
Muse...my sincerest condolences...take comfort in that she lived a long life and was well loved.
Susan...I am so sorry to hear about your dad. You are both in my prayers.
@Oneheart...broke out in a cold sweat and felt like I was going to faint/ hurl...both. He broke his wrist last season, and I got this sense of deja vu when I saw him surrounded by his coaches again.
Susan,
So sorry to hear about your dad. Have some hope, a prognosis can change, attitude has so much to do with how the disease progresses.
Angelica,
You sound like a regular spitfire. I sure wouldn't want to get on your bad side, or be around you when your hormones get out of whack.
PL - I do have my moments....
ISIS
We love you! I think maybe PERDITO is just going through some difficult times in her life....I hope you will never go through anything like maybe she or Kristen have been through. We are here to support the bloggers and the actors...
PERDITO
I think TEMPEST makes a good point....wondering if the opposite situation had occurred , I wonder how would Kristen feel...knowing how deeply in love they ARE with each other IF ROB was the one to WALK AWAY under the misguided notion that he would ruin her life if he stayed iin the relationship and worked things out...Wonder how Kristen would feel if the situation was reversed...
The thing is this " poison" that supposedly is in the air right now will vanish as soon as the next Hollywood Scandal comes...which will probably be in the next week or two...
We are talking about the relationship OF A LIFETIME.... And the other thing and I promise I will shut up...Robs career success is due to HIS FINE ACTING ABILITIES...NOT WHO HE CHOOSES AS HIS LIFE PARTNER...Whoever the fvcking asshole that told her that her presence in his life was some kind of hocus pocus curse hanging over his life forever and ever should have their ass fired! NONSENSE...
Good Night ROSELAND
I just watched the MTV interview and Rob seemed very relaxed. He trusts Josh.
When he answered the question about Twilight's last movie, I thought he seemed very relaxed and I couldn't detect any nervousness. That says to me that he & Kristen are already together or getting together. Otherwise, I believe we would have detected a "tenseness" about the promo. There's no way he could think about the movie without thinking about the crazy promo prior to the movie. Perhaps I'm wishful thinking? What does everyone else think?
Liz in LALA LAND
Annie...he's almost 14yrs old...yes, the next two weeks will be a trial. He doesn't do inactive well. ;-)
Haven't had a chance to read all the comments, but the theme seems similar: Rob should forgive KS and make their relationship work.
Rob has had his heart torn apart and the theme continues to be: Rob should forgive KS and work on their relationship.
Rob has had various interviews this week and still the theme is: Rob should forgive KS and work on their relationship. He has maintained a tempered disposition, trying to promote a movie he is very proud of - if others have commented, I have not seen it!
Relationships are difficult, and endless speculation is like the dog chasing his tail...I hope support for Rob does not include his forgiveness of KS as a prerequisite.
@Sue, sorry to hear about your Dad and I pray for the Lord will comfort you and your family during this difficult time.
Angelica, Just out of curiosity, how many sets of dishes or crystal do you go through a year?
Go Super RN, so true sister!
@Sue Bee - I am so sorry for you too and even hough we don't know each other I would reach out and give you a huge hug too. It is hard to loose loved ones - time is never enough
@Perdido - I think the best advice comes from Brewski - he seems to know what he is talking about. The first step is letting go - Kristen just needs to know she deserves his love - his support and not let go of that type of love - it is a once in a life time thing. She has a good man and I think it is time to let him be that man for her. Let him hold her - cry, scream and work it all out. They will both be better for it because no matter what you collect in life they are trinkets, love can make the world go round and complete you.
Sydney,
I agree, he was so fucking cute and seemed perfectly at ease. I've seen some people questioning the backwards hat, but I think it's cute and it keeps his hands from clawing at his hair all the time.
PL - Never more than 4 or 5 - O just get bored of the same old pattern ;)
@Ginger,Kristen's friend deleted Bear picture in her instagram.If that's a new pic of Bear,that means she have him all this time.
Ginger- I agree :)
Sydney & PL- I loved his interview with Josh!
Maria- I hope your son heals up quickly.
Muse- so very sorry about your mother ((Hugs))
Angelica- now I know why you're always shopping...the dishes need replacing lol ;)
MARIA, Sorry about your boy. Hope he heals quickly and as painlessly as possible. :)
I'm relieved for Rob that he is finished in NY. With the exception of a couple of awkward questions it went well. But then again, there are always some ridiculous questions, even in the best of circumstances. Bravo Rob!
Shoegal, I cant speak for the rest but there are no pre-requisites to my support of Rob or Kristen.
Thanks, everyone for your concern. Some of you don't know me or remember me so it's an exrra kindness that you are showing concern.
Hugs back to you and if I could hand out chocolate chip cookies, I would.
@muse-sorry to hear about your loss.
Sydney,
I might be a woman of some years but that jawline...Never knew that was something I liked before.
Where's Melinda because I know she'd have some choice words about that jaw?
Shoegal, Very nicely said.
This is what I'm talking about.
OTRpremiereLondon"”
Kristen's name appeared in the credits & ppl cheered!!!! :-)))
shoegal2547 -- You would need to go back a few hundred comments to find all the ones pertaining to Rob doing such a good job with his promo work this week. I'm sure there are hundreds of such comments.
I believe all of us here support both of them, whether together or apart. Because they have loved each other so much (it was always easy to see that) we all would love to see them happy together. If they decide to part ways for good, we will adjust. Might take some of us awhile, but we will still be supportive of each of them.
LIZ IN LALA LAND...
Does my support of Rob or Kristen depend on them getting back together.................Hell No!
Do I want them to get back together........Hell Yes!
Do I think they will get back together .........Hell Yes!
Do I think they still love each other as much as they ever did/ Maybe more........Hell Yes!
Do I think Rob should say in interviews "It's obvious whom he is dating" and "She's in that Walter Salles movie"..........Hell Yes! :) :)
Damn, he's lovely! Great interview.
Muse it is good to see you. You were a wonderful daughter to Babe. Your love for her was never a secret. I know you carry her with you in your heart and you will forever. Such a special bond the two of you had. Hugs.
Good evening everyone! wow is all I can say to the number of comments since last night.
SueBee sorry to hear bout your dad, sending a prayer your way.
Perdido I saw you were here, hope you are having a better day today!!
Hugs all around to everyone who is having a less than great day!!
Hey Roseland! Hold up your glue bottles!!!
Waves to MUSE. So nice to see you here, my friend. You already know how much I sympathize w/you on the loss of you dear mother. Life is too short. We must make the most of every moment with the ones we love because we never know what tomorrow may bring.
"Vogue which marks its 120th anniversary features the most influential people in fashion under the age of 45, and Kristen bagged the top spot"
"She's a lot more mature than I was at that age" - Sam Riley talks to us about the "wonderful" Kristen Stewart
Sam mentions Kristen "cool girl and great actress...she once tried to explain story of Twilight to me and it seemed mental to me"
Danny Morgan (Kristen's co-star in OTR) "She would've loved to be here because I know she's so proud of this film and her performance in it"
Danny Morgan says Kristen Stewart is "Lovely, Amazing, Great to work with & Incredible in On The Road"
Love is all around. All you have to do is open your eyes and heart to it.
Josh interview with Rob was awesome.Thank goodness,no are you okay question from Josh.
Hi IB!
There are so many great reviews for Rob and Cosmopolis I could spend all night posting them! WAY TO GO ROB!
It sounds like both Rob and Kristen have the rest of the yr free for the most part. Just what they need! I say get out of LA and go someplace where you can be anonymous and just enjoy the peace and freedom! You've earned it!
HI IB - Hi there. Crazy glue is at the ready!
Dottie - you're on a roll today.
Is there a maximum post limit on Blogger??? I hope we don't blow blogger up. Say that 5 times quickly....
Hi Dottie and Freddie!
Freddie, I was wondering about a blogger limit too
Dottie- I agree :)
Freddie- I wonder how many comments we'll be up to by the time Rose gets back? ;)
@Dottie,thanks for all those good news.
Now we know that Rob is okay and Kristen will be okay.I can feel the positive vibe is coming.
Hi IB- I was glad to read all is well with you and yours. Are you on break until September?
There's no limit on the number of comments for any one post.
Shoegal I completely agree with you about. I also know that until the last couple of days everyone wasn't exactly in agreement, I think however the mood might be changing a tiny bit.
@Holy - they were saying the picture was new which is why twitter went on melt down. I follow zero haters so I only see comments from the gals I follow to them but it is funny on the freak out - he appeared to be in Kristen's lap.
I wonder if this will hit over 2k before Rose gets back
(( hugs )) to all in Roseland...
may you hang on to the precious memories you shared with loved ones, find comfort in knowing you loved and were loved, sometimes
life hands us lemons and we make the lemonaide and it's just not enough to heal sickness or stop our loved ones from crossing over.. @ Sue Bee, Muse and now menapause has taken over I think Deb my heart goes out to you..
@ Maria first the bug fight and then the ER oh dear glad your son is ok... Tempest always a voice of reason... at all the regs (( waving )) hello it took over 2 hours to try and read and re-read but I know the common theme here in Roseland is Love,Friendship and great storeis we share ... we CARE for each other and we like Rob & Kristen as people and actors.. bottom line
We's good folk here in Roseland.. so I will keep on my ROSE colored glasses and hope for the best..
peace and love BWS aka MJ
Yes, Rhonda, back the day after Labor Day.
I wonder what Rose's comment record is?
Yes, Rob's interview with Josh was great. He looked more relaxed and himself. I love when he laughs and his eyes get squinty - not forced at all.
Saw the pic of Bear - he got so big!
I don't know any of you but my heart and prayers go out to all that are hurting, have had losses and have learned that loss is coming. Each day is a blessing given to us, let's give it back and be a blessing to all who cross our paths. As Rose would say, "All you need is love".
Thanks for all the great comments and from the hearts, Roselanders! You all are special!
I don't know, but this is the most I ever remember us having...
Goodnight everyone. Tempest, I guess it's good day to you :) Hope to talk with you all tomorrow.
Lots of love...
On a note of my support - I have said this from the 1st post - I support Kristen, I support Rob, in my heart of hearts want to see these dynamic kids make it through this together and make beautiful music and get a chance to make a life and future together but I will support them together or apart.
I do not need to nor will I choose one or the other - this is not a war. Nor does a comment I say for one take from the other - they are a package deal for me.
My responses are to someone who feels troubled and if any little word I say can help or bring any comfort - then I am glad. I don't offer help with a pretense, conditions or judgement.
@Perdido, and do you think in your mind that Rob still deciding to stay with her because she 'royally fucked up' is out of duty or out of he doesn't want to look like the loser in all of this? Do you think Kristen hurting him even more by sending him away is going to achieve anything?
The lad came across the world to work with her and fell in love with her and yes she fucked up but she is not a child she is a young woman with a lot of insecurities at the best of times.
Of course she could have stopped it, of course she could have slapped him, yelled, screamed and bit him. She could have done many a thing but in that time frame from what i have seen of the images, she froze, she became unresponsive, she allowed him to have his kiss, allowed him to see that maybe he had a chance and then she got out of the car (in sequence) she could have handled it better, she could have brought a friend, hell she could have even brought Rob with her but she didn't.
SO she has to live in a lifetime of self inflicting pain because she could have chosen and easier option. Life is not that simple, no one's life is.
Kristen in those seconds got into a situation she handled poorly, you will be surprised how many rape victims i have counselled have felt exactly like that when the predator was their boss, and like Kristen, RS was and had been her boss, a manipulation he took great pleasure in.
Kristen is just as much a victim as you are claiming Rob is. She allowed it to happen because her inner conscience was too frightened to put a stop to it, as you said, for fear of upsetting him or getting him angry. HE was the one who should have known better, he was the one who had led Kristen into a false sense of security, he was the one who used both maturity and power to make her feel like she was responsible for this mess.
For a girl who has always had complete control of her life of her private life, she did the one thing that is now tearing her apart and making her feel it was all her fault.
You can try and say that Rob is not at fault and he is not, but maybe he could have listened a bit more, been more concerned over what was happening, because i do feel that it's possible Rob was told by Kristen that RS was getting or acting a bit weird.
You are putting the blame fair and squarely on Kristen's shoulders and you are wrong. The young girl is not some crazed junkie who doesn't give a damn about her life except having a good time. She is not some alcoholic misfit who is not bothered about what is going on in the world and she will not be painted as another young child star gone wrong.
She was caught in the middle of something that was splashed across the papers and yes, she apologised for it and it was a heartfelt apology but don't you think she has done enough of the self-flogging, enough of feeling that everything she has done was her fault?
Rob i am sure has been told the truth and despite your feelings in all of this, he understands or at the very least has the compassion to try and understand. He may well have been deeply angry and deeply hurt by what was done, but that anger only lasts long enough for you to say to yourself - what the hell went wrong and go looking for the answers. IF Kristen has been 100% truthful to Rob, then he has two choices - go around and act out in anger towards RS, or try to put right what went wrong, find out why Kristen felt compelled to sort this out herself.
Find out why she never told him everything, believing that this was none of his business - pride and self preservation are the two emotions we as women have, we don't feel that men should be involved in our crisis when in fact sometimes when we fall it's okay to allow them to pick us up.
She did not have an affair, as much as RS would have loved that to happen, she did not lay herself out naked for the whole world to see, but what she did do was allow a man to kiss her who wasn't Rob and for that she is paying the highest price by the vitriol she is receiving. Don't you think she has done enough looking for her pound of flesh in this, don't you see that by continuing hurting herself and turning everyone away that want to help her and who actually love her for Kristen and not for her image - is causing more mental and physical damage to someone who doesn't deserve a ton of bricks dropped on her head?
Tempest- I think I love you <3
Okay, I'm really leaving now. Goodnight all...
@Pardido does what we are saying not make sense to her? Did you share my sister's story with her? If she can be forgiven and loved for her FAR WORSE fuck up, then why can't Kristen?
Does she truly love Rob? If she doesn't, then by all means she should set him free to find love again.
But you know what, I KNOW she loves him! With all her heart and soul!
So she has to STOP beating herself down to scum at the bottom of a pond. I also think she needs to talk to someone like Tempest to get her through this period in her life.
Hugs and please convey to her that way of thinking is way more destructive than the Fuck-up.
Good night Rhonda!
Perdido - if it played out the way you're painting it, then yeah she screwed up big time. Fine. But do you think she learned something from this? Would she EVER let something like that play out again? Would she ever disrespect (your word) Rob again? Do you think in that moment she stopped loving him? - because it doesn't sound like an intentional, premeditated act of "betrayal" but rather the act of someone who didn't know how to handle a situation and just made a really bad decision. From what you have assessed of Rob, do you think him incapable of understanding and forgiving her one stupid decision?
You are advocating that Rob have no say in this, when he should have a say in where this goes going forward.
Why choose more pain when love is offered? I don't get it. Life is hard enough.
@Freddie; absolutely, this is not a one sided relationship but one of two people in it and one in which someone made a really bad decision but ultimately it is up to both of them to either rectify the situation or let the main party in all of this win - and i don't believe either Rob or Kristen would allow RS to win in this, especially Rob, because what it does and is probably doing is emasculating him, and there is no way any man wants to be made feel that way.
He would want to fight back, prove he is the better man, prove that the predator did not win that he did by keeping his relationship with Kristen together, even is she is off on some deeply dark place in her mind - he is strong enough to know she will come out of this and strong enough to know that in time he can make her see sense. That everything outside their little 'world' means nothing, if he doesn't have her there to share it with.
And i believe @Perdido, Kristen feels the same. What kind of happiness do you think she wants by sending someone who loves her away and to say she doesn't deserve love is a very selfish thing to say, everyone deserves love and everyone deserves second chances to eradicate the mistake that was made the first time.
Perdido - Yes, we are all responsible for our actions, and in hindsight it's really easy to think about all the things that we should have done differently. No matter who you are, when a person is put in a situation where someone that you know and trust does something wrong that makes you think WTF, the first inclination isn't always to fight back. That doesn't mean that what the guy did is acceptable or deserved in the scenario you described. Rather than thinking about the whole thing as it relates to Kristen, Rob and the dickhead....instead think about if it was your best friend, her boyfriend and your best friend's boss. Would you blame your best friend and tell her that she has no right to consider happiness with her boyfriend because of this, or would you support her, fight for her and place appropriate blame on her dickhead boss??
Seriously, you really need to go back and read Tempest's posts a few times....she is making a lot of sense, and saying things so much better than I could.
Hi tempest is there like a way to talk to u n email or something? ur thing is private so I can't see can u let me know plz?
@SueBee I posted earlier about you dad, and then deleted it because I wanted say the same to Deb and Maria. I am thinking if all of you. You truly have the one of the hardest things to be faced with..
So you are soooooooo correct, you girls din't have a choice with what you are experiencing. Kristen does! She can choose to rise above her fuck up and accept her fallible humanity! She can do something about what she has been delt. She should choose love above all else!
Sorry for typos -- on my phone
SueBee - I am so, so sorry to hear about your dad. I know how incredibly scary this is, and I'm sorry that your family is going through it. ((HUGS))
Deb, Muse, Boogie, DK and anyone else I missed...I'm sorry about the loss and struggles that you are dealing with, too. Thanks for sharing your stories, everyone.... sending ((HUGS)) to all the rest of you, too.
Cherish those you love is the best advice I've ever been given....I've never regretted it. <3
@Em, sure you can email me and it's not a closed secret lol but my main one is; angelsslave1@gmail.com
Perdido,
Do you think Kristen has some more guilt in this than just what actually happened? I know that it is fun to have a man be attracted to you, even when you have no interest in him. Maybe Kristen kind of liked those overtures, only because they made her feel desired and a little powerful.
So maybe some of her guilt comes from that. Certainly, she's not going to tell Rob that she liked those early indicators, those flirtatious words. The thing is, we all like that. There is no shame in it. If RS made overtures, I bet Kristen was flattered and now is blaming herself for not stopping it then.
You know what, I've been there and so have a lot of women on this board I bet. Yeah, Kristen didn't stop it when it got beyond the flirtatious words and that was her big mistake. Whether Kristen or Rob work it out is not really my business, but as we've all been saying it's not solely Kristen's decision and I still think she wants to push him away as penance.
Tempest will probably disagree with me, but it's my opinion.
@PL; no i agree, every woman wants to feel loved, to feel desired and to feel special, and that goes the same way for a man.
BUT the defining thing is if you allow them to step over the boundary of simple flirtation and onto something more deeper?
It is in my opinion and people can disagree with me or not, but i believe Kristen did not go out to meet RS that day with the intention of having an affair. The girl is clever, she has money she would have booked into a hotel as @Perdido suggested. So it was not premeditated like some rags would have made you believe. She meets him on neutral ground, his offices and then at the lane way near his home. There is nothing to suggest that she was in any way believing there was to be anything other than talking. It is possible he filled her head with how he had been thinking about her and missing her and had feelings for her and this would have confused her and troubled her. As much as it is nice to think something thinks that way about you, the warning signals would have been there but Kristen ignored them because she felt she could handle herself - but she didn't. She allowed the lapse of judgement that lead to him thinking she felt the same way.
The kiss in the car from what i saw was initiated by RS and K is leaning backwards, his opening moment to think he is right where he wants to be and has Kristen with him. They get out of the car and sorry but she looks conflicted and is possibly trying to talk him down and he puts his arms around her and in a split second she looks vacant - she is uncomfortable.
Tempest doesn't work maybe something wrong but thanks anyway hope u have a good night
@PL that is how i see it, that is a girl who is trying to calmly talk someone down who is most likely throwing everything at her and it's confusing her more. She has spent 3 yrs having rags throw everything about her private life all over the place of Rob being out and cheating allegations of on set romances, the girl is bound to have had that eventually break down the walls and finally get to her.
She is 22 but she is far from being an adult completely, she has a lot of confusing issues running around in her head right now and wants answers to why she feels this way. She is painting Rob the Saint in all of this and she the ultimate Sinner - wrong, she's not she just got caught up in something she didn't know how to handle.
@Em hi em it should work, if not try iam_angelsslave@msn.com or angelsslave1@gmail.com i possibly spelt it out wrong.
please respond back when you see this
Thanks, Kay, sweetie.
Thank you Irish Eyes, so nice
I'm going to say this and then shut up.
I'm just a middle aged average woman going through something no one would ask for. Even so, I know I'll come through it because of those who love me.
I'm lucky in that.
Life goes on but if I had to do it without love and the arms held out to me, what's the point?
Maybe I am selfish, but I soak love up like a sponge. It's the only thing that makes life worth living.
Don't push it away.
Anyway, that's all
Tempest and Perdido,
I know exactly the feelings of thinking you can handle it, not wanting to make waves because this is a friend/coworker. I had almost the same scenario when I was about 23 years old. You laugh off the flirting, you joke and get out of an awkward situation. Mine was a coworker and I was married and it never progressed because I didn't want him, but still you think you can handle it. I wasn't going to tell my husband because he would make the situation worse if he tried to step in. But even though I wasn't remotely attracted to the guy, I was still flattered and enjoyed it on some level.
@Em if you are still hanging around i have changed my profile to link with my email lol just one of those silly things i have never got around to doing.
Perdido – it happened to me! It was my first year working – I was 22 – hmm sound familiar. My boss flirted with me. I was uncomfortable with it but didn’t do anything about it. And I found myself in exactly the same situation – kissing my boss in a stairwell because he initiated it and I didn’t know how to handle it. Luckily for me my “indiscretion” wasn’t captured on film and spread like wild fire by the media. It was ONE indiscretion, and I never put myself in that type of situation again. So by your definition I guess that would make me “poison”….but guess what, I’m NOT and I’m not defined by my this one situation where I didn’t handle it right.
Thanks Freddie and Angelica for admitting having the same situation.
Perdido,
Since we've come forward I bet there are going to be more stories of exactly the same scenarios. Kristen was not at all unique in this. She got caught where most of us were able to continue on without the whole world knowing. I finally told my husband and he walked into my place of work with a baseball bat. That was fun.
Hey lovely ladies
I found it on the net, It's so worth reading it!!!
OPEN LETTER TO KRISTEN STEWART
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/isi6k3
Kisses
<3 you all
Hi @RKsoulmates - isn't it wonderful, i was written by a good friend of mine online and she has such an open and caring heart but doesn't mix her words :)
Damn - I deleted my first comment to correct some spelling errors and I still find some...the last sentence should read "I’m not defined by this one situation that I didn't handle correctly".
Hi sweetSoul!!! yes, it's you @Tempest... Love your posts too,the last one was AMAZING e so true! Bronze is such an amazing person...I've visited her blog too...InvestKudos???Something like that???
XO
Hello everyone
First off for all those that are dealing with some family illnesses and tuff times just know we are all thing about you and praying for your families.
I just watched Rob and Josh and it was so good!!!! That was our Rob :-))))) finally someone knows how to give an interview. I loved when he said " This is not DR. Phil or Oprah, if that's what you want/think move on" I always loved Josh but now I love him more. Rob was so at ease and could genuinely laugh and smile <3
OMG!!! Ther are so many comments that every time I leave and come back and see so many more I feel like I've missed so much.
Those wonderful OTR boys saying great things about K.
I bet the haters are dying over Tom calling her his friend still.
It just makes me have hope that some of Rob's closest friends are sticking up for her :-)
@ ginger
Did someone post a pic of Bear?
It makes me smile to think maybe Kristen is keeping him while Rob is working, being with her Baby Bear would probably make her feel so HAPPY he would love her unconditionally.
Goodnight All
Good night Roseland...Tomorrows a new day. There's always hope.
Perdido
I was dating a guy at 18. His older brother who was married with two kids took advantage of me. I knew his family and trusted him completely. I was driving to Florida and he asked to go to with me to check on a business he owned in Miami. We didn't make it but to the first rest stop and he was touching me and kissing me. I never told anyone. I can still hear him flattering me and feeling uncomfortable and wanting him to stop.
I remember the guilt and shame I felt.
Freddie, PL, and Angelica, I could not have dealt with the whole world knowing.
Linda
Back to the dish analogy, in this case all the dishes are broken except for this one dish and it is the most favorite dish of all. The one you wouldn't trade for anything in this world. So what does the person do? Do they cherish that dish and be forever thankful that it is still intact OR do they take that dish and smash it on the ground w/the rest of the broken china?
PL, Angelica, Linda - it seems many of us have a lot in common. Thanks for sharing.
Freddie,
Exactly and it doesn't define us. It has now become a story I tell my kids and they laugh about their dad trying to defend my honor with a baseball bat. The guy in question was a lot bigger than my husband.
Oh and One Heart - you too. Thanks.
Perdido - I could have screamed at the top of lungs for help. I could have kicked him in the nuts. I could have pushed him away, gone straight to HR and put his ass in a sling, but I didn't...why???
As someone noted, hindsight is 20/20. It's easy to second guess what you should have done...
Also, wanted to send hugs to Sue Bee (Susan), and Muse.
I've read so many posts I can't remember everyone right now, but good to see so many posting their support.
Meadowgirl25, especially liked your plate story you shared.
PL I agree that episode in my life does not define who I am.
Linda
Oh PL, I'm imagining your hubby with the baseball bat.... LOL. What a good guy!
Freddie
I know, I kept trying to talk to him. Why didn't I hit him or dump him out at the rest stop. I think I just trusted him too much and was too young to realize I had no control of the situation.
@Pam - yeah Kristen's friend post a pic of bear in someones lap in a car
@Ginger is there a link to the post?
At some point you have to quit beating yourself up. Don't let it be too late.
LOve all you gals
Miss Rose and her posts that say how I feel.
Also, miss DK, where is she hiding?
Past my bedtime, keep the faith, tomorrow is a new beginning..
Linda
@bubblejoi- see if this works
http://pic.twitter.com/qJTib8Zl
Thanks, Ginger.
Night Linda - stay well.
Nite Freddie
You too, and tell Tomas good nite(smile).
Thanks for sharing your stories PL, Freddie, Angelica, Linda, Dottie and Oneheart,....I'm certain there are a lot of amazing, intelligent women like all you out there that have ended up in similar situations that haven't talked about it because they blame themselves for what happened.
Thanks for using that dish analogy again, Dottie. I think that is exactly what Kristen pushing Rob away would be...absolutely everything precious and good smashed to bits.
Love is so precious, and if there is any way to fight for it, be brave and do it...if there is a second chance, take it. I haven't been in the same situation as all of you, but I do know how hard it is to wish for just one more day with the person I loved, and who loved me with all my flaws.
@Wild
I've been on the road, on & off for two days, and only 40 miles away. All is well.
@Marley
Did you post some song requests that I may have missed or you actually posted the songs? :)
@Perdido
Garlic, lots of garlic, that's what works on what ills us. B vitamins. Brain foods. Sleep. Dancing in circles to Latin music.
Barefeet touching the grass or earth recharges/discharges negative ions & quickly lifts the fog from around our heads/hearts.
Chocolate. (Thinking of you and the how-to do's) <3
@Perdido Sorry if I came off too strong in my previous few posts, I just don't know how to convey to Kristen enough that the risk of love and being loved is so worth every effort in life.
The most selfless act a human being can do is to love in return. We all want love. We all NEED love.
Kristen, if you are reading this. Please take to heart these quotes by Martin Luther King Jr:
"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."
"Every person must decide whether he/she will walk in the light of creative altruism or in the darkness of destructive selfishness."
"Faith is taking the first step even when you don't see the whole staircase."
Please accept the light and the love. Please walk in the light of creative altruism, we love to watch you there. Please don't be selfish be selfless and accept love, help, and support. Please have faith, because I promise taking that first step will lead you to the grand staircase of true happiness in life.
I am 43 years old, I have lived long enough to have grown, learned, persevered, and faltered through my struggles in life.
In exactly 2 months I get to say I am 4 years cancer free from Melanoma Skin Cancer. It scared the shit out of me when I was diagnosed in October of 2008. I was told it is the fastest metastisizing form of cancer and the deadliest. I had to have invasive skin surgery, lung x-rays, blood tests, and see an oncologist right away. After that, I had to be followed closely by a dermatologist and oncologist until the five year mark - - one more year to go.
The one thing that got me through this dark period of my life, was reading the Twilight Series (very true story, I really did start reading it the day after my diagnosis). And then, witnessing the blossoming young love of the two young actors of the movie series.
Kristen, you helped me when I was at my lowest by entertaining me with your beautiful talent and the obvious "not lying" persona you project. You exude light, expression, and altruism. Please let us, your fans, give back to you in some small way. We owe you that!
To accept our gifts (the posts on this blog to your friend Pardido), you would have to heed the advice. Take it to heart, heal, move forward, and choose love!
Hugs and xoxo.
Goodnight everybody, off to read before bed.
@Dottie-I like your dishes analogy.
@Freddie,PL,Angelica,Linda-thanks for sharing your stories.
DK i posted a few songs that I thought you would like
Hi Roseland~
I'm still freaking out about what happened in my kitchen last night with the dishes!! Perdido, yeah, cue the Twilight music. I didn't get hurt. And I would stay up all night and pick up the pieces it if would help Rob and Kristen in any little way.
I was listening to this song on my ipod tonight. I would dedicate this to both Rob and Kristen. I can imagine them saying this to each other.
DOWN ON MY KNEES by Trisha Yearwood
Sometimes you wonder how much I care I get so distracted running nowhere And I take for granted our love is secure But if I started losing you, one thing is sure
I'd be down on my knees ready to pray, darlin' Down on my knees making you stay I'd be begging you please don't take your love from me I'd be down on my knees
I learned to be strong a long time ago And I can face any wind no matter how hard it blows But I'd have to be stronger than I want to be If I had to live without you loving me
I'd be down on my knees ready to pray, darlin' Down on my knees making you stay I'd be begging you please don't take your love from me I'd be down on my knees
No one matters more in my life Or makes me feel like you make me feel inside And I've come far enough to know love's worth never letting go of And love is not a matter of pride
I'd be down on my knees ready to pray, darlin' Down on my knees whatever it takes I'd be begging and pleading with you don't take your love from me I'd be down on my knees
link to song and video
http://www.metrolyrics.com/down-on-my-knees-lyrics-trisha-yearwood.html
I need to catch up with all the comments but really must post what happened to me when I was 19.
He was a friend and he asked me out on a date. I could tell he liked me more than I liked him but he had been pestering me so long to go out with him I finally agreed.
At the end of the date, he was supposed to be driving me home and we ended up in a deserted field. One minute I was sitting there, the next he was all over me. Kissing me wildly, hands roaming all over the place. I was so stunned and it happened so fast. And he was much stronger than me. If anyone had been there with a camera, it would have looked like I was going along with it and enjoying myself. But I most certainly was not. I began to get scared and he wouldn't stop. I managed to get my hand on the door handle and escaped out the door. I walked around to the front of the car where he attacked me again. He grabbed me in an embrace that I couldn't escape from. I went along with it a little bit because I was afraid he would rape me or leave me along in the field.
I tried to placate him and finally he agreed to drive me home. I have never been so scared in my life and I vowed to learn how to protect myself better in the future.
But if someone had been there with a camera, it would have looked like I was in the most loving embrace and having a massive makeout session with the monster.
sorry that song didn't format right.
Before I go to bed, I went back to read a few wonderful posts and I have to acknowledge you before I go to bed, you deserve praise.
@PL I know what you mean, I was almost the other woman once. So glad I didn't go there, but I almost did, because yeah, it does feel nice for someone to see you as attractive.
@Dottie you have such and upfront and eloquent way of speaking truth. Thank you for your words of wisdom.
@Angelica, @Freddie, and Oneheart again such unique diversity to your experiences... Yet astoundingly relevant to what Kristen is going through, I hope she heeds in our advice and offering.
Hugs all around, good night AGAIN! LOL
Tempest~thank you again so much for all of your posts. You are someone who can be trusted and your words are wise and true. Hugs
Thanks to everyone for sharing their personal stories. They have touched my heart. I know that I waited a long time to tell anyone what happened to me and to tell is power.
Also, one more thing I wanted to add...now, because of my profession, I know what I am talking about. LOL
Did you know that when you break a bone and when it heals, it heals and is stronger than before? Stronger than if you never broke it at all.
Ohmygosh, I ws heading to bed and then decided to pass by and 3 things I learned:
1. SueBee - so very sorry for yr father, may my words to deb comfort you too. You are true we shld always appreciate and enjoy the love of our dear ones.
2. Tempest *sigh* to be able to express your thoughts and feelings so eloquently has a lot to do with the heart, not only with the books you studied *superb*!
3. I had to come ouf of my self imposed lurkdom to praise you Roselanders for all you've written in the past few days re Kristen and especially to our old reg Perdido.
I will too put my 2 cents in the jar...
@ Perdido, may I ask why you're so hard on K? She's a remarkably fierce & caring young lady whom we all came to know and love like a young sis or (in my case) a daughter (make it granddaughter, Muse *wink*).
Long ago I was where K is and I let all these same misconceptions about ‘loving him much, knowing what was best for him’ clouded my better judgment. That certainly turned me into a rewarded executive but one who after 32 years still regrets not having done what was right.
I do not want that to anyone especially those 2 beautiful souls.
We humans are made of this, successes and failures, ups and downs. So, because she trusted a 'low life', she loses it all? Let 'it' win? Noooo way...
Wasn’t she who said never had to fight for anything? Well, there is the time for her to fight this battle. Doesn't she really really love him? Then I say she must do it otherwise she will hurt him BADLY. 10 times worst than anything else.
The china broke? Put it back but she’ll hv to accept she can’t make it on her own. She’ll hv to accept his hand and ‘share the glue’ sort of speaking.
Will their hands be cut fr the shards? Yes so what? How many times you fell fr yr bike when you were learning? Did it prevent you to keep on trying?
She knows she has his support and I don’t believe for 1 sec he will let others dictate what he shld or shldn’t do when it comes to her. There’s no such thing as ‘a better person for him’. She is who he wants to be with. He is whoe she wants to be with. She knew it all along, she still knows it. Just because she stumbled on some manure (that is what ‘it’ is) doesn’t mean she can’t clean her shoes and go along.
But again…that’s old me, sitting here and praying for the best. Murmuring to the Universe only positive words. Because words are powerful, so does love and love is what makes the world go round.
All we need is love. And that kind of love they hv is a very rare, very unique kind of.
So I say, fight it K! You know you're both worthy of it. Don't do anything you'll spend yr whole life regretting.
You're not alone, let your heart be touched by all our stories - that's our gift to you, sharing our personal and painful experiences.
And love. Much love.
Believe it, you deserve the best. Don't let anyone take that away fr you.
/off soapbox
Ladies, sorry for my rant, I truly hope I hadn't offended anyone and again, thank you all for the supporting msgs, they meant the world to me.
Good day/night to you all.
Hi Muse~hugs
To everyone going through rough times, my thoughts are with you.
Oneheart, litmom, dottie, fiorels~sorry I missed everyone tonight.
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S T O N E Y @StoneyMarie11 Ohhh. Good thought.
"@Oprah_World: So go ahead. Fall down. The world looks different from the ground." - Oprah
i just spent the past five hrs reading all the comments!
i dunno why but i was kinda scared to see rob's face and what has happened during this itw week of promoting cosmopolis!
thanks to you guys caring words full of wisdom and experiences its so much easier and healthier to deal with it all!
its been 2 weeks now for me since i heard the news anf i now realize whatever i said those first few days were solely a reaction to the shock i felt, i was incapable of thinking things through rationally i was all emotions and yeah its a bit surreal how emotional i let myself get over this...
i have to admit i've found i have so much more time on my hands now that i've promise myself to stay away from gossip sites and some fan blogs, i've religiously stuck to it i only come on here and also on a movie site about box office that focuses on film industry and not personal lives of actors! its like an electric barrier i can't click on those sites ,i won't go near the magazine aisle either!
who knows maybe in a few months...but right now healing and wishing these two all the best in the world, and hope they're reminded to cherish the good in their life always ,true friends and family members and keeping the negativity at arms length.
there have been a few comments that had me grrr but then i wonder why bother ,what positive is that going to bring to convo ! its not because you can comment at a moment's notice that you should always !
anyway feeling so much better these days , i know what its like to be surrounded by negativity me it was more about my weight and people's opinions on how i should live my life and seriously after a while i got tired of being depressed and letting their refrain run around freely in my head...so i literally said f'd that i can't and won't do this anymore, so no they haven't stop really ,they still freely offer their opinion on how i should proceed whether i care to hear it or not what has changed is how i let it affect me or not !i'm tired of feeling like i have to apologize for the way i am and the way i think ,if you think about it its exhausting ! at least i'm not letting them bury me under their "my way is the only right way"
that's why the more i think about it ,the more what you guys say about this situation makes me see reason,the most important thing to me right now is to always strive to be the kind of fan kristen and rob would be proud to have,its a work in progress , baby steps every day!
i think back on all that has happen in my personal life so far this year and in theirs too , its sobering to notice the ebb and flow of life!
ps:deb sorry about your dad now there's something you truly don't have any control over except for how you guys decide to handle it
Thank YOU so much muse.I lost the love of my life 15 years ago now i'm losing my dad the only 2 men who held my hart You know what they say YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE TELL ITS GONE hes been my daddy for 57 years but its time for him to go NO MORE HURTING thats what I want for him NO PAIN :) DEB.
@Muse
Rest well, you are a marvel.
I don't usually post on blogs. I'm a very private person and feel more comfortable just lurking. I've only just recently started to post on this blog and up until now they've all been really quick drive by kind of posts.
After reading all of the supportive messages that many of you have left the past few days and the heartbreaking ones from Perdido, I finally decided to step outside my comfort zone for a moment and post something a little more personal.
Perdido, I know all about self loathing. When I was first diagnosed with Cancer I blamed myself completely. I felt like I deserved it because I didn't take care of my body like I should have and I pushed everyone I loved away determined to take care of my "problem" myself. I didn't want to drag anyone that I loved down with me. I thought that I was protecting them. Thank God the people I love stood their ground and didn't walk away. Even though there is still so much uncertainty about my future, I feel stronger now than I did when I was alone.
I hope those who love Kristen hold their ground and don't leave no matter how much she tries to push them away. She will eventually forgive herself. It just takes time.
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I know nothing with any certainty, but the sight of the stars makes me dream. ~ Vincent van Gogh
DK:Are you still up? :)
@Perdido
It's so easy to know what we should have done in a particular situation after it's already done, isn't it? Do you know why? Because in the meantime we had TIME to think about it, analyse all the options and decide the better way to deal with it. Sometimes we are caught in situations and we make stupid things simply because, in the heat of the moment, we don't have time to process, analyse the options and decide. We just react and the result is unpredictable because we are not in control of our thoughts and our emotions. A reaction is a spontaneous decision. That's why we ALL make mistakes so many times. Because sometimes shit happens in seconds and we don't have time to think before we act. A reaction is a response to something that is happening to us. In the scenario that you described, Kristen REACTED to a situation she didn't expect or predict. She didn't have time to decide what to do, so she just went along with it. Kristen decided poorly because she didn't have time to think before she (re)acted. HE provoked the situation, HE controlled it, HE crossed a line that shouldn't have been crossed.
"The other party is only responsible for himself and the pain he caused in his own life."
NO, you are SO wrong. He took advantage of his position as someone she respected, admired and TRUSTED, he IS responsible - "Then it started and she cared more about not offending him than getting out or stopping him." Tell me, who's the predator here and who's the victim? If you were analysing this situation from the outside, how would you define it? I know what I would call it...
We make mistakes, we regret them, we learn a lesson, we forgive ourselves and we move on. Kristen needs to forgive herself and move on. And if she can't do this by herself, she NEEDS to accept help.
@Annie
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"Stop looking for something out there and begin seeing within. Open your arms if you want an embrace." ~ Rumi
Just got back from hosp. my dad is coming home sat.I'v been reading all this time before Rose left And I have to say SO MUCH LOVE NOW .I laugh at the though of what Rose is going to think when she get's home So meany People come together In time of need and not just for Rob an Kristen. SEE WHAT LOVE CAN DO. I love Rob an Kristen Not because of Edward an Bella. But because of the LOVE they have for each other . Just like the love my husband had for me. Thank You ALL for your prayers. :) DEB.
Waving, waving, waving,
waving the magic wands for all.
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So many shared experiences. Very impressive for all of you that shared what has happened in your lives. I hope someone is reading, she is not alone.
I am also sorry for those of you that are saddened by the illnesses and loss of your loved ones.
Such lovely words of acceptance and guidance. Again, an amazing group of women here in Roseland.
Another week down and is it possible that the healing has begun?
Safe travels home Rose!
Hey DK! Didn't see you there. I have to work very early today, but TGIF. You have a great sleep today.
"All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on their dreams with open eyes, to make them possible."
T. E. Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia)
@Birdie
ICU2! Happy day, champ.
@deb, my thoughts are with you. And to others whose families are physically unwell, sorry to hear that.
@Fio, so you passed by. Just to let you know you're my fav Kristen video maker. And I was in political science major too. Those days in uni were fun.
@Dottie, thanks for the links. Great to know CC will start posting again soon.
Ladies, your personal experiences render me speechless. We women should really learn to protect ourselves better.
Monica from Asia
Morning:
DK: I had fallen asleep earlier and was then wide awake. All's good.
Perdido: I hope Kristen can see she's not alone. We all make mistakes, survive those mistakes and don't let them define us but make us stronger.
Just ask her to stand still, stop over-thinking.........,,,,Don't make that ultimate decision for Rob.......That is not fair. Through that shit right out of her head.
Deciding for him is not being selfless, it's being stubborn.
Let her let him in.
Let Rob love her because she has to know how much he does.
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Working for a few hours this AM and I'm going to be late.........Oh well, it Friday.....,,,.,,Cheers!
Good gosh........I can spell and use the correct word......I meant THROW. :)
Bye.
@Hi all the ladies :)
@Dottie - thanks. please continue to bring to us all the tweetes and supports that out there for our kristen.
And i know that " our kristen " will piss someone but you know FU TO THEM : )
Morning Roseland!
Deb I'm so sorry. Knew I missed someone last night. Take care.
Katy and Holy thankyou.
DK glad your doing good. On my way to be on the road :)
It's a new day make the most of it.(life is to short to do otherwise)
Hugs
Linda
Good morning Roseland...Thanks for all the stories told. We've all had things in our lives or someone we know that has left us feeling broken. We could have set back and let it consume us but we chose not to. We refused to let the person who broke us win.
That's what we do when we break the China. We look for that one perfect piece among many and we stare at it. Too beautiful to throw away and you start looking around and suddenly each piece is more beautiful than the last one. As you pick each piece up and lay it aside to be kept, you suddenly see the mess is gone. It's no longer scattered but laid aside in a beautiful pile of broken pieces.
It's up to us what we do with it. Do we leave them seperate or make something of greater beauty with it. I would choose to create something beautiful from it.
Sure it won't be like it was before. It will be different but it will also have a different meaning. Before the pretty china was always setting on the shelf looking pretty. In our busy life we would look at it occasionally. When we needed to impress someone we'd get it out for family meals.
Now the pretty china has been put back together and it's more beautiful than it ever was whole. We took the time to examine each part and to make sure it fit together perfectly. We noticed the tiny little details that before had went unnoticed. We saw how much it meant to us and what was once something we loved is now something we cherish. We saw how easily it could have been destroyed and now we'll be more careful in handling our precious gifts that we have been blessed with.
Would I take that broken china after I have put it back together and just give it away. No way. It's mine and I know how much it means to me and nothing will ever take it from me nor will I give it away.
Just because something is broken doesn't mean it is worthless. It's up to us to get out the glue of life our blood, sweat and tears and make it beautiful again.
Ask ourselves if we passed someone on the street and saw a person so down on themselves and broken would we look at them and say you're a loser, you don't deserve to get your life put back together. You brought all of this on yourself. You deserve to be alone lying here in your pool of self pity. You don't deserve someone to love you, you're broken, you should have been more careful with your life. I don't think any of us would say that, unless you are a cold hearted person. Well if we wouldn't do that to a stranger, ask ourselves why would we do it to ourselves.
BROKEN
BY: Kristy Starling
"You said I'd have no more than I can handle
But everyday seems to be getting harder to make good
Through You, You said that I could do anything, oh anything
But sometimes, I feel like I can't do it at all
I've been knocked down and dragged around
And now I don't know which way to go
All I need is one small sign to put me to where,
Where You want me
I'm confused so I'm calling on You
'Cause I, I'm broken
And I'm ready for you to pick up the pieces
Won't You direct me, hold me, accept me, and mold me
Put the fragments of my life back together again
'Cause I'm broken
Somewhat embarrassed to admit this
But I wonder if it's the other, or if it's You
Is it trying to tempt me, or is it You
Who strengthens me
I'm weak, so I'm confessing to You
'Cause I, I'm broken
And I'm ready for you to pick up all the pieces
Won't You direct me, hold me, accept me, and mold me
Put the fragments of my life back together again
'Cause I'm broken
My pride has been bruised
I suppose that's good
My will to You, I surrender
Oh, I surrender
'Cause I, I'm broken
And I'm ready for you to pick up all these pieces
Direct me, hold me, accept me, and mold me
Put the fragments of this life back together again
'Cause I'm broken"
Have a great day Roseland as I head off to work..Thinking of all those who are going through hard times right now with loved ones who are very sick and those whose personal lives aren't the way they want their life to be. Big Hugs to all of you, and lots of prayers being offered.
Good Morning, all -
I got up this morning, and caught up as I was drying my hair (multitasking!). My hair may not look so great this morning, but at least I was able to read some beautiful, heartfelt posts. Who cares - I'm proctoring a test all day today, no one is going to see me except one little freshman...
Oneheart, loved your post. It got me thinking...
I go to a few antique/craft shows every year, and some of my very favorite things are the amazing mosaic pieces. People have taken bits of broken china, and put them back together to make absolutely stunning pieces. Dishes that were lovely before, have now become incredible works of art.
Perdido, if you read these posts today, think about this. Someone with an eye for beauty took those broken bits of glass, and cared enough to put them all back together in the most glorious way imaginable. I'll bet that every little piece, every little drop of glue, every soft, gentle touch - was handled with the utmost love and care just to create a now perfect work of art.
Kristen may feel like her life is broken to bits, but imagine the beautiful work of art that it can become once she allows herself to be put back together by those loving hands. I have a sneaking suspicion that Rob just might be the artist with the inspiration and love to recreate that beautiful object.
She deserves to be put back together by the person that loves her the most. Imagine how empty his life might be if he never gets the opportunity to restore that lovely creation. She should never think that she is unworthy. SHE IS. So worthy. She deserves a beautiful, wonderful life with the person that loves her the most - Rob.
Please take to heart the words of these brilliant women who care so, so much about you. If I were you, I might even try to get in touch with Tempest for some one on one chats. She's pretty amazing, and I'm sure she would love to visit with you.
We love you, dear. MANY people love you so much. I hope you can feel the love and let it into your heart and soul.
Have a great day everyone - I probably can't check in for a few hours, since I'll be giving this #$@*&% test...
Hi all
I haven't been posting lately, but have been reading your posts. I did not watch Rob's interviews only MTV. I had a situation come up at work when I was 18 with my boss, and another about 10 years ago with a co-worker. The situation when I was 18 was scary as hell, he offered me a ride home after work and the advances began. I was so dam scared, here was a man the same age as my father and he was hitting on me. I had just graduated high school! I had a boyfriend who is now my husband. I quit my job. But while I worked my two weeks notice I was a shaking, quivering mess. My second incident I was smarter. I went right to the head office and documented everything, and found out it wasn't the first time something like this had happened with this man and he was fired.
I don't know what is going through Kristen's mind, but I want her to know that she isn't alone. Please don't push Rob away, I find it hard to believe this man doesn't love you still, he just has to come to terms with it all. Fight Kristen! Fight for him. Fight for YOURSELF. We've got your back. We support you. We support Rob.
Dear Rose and Roseland,
So much wisdom and love for Rob and Kristen.
Have only been peeking in and unable to read every post ( 1579 +), but know that I have faith in the goodness and kindheartedness of all the Roseland residents.
Rob is a gentleman through and through.
Rob and Kristen are beautiful and good souls.
Rob and Kristen are so blessed to have true blue friends and family.
Hugs for y'all.
I am keeping Rob and Kristen, their family and friends in my thoughts and prayers.
Hugs for Smitty, Gruff and Syd.
Faculty and Staff are officially back today. (Have been working the entire past week in my room.) Our students return on the 27th. Mega busy so will peek in when possible.
Good Morning!
Hugs for all of you my sweeties!
I was reading the posts and I'm amazed how we are brave fans here.
KRISTEN can you hear us??? Can you lots of the girls are sharing what happening to them. I know many of what happened with them is something they have never talked in 'public', and here they are BARING THEIR SOULS AND HEARTS... You may disagree and say your situation is a little difficult, but I think you are NOT listening to them very well. The point is FIGHT, FIGHT and FIGHT.
"Get up, stand up, Stand up for your rights. Get up, stand up, Don't give up the fight."
Have a good morning my friends!!!
@Litmom @Oneheart @Muse @meadowgirl25 @Dottie @Tempest @angelica1 And ALL of you (forgive me for not remembreing your names right now but you all are in my heart)<~ XO
@oneheart Beautifully said: "Just because something is broken doesn't mean it is worthless. It's up to us to get out the glue of life our blood, sweat and tears and make it beautiful again."
@Litmom what a wonderfully expressive analogy. And so very true: "Someone with an eye for beauty took those broken bits of glass, and cared enough to put them all back together in the most glorious way imaginable."
@SweetLilDream wow, in the context you presented, you are correct. And older person took advantage of youthful innocence. He may have caused pain in his own life, but he did some things up to that point, as an adult, that were calculating enough to indicate far more responsibility for his actions than just "his own life and the pain her caused."
1. He planned it out. It is really really obvious. We fans weren't there and within hours after seeing the pictures, the rational fans (us) and many others, figured out what was really going on in those photos. We knew the salacious story being sold was a load of bullshit. And we knew someone had set this up.
2. He had been making overtures at Kristen for a very very long time. I took a few minutes last night to look at some of the SWATH promo videos. Kristen's body language in many of them is indicative of avoidance to him in many of them. I saw the "alright stop" vid as well as several photo call moments where she tried to or did go to another cast member to stand with to get away from him. You could see the discomfort in her body language.
3. He had to have felt her resistance and reluctance even though she somewhat allowed the interaction to have occurred. I am sure, again, she wasn't as willing of a party as what she thinks she was. Our bodies react to our minds in a much clearer way than I think she even realized at the time or even now. He was pushing her into a situation that he knew was WRONG.
Rupert Sanders if a year older than me. I know he knew what he was doing. I can remember what my mind was like at 22 also. And I can with 100% certainty that my thought process at 22 was distinctively different, more naive, innocent, trusting, respectful of my elders, and most certainly scattered. I didn't know what I wanted in life from one moment the next until I was at least 30.
He knew WHAT he was doing to her, I have NO doubt in my mind about that!
@DK I love your quotes, songs, and poems so much. You make my day when I read them. They set my mood for the day. Thanks you!
I will be in and out all day. I am telecommuting today, yay! Today should be and easier day.
Hugs all around. Enjoy your day Roseland!
It's so good to read so many personal stories, so many women have been in similar situations and when a man who has been flattering you makes a move sometimes the fear of what is happening freezes you and you can't deal with it in the appropriate manner. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and it seems like all the women in their different situations have learned how to better cope with any similar scenario. There are so many predatory men (and women I'm sure) about, why they think they have the right to take advantage of young women, it makes me sick!!
I actually got to see Robs mtv interview, it was great and Josh did a really good job :)
GOOD MORNING GLORIES!
Thank you all for sharing your stories. It's important to know that the victims in these less violent situations have some of the same feelings that a rape or abuse victim has.
They feel like they somehow caused it, they feel like they are tainted, they second guess all their decisions and try to isolate themselves from all the good in their life because they feel worthless and feel like everything they touch is messed up. All of that is victimized thinking. It's not based on reality. It is the result of a traumatic experience.
I think sometimes women think that since there was no rape their feelings arent as important but that's not true. When you are young and are taken advantage of by someone you look up to and trust you are most certainly a victim and have all those same feelings.
I pray that if this is what Kristen is experiencing she will believe me when I tell her that she is not alone. So many have been through the same thing and have come out on the other side stronger and whole. It takes time, but while she is healing she needs to realize that her mind is all over the place right now and she isnt thinking clearly because of what she has been through. Because of that she needs to trust the people who know and love her best - now more than ever - to know what is best for her and for themselves because she is too traumatized right now to think clearly.
She just needs to rest and recover and trust that in time she will come out of this dark place and things will look alot different when she does.
Every day that passes is a day farther away from what happened. Days turn to months and then years. Someday, if you let it, this will be just a bad memory.
Take a day at a time, hold on tight to love because it is your salvation, clear your life of any person or thing that doesnt encourage and strengthen you, surround yourself with people who love you and see the best in you,trust those people to know what they can handle and to get out if it's too painful for them, and believe that this too shall pass.
\O/ *WAVING HANDS , WAVING HANDS* \O/
READ READ READ ;)
Universal re-think: Kristen Stewart fan base bigger than all co-stars
Chris Hemsworth can’t carry ‘Snow White’ sequel alone
http://www.filmindustrynetwork.biz/universal-re-think-kristen-stewart-fan-base-bigger-than-all-co-stars/16875
Can't you see KRISTEN??? We have YOUR BACK!!! LOVE YOU!
I think you are much better than SWATH. If you decide to decline it, it's fine. What I'm trying to say is WE HAVE YOUR BACK. Whatever you decide to do, we are here for you!
I wouldn't like Kristen in SWATH again, no, bc if UNIVERSAL considered the possibility of hiring that scumbag again, SO NO, this movie is not for you bbgirl. They preferred him to you. I think they were testing the waters. F.ck Universal, You are our Peyton, our Melinda Sordino,Tracy Tatro, Georgia (I loved her), Martine, JoanFuckingJett, Marylou...You are much better than Univesal and its movies!
XO
Kristen has NEVER lost HER fans, she lost the ones who were in love with her and Rob's relationship, and the ones who pretended to like her bc she was Rob's gf, and the ones who were all saying 'if she makes him happy, i'm happy' (how this is bullshit) So, NO she didn't lost HER fans, her fans are here for here. We have her back.
This is about HER career, her job and NOT who she is dating. We appreciate what she does with so much passion.She is an actress that WE admire. Her personal life is hers, not none of our business, that's why it's called PERSONAL life.I'm just stating FACTS. ;)
Don't you agree?
@oneheart- the song "Broken" is beautiful. I didn't knew this song. The lirics are very powerful, yes we know that is what kristen is feeling now.
Oh God, i pray that what we all believe that is happening now with them is the REAL TRUTH.
That they are talking,that they are fighting for each other, that Rob would forgive her.
I have hope because i don't see anger, hate or revenge in his eyes or behaviour. I see sadness.
when I said it was bullshit about the ones who said they liked her bc she made Rob happy, I was talking about who they were hypocrites, they never liked her.
ANd Yes She made / MAKES / Will make him happy. What can I say? I'm a believer! ;)
Friday, August 17, 2012 9:51:00 AM
Wow! I knew there were more stories out there when I first started this whole 'I've been there' scenario.
I want to clarify one thing, for myself, I never felt like a victim, mainly because nothing really happened, it was just awkward. This isn't meant to negate anyone else who was involved in a more predatory situation and did feel victimized.
The point I was trying to make, is we all have had flirtations and on some level we enjoyed the attention. There is guilt associated with not stopping it before it ever got to the point of more than just talk. In my case, I could have rebuffed those advances by not joking and going along with the innuendo.
That was what I was suggesting to Perdido, that maybe Kristen's guilt comes from initially liking the attention and flirting. Sure, she handled it poorly. When she realized his intent she should have removed herself from the situation. I think if she would admit that the flirting was fun
she could get past all of this. To be that age and have a man, especially an older man interested in us gives us a feeling of power.
We should learn from our mistakes, make amends if necessary and get on with the rest of our life.
Our Giovanni Agnelli is THE MAN! Defending Kristen 100%
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Ladies beware a wolf in sheep's clothing is lurking and posting....
@Dottie- Thanks honey :) No one plays with the krisbians : )
@RKsoulmates913- beautiful said : )
It's ABSOLUTELLY TRUE. She didn't lost HER FANS , she lost the fake "fans" who all this years believed that she lived in Forks. And that she is the re-incarnation of Bella Swan. She is not Bella, she is a real person. And because she is human, she has problems and joys, happiness and sadness, like every single person in the world. It's real Life.
Hi PL! I agree every situation is different. In my case I wasnt a victim, I was a willing participant.
But even so, I still carried alot of those same feelings for a long time.
I totally get the feeling of self loathing and thinking people are better off w/o you. It's not true but in that state of mind it sure feels like it is.
Sydney, I love that song but I'd never really listened to the lyrics properly. It's really appropriate for Kristen. Shake it of girl!! :0)
@onheart Beautiful and So true words. I love what you wrote. I believe this is whats happening to Rob and Kristens fans putting back the BEAUTIFUL pieces.And I believe Kristen WILL STAND again(soon)And with her man right next to her.Have a good day you guys see ya later going to go see my dad at hosp. :) DEB.
or Off, my fingers go to quick for my brain to catch up ;0P
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