Rose's Rant
The Ninnies finally got what they wanted... Right?
Rob has left Kristen... Right?
They are no longer together... Right?
Your dreams have come true... Right?
Your dreams have come true... Right?
So why are you still talking about her?
Why are you still obsessed with her?
Why is it that you are more focused on Kristen
and her career...
Than the man you claim to be a fan of?
Seize your opportunity!
Now you can just do what you have always claimed
you wanted to do!
JUST ROB!
ONLY ROB!
"I just want to be a fan of Rob's without THAT girl"
So why aren't you?
So why aren't you?
I bet you still spend more time trashing Kristen
than you do talking about Rob.
Wonder why.
Well...
1. You have to admit that you were WRONG the past 3+ years
about the whole PR bullshit.
And as gleeful and happy as you are over Rob's broken heart right now
(Unfortunately some of you ARE gleeful even if Rob is hurting...)
It still burns you that Kristen was in a relationship with him
ALL THIS TIME.
She still had what you will never have.
Rob.
And truly...
Even if they don't get back together again...
It's still better to have loved and lost Rob
Than to never have loved him at all.
2. And admit it.
The reason you are watching this so closely?
You are SO scared that he will take her back.
Oh sure...
You are hoping against hope that he won't.
You want to believe that he would never forgive her.
Yet...
You wake up everyday worrying that THIS will be the day.
So keep on hating her.
Keep on judging her.
All you perfect people who have never
made mistakes in your life.
Did you let your mistakes define you?
Or did you get the chance to learn from them?
Did you let your mistakes define you?
Or did you get the chance to learn from them?
Because I know...
that even if you never 'cheated' on someone
You have hurt someone you love.
Somewhere down the line.
Because we ALL do it.
Intentionally or not.
We all do it.
You don't have to like Kristen.
(and quite honestly, its obvious you never really did)
You don't have to like what she did.
(Nobody likes it)
But to continually hate on this young girl
But to continually hate on this young girl
who didn't do anything to you
shows more about you than it does her.
Rob is her boyfriend.
Not yours.
This affects their lives.
Not yours.
She doesn't need your forgiveness.
Save your righteous indignation for your own life.
Rob is her boyfriend.
Not yours.
This affects their lives.
Not yours.
She doesn't need your forgiveness.
Save your righteous indignation for your own life.
She's paying the price in her private life....
With the whole world watching.
That's enough.
This post is brought to you by
Hope of Deliverance.
Thank you Paul McCartney.
You always make me smile.
(And thank you too, for reminding me of the song...
You know who you are)
You always make me smile.
(And thank you too, for reminding me of the song...
You know who you are)
I will always be hoping, hoping.
You will always be holding, holding
My heart in your hand. I will understand.
I will understand someday, one day.
You will understand always,
Always from now until then.
When it will be right, I don't know.
What it will be like, I don't know.
We live in hope of deliverance from the darkness that surrounds us.
Hope of deliverance, hope of deliverance.
Hope of deliverance from the darkness that surrounds us.
And I wouldn't mind knowing, knowing
That you wouldn't mind going, going along with my plan.
When it will be right, I don't know.
What it will be like, I don't know.
We live in hope of deliverance from the darkness that surrounds us.
Hope of deliverance, hope of deliverance.
Hope of deliverance from the darkness that surrounds us.
What it will be like...
I don't know
But I hope they will find their way
back to each other.
I care about both Rob and Kristen.
BOTH of them.
BOTH of them.
I just want them to be OK.
Wherever that leads them.
And this post is brought to you by...
My complete adoration of Thomas Sturridge.
I'm sure he is being a good friend.
To both.
Until next time
Bye for now
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SUPER! Your meatballs were a hit! All 3 men loved it -- a rare thing! Thanks again.
Hello everyone. Hope this has been a good day for all.
Found this on twitter. It's very well thought out IMO and addresses the fact that so many have suddenly started believing the tabs over their own common sense.
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/in85mg
Ali: Are you in the same county?
It's the Midlands isn't it?
Goodnight Ali :)
Goodnight Ali. :)
Hey everyone
Now I feel bad - I just got home from work and was like it is Pizza Hut tonight kiddo's cause work was a sweat shop today.
DOTTIE
I'm delighted to hear that the "boys" liked it !!!
to @Faa...
since i have been pushed,shoved,threatened to come in here and give my point of view across, i think i will stay for a while (you know who you are for sending me in here!)
I am very happy to be around, i normally hide out on twitter, but don't too much away of myself, i run my own blog but it's merely for support and fun.
I think the majority on here believe in second chances and the ability to forgive, the hardest part is actually saying sorry, apologising honestly, people take that for granted these days and it's a very sad thing.
I do believe Kristen's apology came straight from the heart, she is after all bluntly honest with everything in life and that includes herself. Why would she allow this 'much older predator' yes i am putting that out there, predator win?
Why should Rob allow that man to win - really?
Get out there and get that woman and let her know under no circumstance that no one comes between them NO ONE!
@Tempest - after our back and forth - I have to admit you gave me something else to think about that I just couldn't shake. I wonder if we would see her push him away in any of those other photo's- that she apologized from shame for allowing herself to get in that position, for them to have to hash this in pubic, for him to believe her and for him to know that he was the one - the one she needs and the one she can't do without.
@G&S you have a very interesting theory there hun, and as we are all about theories in here, this is why the photos IMO never made sense at all. Oh we can all see them and we got the lovely photogs account of it (rolls eyes) and people ate it up and spat it out, but with the weight of 50 something photos we don't get a heck of a lot, because i believe someone else mentioned in here, there are photos missing, the sequence does not add up.
Of course being the gossip rags, they want to sell you the most salacious, the most intimate, the most telling and the others get discarded, destroyed or at the very least kept just in case. The photog knew he was onto something huge so why not string people along;
'They kissed for hours, making out like horny teenagers in her car'
*not verbatim but you understand*
So, what, you timed them? You actually sat with a watch and timed the make out session, wow you really need to get out more. Then of course there is the 'making out like teenagers' a grown man does not make out like a teenager. If he has a brief window of opportunity, he will want to go somewhere a little bit more private where he won't get a gear stick up his ass, or seats that don't quite fit his frame (think people) he will want somewhere were he can at the very least enjoy his time with her - he's been married for 10 yrs he's not suddenly 18 all over again!
In all this time, the apology is the strongest, honest and blunt point. Kristen admitted for 'her' mistake, for her part in this sad tale of what happened. She freely put her head on the chopping block and is now waiting for the blade to hit home.
@Tempest...
Pleasure to have you around...we have plenty of room here for sane folk!
@Maria thank you, i was beginning to doubt there was anywhere sane anymore, the kids have been let out of the play pen and are running amok all over the place, with their Kristen voodoo dolls and red angry eyes!
@Tempest - I believe you said you were a relationship therapist but boy what I wouldn't give to see you put a couple of these crazy girls on the web that are leading the lynch mobs in a chair and chat with them - I WOULD PAY :)
Also I know someone said they thought that a bunch of the hateful ones are kids - I 'm scared they are grown women that have lost touch with reality that he is going to actually knock on their door and fall in love with them.
IMO, the pics never seemed steamy...she never looked like she was in the throws of some illicit passion. She definitely appeared uncomfortable when he appeared to get too close for comfort.
The pics did their job in casting her in a bad light. And that was their purpose...why would the paps want to show her as a victim of a predator when they don't like her?
She may have been flattered with some of his attention...yes there is that possibility as gross as it may sounds...but she never looked at the creep as she looks at Rob. As for the mini coop action, I think people see what they want to see, despite the logistics of it.
@G&S from my part in this fandom i have seen it all, from young kids who will eventually grow out of their obsessive crush and find a real man of their own, to women of my age and older/younger who really need to find a hobby and get out more or indeed need to grab the man they have ignored for so long and do something a lot more entertaining than sitting behind their computers, pining over a man they will never have.
Yes my job has a vast amount of occupational and behavioural therapy and i see so many of these so called fans who are actually a lot more dangerous than even Rupert Sanders and his predatory ways. They NEED to know what and where Rob is, they NEED to know every single thing about him. NO, what they need is to embrace life and find someone who will at the very least get them off their fixation. They are the hateful ones that i find the most repulsive; they are just so hateful in their jealousy of a girl who just so happened to capture the man of their dreams that they will do anything to ruin her.
I wish Tempest was running for President here in the U.S. this year I would vote for her. If she was American I would write her in...LOL
You are quite right @Maria; there is nothing there than really what the pap wanted you to see and he spun it well with his story of what took place.
Nothing is ever as it seems and the media/gossip love to spin a good story, the more elaborate a story, the bigger the hits they get and the more coverage they get because other media outlets then run with the same story ergo it becomes national news. Great way to bring a girl down!
@Ginger...I believe someone here aptly compared it to the Salem witch trials. Four hundred years may have past, but given the opportunity, people will still band together to condemn someone without knowing all the facts or for even the satisfaction they get from getting the upper hand on someone they hate.
Putting my rosecolored lenses on and anticipating with relish Rob & Kristen turning the tables on the media/paps!
@Maria - the fact she doesn't look him the eye is yikes to me
Hi Dottie..I can't get the link to work that you posted. What am I doing wrong. I copied it and pasted..I would love to read it.
LOL hello you;
nah don't want to be the President, i will just sit here in my comfy chair in my office with the Indian Ocean out there waving at me - far cry from the windy and wet city life that looked at me blearily (not all the time) in Edinburgh ;D
mmm this is true it is a bit like that or really i much prefer Anne Bolyen and being accused of adultery when she actually never did it, but was executed for it anyway.
@oneheart...don't even get me started on politics! I am still waiting for a third candidate to pop out.
Well, it is times like these that reveal your true friends. We know that Rob has a great support crew...but I am hoping that Kristen has something similar. We know that she has her close friends, but will they stand by her with all this hate and disapproval thrown her way?
I pray things clear up before they ever reach such extremes!
Henry the 8th would have been a media favorite. His drama and actions alone would have sold plenty of mags.
@Maria - it makes me sad to even think that - really sad but you can't be a fair weathered friend and I couldn't even imagine what is going on in her head. It makes you want to hug her and protect her. What the media is doing feeding into the hate of some of these sick people makes me worry - I worry about that fan that has lost her marbles and feels it is her burden to avenge Rob. I wish I had a hug hose to spray them down and cool them down.
Hello everyone.
@Tempest,I glad you join us again.
I can't wait to see Rob next week.I don't think he will discuss his personal life.He's an honorable man,he will definitely not sell his personal life.
well that was huge but I guess I want to hug everyone
Tempest I know you have heard me say this many times..so many have wasted the best parts of their own love lives fantasizing and lusting after Rob and they don't realize that they have their own Edward right beside them.
In most cases he's still the man they fell in love with maybe a little older but better, and the love is even deeper than it was in the beginning...that's what love does it continues to grow if it's the real thing until the last breath is taken.
Many will pine their lives away wishing for Rob to find them and fall in love with them and they'll wake up one day and their Edward will be gone whether he gave up trying and left them or whether he passed away a lonely man with a heart full of love that no one cared enough to notice, and all they'll have are sad memories of what could have been while they waited for what will never be.
HELLO ALL!!
Had to work the last 2 days so didn't get to read the comments.
Can I just say WOW!!! ALL of the comments are wonderful, positive, inspiring...
@Tempest -- love your theories and comments, makes me feel better.
@DK -- thanks for keeping it real!!
See you tomorrow!!
@oneheart...I just got choked up with what you wrote. Blinded by a fantasy to see what you are lucky to have.
As for me, I have my own Edward..he is far from perfect, but I wouldn't trade him for anything in the world. We have been together for over twenty-three years, not everything has been rosy but he is my best friend and I couldn't picture life without him.
@Ginger...here's a hug right back at you. You voiced what many of us fear...some crazy becoming unhinged and getting the opportunity to cause Kris harm.
Hosing them down has merit...keep that thought.
Hello all *waves* if there is a sense of confusion then it's in all of us, but logic always rules with reason and seldom does it reach those too delusional for their own good. We are a society that act first think later when it should always be the other way around.
I am mature enough and responsible enough to put my hand on my heart and say 'yes we have all made mistakes' but, it's the defining of those mistakes that make us who we are. That we can accept our faults and move past them that makes us more open to life in general. We can forgive because without it we become too brittle, too cynical and that's not living, that's existing.
I would offer Rob one piece of advice it would be to stop listening to those with the greatest intentions around you and start listening to himself. Open his mind to the possibility that 'Kristen made a mistake, but the mistake doesn't define her, it's what she wants to do about the mistake that does. And she opening chose him, not the one who is in the centre of this atrocity - him Robert Pattinson, the one she has always been in love with, she just lost her way a little.'
To know her is to love her...flaws and all.
I have faith that Rob won't act rashly. He always comes across as thoughtful, logical...he's definitely allowed the breathing space to think things through, but I suspect he won't make a huge decision wirhout all the facts. I can't see him throwing away his love for her without a fight.
Time will tell.
@maria; you don't spend 3+ yrs with someone and then decide to throw it away, unless you never really loved that person in the first place, WHICH i don't believe for one second Rob doesn't love Kristen, that man would kill for her judging by how possessive he is of their love.
I always admire a man who will stand up for what he knows and what he wants and he had made it very clear that it was Kristen he loved and Kristen he chose so for me there is no concern over that.
What he does now, we would all love to know, fact is we are not him. But if he loves her as much as we believe he loves her, then he will fight for her. Swallow the pride that has been hurt, accept she was stupid and hurt him and make her promise to never do it again. If we know Kristen like we hope we know her, i think her statement said it all.
Oh, you ladies truly make my heart sing.
Going to bed now and dream nice RK dreams in Lala Land!!!
My heart bleeds for these kids...I wish I could surround them in a protective bubble and wisk them away to some protective place...away from the cynical world of HW. I know that sounds creepy, but it must be so hard to live and love in an environment where people smile to your face only to stab you in the back. Where your worth is measured on how they can use you for their own benefit.
I sense another trip to IOW is needed.
@Maria - I agree - you want to protect them both - they have enough crap to deal with without the ugly outside. I cringe for what paps will say to them now - I cringe for what the fans will say (both make me gag a little) - it makes you want to scream STFU for them. I want to hope people understand boundaries even though I know they won't, the ones that violate are embarrassing - like he is going to pick them from the crowd.
I just want the hate to stop
@tempest, I really do like reading your insightful posts. My mind has been going in a hundred different directions and tangents since this all hit and I'm really no closer to understanding it than Day 1.
I am intrigued by your references to how a woman will typically put pictures face down and remove significant gifts from their partner out of guilt. Yet, here Kristen was in Rob's hat and wearing his jewelry. That is such a big puzzle piece to me that I can't grasp. Why do that?
Does that signify she loves Rob but isn't in love with him any more? (I don't think so.) Or that this wasn't planned? What does that mean to you?
To all of Robs fan I ddedicate the following:
Youtube: Beatles
When I find myself in times of trouble
,Mother Mary comes to me, speaking words od wisdom,let it be...
Let it be.Let it be. Let it be. Let it be. Whisper words of wisdom, let it be.
...There will be an answer, let it be...
Rob will be alright!
Hello Laurie,
my answer to your puzzle is very simple, it wasn't planned.
When a woman cheats she is guilty right from the beginning but passion overrules that guilt until she is faced with the face of the one she loves. She will remove intimate objects of her person, she will close her eyes to the world she is leaving, the world she gave commitment too - hence she will put the photos of her partner away of face down, it is the guilt or conscience that will eat at her. The love may be lost hence she is chosen to lay with another, but seeing faces, looking at intimate objects solidifies her, grounds her to a time when she is/was happy.
For me, Kristen wearing objects belonging to her 'connection' to Rob; jewellery/hat and anything else she had of his, is not her blatantly showing this off and not giving a damn about how precious they are to her, she never planned for what happened to happen.
@Ginger... I guess when you are delusional the last thing that crosses your mind is being embarrassed by unseemly behavior. If that were the case then we wouldn't be subjected to the trolls and their cohorts.
I don't know about you, but three years ago when their relationship became more apparent that it was developing into something more than a simple friendship, I hoped and prayed that they would have a loving and meaningful relationship. The respect for one another, the love and admiration and on top of that the strong mutual support, made me hope that their love wasn't a typical HW showmance. But in the back of my mind I worried that they wouldn't get the chance to build a strong foundation for their love. I worried that the outside world would interfere and cause irreparable damage. Well, three years past, and they proved many times over, without uttering a word to the media, that they were each others priority. They have built a strong foundation, but is it strong enough to deal with the machinations of the outside world? And that is the underlying question that still leaves a pit in my stomach. Yes, I may be overvested in their relationship, but the mother in me can't turn a blind eye, when in all truth, someday my own children will very likely experience something similar.
Anyway...had to get that off my chest. Did I make y'all dizzy?
@tempest
Makes sense and is a relief because the other possibilities were disturbing.
I am assuming her avoidance of looking RS in the eyes was also because of guilt? It was quite noticeable.
@Tempest...I agree, she did not plan this.
@Marie - nope not dizzy at all. I get it - they also have the benefit a lot of couples don't have they are friends and yes friends hurt each other too sometimes.
Please excuse me for what I am about to say - been a long ass day at work in meetings with way to much to do which make the soulless ginger in me come out.
If you are going to post a song to be witty (which you aren't) at least spell the lyrics right or admit you are either partially illiterate (I can be too - so I am sitting in my glass house) or maybe your parents need to monitor your internet usage
@Maria; when you are in the centre of publicity, you cling onto what you know, what grounds you. In the case of Robert and Kristen - they were put into a media frenzy of both the gossip and the fans trying to get anything on them, they became ferocious with need. That need escalated and R and K clung to each other even tighter. They alone know how much their need for each other in this balances out everything else.
I will put to you in here; had it been the other way around, had it been Rob caught with another woman/actress in the same situation, would the fans of Rob react the same way, or would they have put on their 'Rob rose coloured spectacles' and decide that many Kristen drove him to cheat on her with someone else?
The demographic of that question would surprise you, not me but those who believe that Rob would never do such a thing. Problem being too many put celebrities on such a high pedestal, that when they fall off it, the condemnation is very severe. We are human and as humans we are not perfect and this situation happens in life and it's cruel and it's hurtful but put yourself in the same situation with the eyes of the world on you, and you will find that those who had once respected you, turn on their heel and walk away.
Those that had never liked Kristen but tolerated her because of their infatuation, following of Rob have been the quickest to condemn, the quickest to cast the first stone at her.
I took her lack of eye contact as a sign that her heart wasn't into the attention she was receiving from the perv. Perhaps, aside from the apparent meeting with him, maybe she sensed something just wasn't right. Her body language speaks volumes despite what Sanders was trying to make it look like.
Oh and take your own advice and Let it be
LMAO Ginger. Goes back to an earlier post I mentioned about this. Spelling has always been a sign. LOL
Good night everyone.
High five Ginger.
@Laurie, the whole situation about that day is both awkward and uncomfortable. The avoidance of guilt can go many ways, not looking at the man was not because of what she was about to do, because she would have been able to look into the eyes of her would be pursuer, the guilt or awkwardness in the situation is a girl who doesn't want to be in that situation. Remember she is an actress and as such has the ability to zone out (she has previously stated she goes to a place inside her head) is it plausible that at that moment in time she did just that?
I saw nothing but awkwardness in this situation, i saw a girl conflicted and not because of her emotions for the man she announced she loves and as i stated to people in here before, her announcement is the 'deal' for me here. She didn't have to do that, she could have stuck to her rules of not giving the media anything, but she did - she told the world she loved Rob and that for a woman who supposedly was caught in a situation such as this would have been literally a kick in the balls for Sanders. That he had not won the hand of the fair maiden.
@Maria, her body language says so much!
Maria, that was the vibe I was getting from the eye contact too. I really didn't like the hand touch, neck and ear touches, but can maybe see that she is an actress and perhaps talked herself into playing a role.
And in answer to a question, no, the anger I felt initially would have been just as strong were it stemming from Rob's infidelity rather than Kristen's. It's infidelity no matter who is the party that is a hard limit for me. (Past life experience both in my childhood as well as early marriage - with 2 kids as well).
I can say that my initial anger has subsided and now I am more intrigued by the whole situation than anything, but we will probably never know the real story, nor should we really. It isn't our lives.
One possibility I haven't completely discarded is that Kristen has been under so much pressure for a very long time, what with carrying the Twi franchise and then being the lead in SWATH, and she has had an incredible workload forever - that perhaps she had some sort of mental snap. If that is the case, I really, really hope she gets the care she needs.
@Tempest - see I think that the haters would have still blamed her - she is the villain no matter what the story is. She drove him to it by being ...... I leave it blank because the haters canvas is full of crappy words for her. I think unfortunately - as a society we expect the cheater to be the man therefore we are not as shocked. Women project more than men so therefore the vapid extremes just can't fathom how this happened cause Rob wants a girl that is no less then a dog wagging her tail waiting for attention. He is a well rounded , smart, ambitious, so on and so forth - we look for our equals not for a yes man/woman
Goodnight oneheart
@Maria,you are right,there has to be something about this madness,you just don't trash with your boyfriend/reputation/family/careers.My hubby and our friends keeps on insisting that Rupig definitely threatened Kristen.
Tempest, I agree. If the tables were turned, Kristen would still have been lashed at, with people spouting that he finally woke up and realized he could do better, and even harsher comments that I don't care to get into. To bear such harsh criticism at such a young age is unfathomable. The jealous harpies with their catty comments are expected...but at the level that we have seen/heard these past four years?! I can't say that I recall having come across anything like this before.
@G&S of course the haters will still have hated her, she drove the man to cheat, she couldn't hold onto him and he will still be classed as 'poor Rob'
Yes in society today unfortunately, people will look to the man to cheat and the woman to put up with the cheat - once a cheater always a cheater and thank goodness that is not always true. Yes if you have a serial cheater then unfortunately you are always on your guard with them, they can't and won't settle down. But in this case, this one time indiscretion - i feel uncomfortable using the word cheat, because in my job a person who cheats is a person who has had an intimate relationship with the person they are with. These days everyone unfortunately uses the word cheat for a host of other things.
Thanks, Tempest. I can see what you're saying about her not wanting to be in that situation. Not quite sure why she didn't put a stop to it (or tell Rob what went down afterwards - that she was surprised and uncomfortable), but her apology truly did seem desperate and heartfelt. I really think she is trying to win Rob back.
Sweetdreams oneheart
@ laurieo76
I am not speaking about Kristen
Victims blame themselves, they did something to ask for this, they caused its effect. Victims often hold silent more than anyone - feel free to slap my arm chair response Tempest but this is what you see most often.
@Maria; i have seen so many who have turned so quickly and lashed out and that still disappoints me to this day. I have always been middle road, respected both and enjoyed both their movies. I have never sought one over the other and never will. Maybe it's very simple; i don't hold any infatuation towards Robert other than deep respect for coming from the UK; were he wasn't getting the recognition he deserved as a very talented young man - aside from starring in two Potter movies (second one very briefly)
Maybe all i see is a young man who came to the US with very little to show and auditioned for a movie that starred this girl he fancied?
For me, both are very talented, very awkward about their fame and their common ground is that they love each other. Kristen has always worried that the fans, the media, too much good luck would rip them apart. That's why she has always been guarded in revealing too much in case it got taken away from her. As for her mental stability - of course she has been under enormous pressure, pressure to please too many people all at the one time. So much has been pushed onto her and she has blindly accepted. It is not only a fault to her superiors who should have said 'stop' but also Kristen being too hard on herself. If she did 'snap' as it is being questioned there in is an easier explanation for her conduct. But unless you can actively go back to her life, weeks, months before this happened, then you won't find your answer and all you are doing is speculating like the media and everyone else right now.
I have a theory as to why she didn't mention things to Rob.
Perhaps she wanted to handle things on her own...to resolve the issue of this unwanted attention. Kristen, as we have seen, can be quite fierce in her views (and we love her for it) and I wouldn't put it past her to try to resolve things without getting Rob, her family, or others involved. Perhaps to prove to herself that she's an adult and can handle problems on her own?
answering both @Laurie and @G&S
no one knows what happened in Kristen's situation but i will give you an for instance;
A girl has a good working relationship with her boss, he is very charming and very unassuming. He is married and he seems on the surface very happy. You are in a relationship yourself and you are also very happy.
You are very busy and your boss keeps piling the work on and you smile sweetly and get on with it, he is after all your boss. He has a very reassuring way with him, always complementing you in your work and how much you are doing and how much he couldn't do his own job without you. You feel so elated, your boss is hitting all the right buttons with you and you are happy 'he appreciates me'
He starts calling you after work, putting across some theories that may help your work and your job for him. You don't see this as a problem but your partner does, he is in the same line of work and his boss doesn't ring him at all hours of the night. You get into fights over this, you explain that your boss is very particular about the way you conduct your work. This doesn't bode well with your partner, they think your dedication to your work is being taken advantage of. You don't see this, you think you are just being the best employee that there is. Your boss notices your conflicted emotion and he asks you about it. So unwittingly you pour your heart out to him and he smiles and is sympathetic and tells you, you have nothing to feel guilty of and that you are very needed and that your partner is just going to have to accept it.
He has your number and you begin chatting. it starts off friendly enough and you relish those chats, he understands you and he understands your situation. Then one day he calls you and asks you out after work for a drink. You think nothing off it, he's harmless he is married, he is your boss...
What happens after that you can all fill the blanks in. Point i was trying to make is very simple;
Kristen has always been about pleasing people and putting 100% into her work. If anything Rupert Sanders abused that, but in what way? Cam we say the scenario above does happen more times than enough.
SO, you get this girl who has just done something stupid; in a moment of weakness she allows her scattered emotions and weeks/months of confusion get the better of her and her boss kisses her, not only does he kiss her but he makes it very known how much he is attracted to her. At first she is shocked, almost repulsed - this is your boss but your boss has been able to get under your skin all this time and he seems he is genuine in his feelings for you. he tells you he is having problems at home, his wife and he are always fighting and haven't been with each other intimately and so on...
You feel sorry for him, empathy even, but that doesn't help the fact that you allowed him to kiss you and you unwittingly kissed him back. you go home after possibly letting him know that you are not that kind of person, that you love your partner. You go home guilty and confused. Do you tell your partner and risk an argument of massive proportions, something really in your confused and fragile state you don't want.
@Maria - I have been the cheater before - I wanted it to go away - almost like if I never talked about it didn't happen. Shame and guilt are wicked
@Tempest...and that is what it boils down to...we haven't lived their lives, therefore we have no right to pass judgement. It is so easy to speculate in search for answers. I suspect that if we didn't care as much, we wouldn't be trying to analyze it from different angles.
I wish them strength and comfort. I am looking forward when we can go back to just expressing our pride over their accomplishments. Hopefully that will be sooner rather than later.
Or do you bottle it up. Argue with yourself that you had been a stupid fool allowing it to happen. It was your fault, you lead him on, you allowed his advances to get to you, that you were the one who was stupid enough to go for a drink with your boss on your own.
Your partner notices the change and asks you what's wrong, but you are so consumed with guilt you can't tell him. It's eating you alive. You have no one to share this with, no one who wouldn't go running to your partner and tell him, all your friends are his friends, your friends you have are always too busy.
So you call the only people who might understand - your parents. What do they tell you to do - go and speak to your partner, and despite the argument you know you are going to have, despite the pain you are going to cause them, despite the pain you have been causing yourself - you do that. Putting all the blame squarely on your shoulders.
That is my for instance for women who suffer in silence, because to admit to it straight away is like sticking a knife in your gut - the fear of what happened and your part in it and the fear of your partners reactions to it. Considering if your partner was to confront your boss, your boss will let him know you lured him on, you advanced him, you chased him.
@Ginger...I can relate...I had my own minor indiscretion about twenty years ago. I was forgiven. We are our own harshest critics. We can hide our sins from others but never from ourselves. And its something that we will beat up ourselves over, despite having been forgiven.
But you know what Ginger? I still see that halo of yours despite you using it as a hula hoop. ;-)
question to some of you. are you going to think less of rob if he doesn't take kristen back? i've seen many robsten fans acting like he will take her back, or give reasons why he should. what if he doesn't? are many robsten fans going to turn on him if he doesn't want to be in a relationship with her anymore. that is a lot to ask of someone that doesn't know us. especially someone who has been publicly humiliated the way he has.
Tempest...I can see Kristen in such a situation. Faced with such a situation, how would we have handled it? I think many of us would have made similar decisions.
@Maria - I look at it like this - I have lived life - life hasn't lived me and I have learned from my mistakes - I wouldn't be the human being I am now without those mistakes. I don't slap people that have a hand out - I ask how I can help. It doesn't make me a better person than someone else but it sure in the hell helps me sleep better at night. I am cool with the halo hula hoop - it adds flare
Exactly @Maria, no one knows how they can handle or would handle a situation like that.
@Lula - For me I support them both and whatever they decide - it is their life not mine. I hope they fix it but I don't have to be them. Here is my question to you - if he takes her back would you turn on him?
@lula...a true fan of rob, kristen or both, would respect their decisions no matter the outcome. Again, it comes down to that they are the ones that know what actually happened. They are the ones that this directly effects. They know how much they love one another, and whether this scandal will make or break their relationship.
For me, i will support both no matter what. I will be disappointed that they chose to not try and find out what went wrong and fix it - too many chose the easy over the hard these days.
But regardless, i would hope that they would both find peace and resolve to be happy in their lives, in their choices in life
T.
@Ginger...I agree with you. We are meant to make mistakes and learn from them. Its what makes our lives richer, for we learn to apppreciate things instead of taking things for granted.
And remember that you do still have your halo. Nobody's perfect, but we can only strive to be the best that we can be everyday.
Ladies...its after midnight here at my end. Got to say goodnight.
Tempest...it was a pleasure to read your take on things. God bless your reasonableness.
Ginger...huge hugs to ya!
And to everyone else a most pleasant goodnight. Keep your rose-tinted glasses on.
Night Maria - sweet dreams
night @Maria have care free dreams xx
Say Anything…
Diane Court: Nobody thinks it will work, do they?
Lloyd Dobler: No. You just described every great success story.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFRdhRVMTEs
Thanks Rose, it's so sad to see all the hate out there. My heart goes out to both of them. I love them both so much. :)
@Second Chance
Thanks for that video and song. Very meaningful. Of course, I love me some John Cusack, our own Chicagoland boy, too!
@Tempest
Glad you came (thanks from me, to you know who) and are sharing your expertise and kindness here.
@Maria
Thumbs up.
Speaking Of Chicago
Beginnings
Chicago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI5aD6m7ub0
When I'm with you
It doesn't matter where we are
Or what we're doing
I'm with you
That's all that matters
Time passes much too quickly
When we're together laughing
I wish I could sing it to you
Oh no
I wish I could sing it
To you
Mostly I'm silent
Never think about
Words to say
When I kiss you
I feel
A thousand different feelings
I'm covered with chills
All over my body
And while I feel them
I quickly try to decide
Which oneI should try
To put into words
Oh no
Try to put into words
Mostly I'm silent
Only the beginning
Of what I want to feel forever
Only the beginning
Only just the start
I've got to get you
Into my life
Got to get you next to me
Only the beginning
Only just the start
Thank you/ersafeguard
Did you know that white wine can have a mineral elements benefit? Surely healthy.
Still hung up on Frenchie presses but they have wised up and are again, commanding the premium prices.
Most good things are judged for their true value and if they are worth paying the price, eh?
I miss you, Freddie.
Got To Be There
Michael Jackson (young):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcbTd8wdu2k
Have I said how much I am excited to see Cosmopolis? How Rob's performance is going to chill me to the bone, what with the guns and swaggering, and deadpan earnestness of his acting, blowing my mind? I just did.
Balancing my fanwomaning, I like the OTR new trailer so much, and will see that gem, whenever TPTB see fit to air it in my area. (December?)
Others Can But They Will Decide
I Can't Tell You Why
The Eagles:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6yyWKzPBCM
Look at us baby, up all night
Tearing our love apart
Aren't we the same two people
Who lived through years
In the dark
Ahh...
Every time I try to walk away
Something makes me turn around
And stay
And I can't tell you why
When we get crazy
Try to keep your head
Little girl
Girl, I get lonely, too
You don't have to worry
Just hold on tight
Don't get caught in
'Cause I love you
Nothing's wrong as far
As I can see
We make it harder than
It has to be
And I can't tell you why
No, baby, I can't tell you why
I can't tell you why
No, no, baby
Thank you/cyberman000051
It's so late, and not many have to scroll on their phones, to the comments, so I revert to my posting lyrics with the links to songs, for they go TOGETHER. Mea culpa, Don Giovanni.
Gerswhin Insists
(Perfection Can Do That)
Summertime
Ella Fitzgerald & Louis Armstrong:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIDOEsQL7lA
Summertime and the livin' is easy
Fish are jumpin'
And the cotton is high
Oh, your daddy's rich
And your ma is good-lookin'
So hush, little baby
Don't you cry
One of these mornings
You're gonna rise up singing
And you'll spread your wings
And you'll take to the sky
But till that morning
There ain't nothin' can harm you
With daddy and mammy standin' by
Thank you/Praguedive
Oh, if I needed to spell Gershwin correctly, I doubt I could (didn't).
Even Ludwig van BEETHOVEN eludes me. Still moves me, and I say, I don't know the new stuff (music) so much, and leave it to GWS, bubblejoi, and others.
I will remind you of past good music. OK?
Think, Joni Mitchell! Gah.
Gladly Die For This Great Stuff
(Praise Them All)
I Shall Be Released (1969):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aYAUE6is7I
Joni Mitchell/Cass Elliot/Mary Travers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aYAUE6is7I
Thank you/ppmcsk
LISTEN!
Good Morning Everyone!
Tempest - I think your scenario is highly plausible,I've handled such a case from a HR perspective. The female in question felt stupid for allowing herself to get into the situation and so spoke up much later than she probably should. She was terrified her husband would think she'd initiated it in some way and so didn't tell him until the matter became legal and he was then predictably furious. Over time though, he was able to understand the situation from her perspective and they got past it.
Ali Mac - I think we've achieved lukewarm!
Loving You Is Easy Like That!
Loving You
Minnie Ripperton:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhTgyZyQRIE
Lovin' you is easy
Cause you're beautiful
Makin' love with you
Is all I wanna do
Lovin' you is more
Tthan just a dream come true
And everything that I do
Is out of lovin' you
La la la la la la la
Do do do do do
No one else can make me feel
The colors that you bring
Stay with me while we grow old
And we will live each day
In springtime
Cause lovin' you has made
My life so beautiful
And every day my life is filled
With lovin' you
Lovin' you I see your soul
Come shinin' through
And every time that we oooooh
I'm more in love with you
La la la la la la la
Do do do do do
Thank you/fieldy227
@angelica1
Knew you would know a difference, a saving grace. Shoot me a pic of the tattoo, for I'm seeking a source of my own. How else to honor love, than on our very selves?
Wow, you guys, I've spent an hour trying to catch the comments from my last visit, still didn't get through them all. Lots of great conversation.
That's why I love coming here, Roselanders are mature, smart people!
Soooo many comments I wanted to respond to, but its too late and I've forgotten who said what!
Hubs and I celebrated our 11th anniversary Sat, I do think all this drama has helped me be more positive and overlook that day to day frustration.
@Ginger w/a Soul - loved that South Park episode, too funny! And I loved the men's guide to women, cracked me up!
@Robert - you made me laugh out loud with the BBQ fire story
@Tempest - I love the sane, rational conversation. I much prefer to discuss how people work and try to understand rather than condemn. It all rings true and makes a ton of sense.
I'm not sure I get why some are upset by the partying in Ojai story, I kind of hope he did go out and have some fun. Am I missing a piece to that rumor?
@Super - I copied your meatball recipe, sounds like a good one to try for the upcoming football tailgates!
I'm already too long-winded, have a great night all! Can't wait for football season, Fight On, Trojans! ;)
ANNIE Sorry I was away before you asked me that last question. I live just over the border in Northern Ireland, so it's the same Island but N.I is part of the UK. I went to Mullingar which is in Westmeath a couple of months ago for a weekend break.
Anyone watch, "Salmon Fishing in the Yemen" with Ewan M? Heard it was a good movie/romance.
Am longing for some real Irish food as described earlier. The early family came from there but don't know where. The love of potatoes transcends the generations. I am witness.
@wig
No, why should Rob not be with real human people or friends, ever?
Walls may have ears but they could care less about we the living.
That's great ANGELICA! Will it be a surprise for Mr A when he next comes home or does he already know about it?
Can't Think At All
Don't Think Twice It's Alright
Jerry Reed & Others:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJJzGYIR2RI
Thank you/EdwinSchenk
A recipe for Champ
Ingredients
1.35kg/3lb potatoes, well scrubbed and left whole in their jackets
290ml/½ pint milk
85g/3oz butter
salt and white pepper
1 large bunch spring onions, finely chopped
Preparation method
Boil the potatoes in salted water until soft. Drain and remove from the pan. Leave until just cool enough to peel. Mash thoroughly.
Boil the milk and add to the potato, together with the spring onions.
Season and stir well.
Pile into a serving dish.
Make a well in the centre and add the butter. Serve immediately.
DK this is another great comfort food of mine.
DK - I'll send a pic as soon as I can :)
Ali Mac - He knows now, his best friend is married to mine and they have loose lips.LOL
ANGELICA It's hard to keep anything a secret even with all the miles between you lol
Get Back To Where You Once Belonged
You Belong To Me
Jo Stafford (1952):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=berL-80EPmg
See the pyramids along the Nile
Watch the sun rise
On a tropic isle
But just remember
Darling
All the while
You belong to me
See the marketplace in old Algiers
Send me photographs and souvenirs
Just remember
When a dream appears
You belong to me
I'll be so alone without you
Maybe you'll be lonesome too
And blue
Fly the ocean in a silver plane
See the jungle
When it's wet with rain
Just remember till
You're home again
You belong to me
Thank you/macbrid
Hi everybody. So nice Rose give us room to speak our feeling.
@Tempest...you're a very wise person. Sorry, English is not my first language. (I'm from Asia, same as Monica).I'm trying to find your blog. (doidazzle-you.blogspot.com) Is it your blog?
I know the Breaking Dawn promo will be in 3/4 months but I feel very protective to Kristen. She's kind of my imaginary sister. Hope the Twihards won't boo at her. Please God...help her....
@Maria @tempest @Ginger,
After the initial shock (why?why?) of what happened, I had to, for my own sanity, find out how she could end up in a situation like this. Even though it is hypothetical as I'm not Kristen or can even imagine living her (scrutinised) life, I wanted to understand. The 'how' you mentioned, @Temp 10:48, is what I figured (in a lot less intelligent way) could have happened. I was more thinking in the lines of, he played her and made him to become her confidant?
Realizing you are a relation therapist and not some Twihard in denial loon, has giving me a feel of..I don't know..that I at least have some insight in how life works, that nothing is black or white.
I had my own 'indiscretion' a very long time ago, after it was over I never told him, knowing what it would do to him, it was a bit of excitement at the time I was selfish, wasn't thinking too straight, now I can't imagine it ever doing again.
All the name calling? No way would it be the same if it had have been Rob. A woman is a whore, a man ah well it must be her fault, he strayed. C'mon we see it all the time. When a woman has mltple partners she is a slut, a man is cool, his libido must be something else.
The hate? Hate is so easy and like some of you, internet is a very dangerous media. My son was bullied on Hyves, people who never met him hated him, saying horrible stuff, it's so easy to jump on the bandweagon.
Of course the obvious reasons why they hate kristen we know but in society, people in general don't like independant, speaking up, strong intelligent and even worse beautiful women. They are clssified as being a bitch. That's what I never understood about these hatefull girls, they should be proud of smart independant women.
Maybe I'm just too old plus I never had this blind obsession for stars, confusing fact from fiction.
Thank you for all of your good insights.
@sue
Thank you for your good insight. Better to see within than to be without sight. Making it then, when realized wrong, to be right.
Lovelies, I take flight now, so I can fight for right, later, when I might. As you all do.
Good Morning Roseland....Have a super happy Tuesday..
SIGN YOUR NAME ACROSS MY HEART
BY: Terence Trent D'arby
Fortunately you have
Someone who relies on you
We started out as friends
But the thought of you just caves me in
The symptoms are so deep
It is much too late to turn away
We started out as friends
Sign your name
Across my heart
I want you to be my baby
Sign your name
Across my heart
I want you to be my lady
Time I'm sure will bring
Disappointments in so many things
It seems to be the way
When you�re gambling cards on love you play
I'd rather be in Hell with you baby
Than in cool Heaven
It seems to be the way
Sign your name
Across my heart
I want you to be my baby
Sign your name
Across my heart
I want you to be my lady
Birds never look into the sun
Before the day is gone
But oh the light shines brighter
On a peaceful day
Stranger blue leave us alone
We don't want to deal with you
We'll shed our stains showering
In the room that makes the rain
All alone with you
Makes the butterflies in me arise
Slowly we make love
And the Earth rotates
To our dictates
Slowly we make love
Sign your name
Across my heart
I want you to be my baby
Sign your name
Across my heart
I want you to be my lady
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9r_-wWbS-4
Good morning!
Missed out on a good discussion last night but it was a good read this morning! Tempest I am glad you are here with your insight. It helps put things into perspective. I've been the in the same position as some of you and Kristen and for the me the guilt and feeling like a failure were my biggest emotions to overcome. It just takes time.
I keep asking myself the same question of what if Rob doesn't want her back? It stabs my gut but it's not my choice and I will be happy if they are both happy. That also will take time.
Dreamerkind - "you belong to me" is one of my favorite songs! Ty
I'm so thankful to Rose and the people here for this place.
Good day to all!
Good morning every one!
@Angelica how's the back luv? Have a good day!
@Tempest you insights are amazing. Thank you for sharing and puting on your 'clinical thinking hat'. :-)
G&S, DK, Maria, and anyone else I missed from the convo last night, all your insights in the conversation give us all something to think about.
Have a great day everybody. :-)
Morning,
Wow so many comments since I last posted. It's been interesting to read everyone's thoughts. What I like about most around here is that no one thinks this thing is cut and dry. I've seen some other things fans have said/showed that make me stop and look/think. I know none of it is my business and it doesn't affect my life overall, it just bugs me that the media is over spinning it (and the other person involved is not getting raked through the coals!!!) and people are believing every little thing.
Super/Ali- Thanks for the recipes. Both sound and look easy and tasty!
Hope everyone had a great weekend and a great start to the week! Cheers.
Checking in from the Cape.
@Kenzz~I see I owe you a Happy Birthday...sorry I missed it.
Shouting out to PL and all the regs......hope everyone is well!
Gotta laugh about Rob's upcoming "tell all interview". Are people crazy? We know Rob keeps what is his, his. He will be professional and stick to Cosmopolis.
@Dottie, I read that article too. That piece is spot on!!
@Tempest, It's our honor to have you here. Really, your comments are so inspiring. I also see how sincere Kristen's statement is coz she needs not do that. That's why I'm even more heartbroken. Hope their love is strong enough to survive this, but male pride...I just don't know...:(
Whenever I think of the possibility that they cannot make through this, I'm sad and depressed all over again. I have lost 5 pounds since the incident happened. Carzy me.
Monica from Asia
GOOD MORNING ROSELAND!!!
It's Liz in Lala Land ....
Taking a "work break" and on my home page some of the gossip stuff is splattered across, as in "Kristen Hasn't Showered In Days" ... good grief.
Regarding Rob's GMA LIVE interview next week.. Here are a few comments:
THINGS THAT ROB WILL PROBABLY TALK ABOUT:
1. Cosmopolis
2. Cosmopolis
3. Cosmopolis
THINGS THAT THOSE OF US IN LALA LAND WOULD LIKE ROB TO SAY:
1. A mention to his fans to "lay off of Kristen, she's a human and humans make mistakes"
2. Also, to my fans, KRISTEN, I LOVE YOU!!!
Hey, people, it doesn't hurt for an old lady to dream. We all know that would never happen. Personally, I CAN picture them making a "coming out" red carpet appearance at BD2 and him showing just as much PDA as last year's premiere. I can feel myself tearing up just like last year.
Have a great day, all!!
Liz in Lala Land
Just peeking in to wish everyone a happy Tuesday.
Keep smiling! xoxo
@Liz - I like LaLa land - in fact I am sitting at work in it trying to avoid the mountain of work in front of me.
I don't think you are crazy - even if they can't get past this I wish someone would say to back off of her - it is scary out of hand - the mobs are igniting more and more - with the silence they feel justified. I am almost scared someone needs to break the silence for her personal safety. The media in their quest to get money and trying to act like a 14 yr old fan girl - Shaun - have to know that they are creating a ticking time bomb - it has always been discussed that the lunatic part of this fandom has never been known to be stable, they don't need an extra push into a psychotic break .
Sorry had bad dreams about this and now my bestest friend who works with me was like are you ok - you look like crap and haven't slept at all - isn't she the sweetest - lol
Good morning all,
It’s been exactly 2 weeks since the bottom fell out of Robsten and speculation is still rampant. I’ve come here and shared in the theories and speculation like everyone else so I’m not trying to accuse. My wrist was slapped for doing so, 2 weeks ago yet talk still is here. And the twitlongers, have you ever seen so many? Kristen’s fans love the one’s that say rob needs to swallow his pride and go get his love, and the common theme is, “Have you never made a mistake?” Rob only fans love the ones that say he needs to concentrate on his career and think of himself to get over this hurt. And everyone who writes is so “wise”.
I just wonder if maybe the time has come for us to stop it on this public blog. While it’s doubtful a casual observer would wade through 700+ comments, what is said here is still public. Maybe all this talk by experts and the bereaved is making things worse because it’s keeping the story alive and it won’t die until we stop discussing it publicly. Unless Rob and Kristen want to stop by here and talk with us, I wonder if it’s time to let it go as far as discussing motives, and whys and do it privately if we just can’t let go of it.
I’m not someone who comments here or anywhere on a regular basis, but for me the only thing we know for sure and can actually voice an opinion on is, Rob has a movie opening next week. We can promote that and talk about it. Kristen is starting a movie next month, we can look forward to that. It’s just a suggestion and if the majority of you still want to discuss then I guess nothing will change I’m just asking that you think about it maybe. And please know I mean no offense, just calling it to your attention.
@luckystrike87, while I agree your point, I also think it isn't just Rob and Kristen are hurting. We fans are hurting too. And talking to each other is a healing process we need. Sometimes, we may just overshadowed by our hurtful feelings, which lead us to some impetuous judgments and decisions, i.e. closing up fansites and calling Kristen's names while we don't know what actually happened. I genuinely appreciate the exchanges here and I think I have learnt a lot in the past two weeks hearing other people's views, stories and experiences.
Monica from Asia
@Monica from Asia
I couldn't have said it better. I was thinking of a response to @luckystrike87 but couldn't come up with the words.
BUT, know this, I'd be a babbling idiot by now if not for this blog. As you said, we fans have been hurting about this, whether it's healthy or not, is beside the point. I knew I was too invested in their relationship for my own good and when I couldn't sleep for a week, it took a toll.
I think as long as we are respectful here (and the majority are) that we are okay to be here. Frankly, if some "gossip rag reporter" wants to search out what I'm writing, they're going to be sorely disappointed.
Liz in NC (otherwise known as Lala Land)
I would love to more than anything to talk about Cosmopolis and OTR. But this blog has always been a little bit more than just updates on their coming projects. We as fans are trying to come to grips with what happened two wks ago. So just as in happier times we turned here to be entertained and share our enthusiasm, so we do now turn to Rose and each other for comfort. Yes, it does appear that we are beating a dead horse with all the theories, but its part of a grieving process.
@Maria -- Very well said.
Yes, the poor horse has been beaten quite a bit!! *tries for a little humor*
Yes, we've been grieving.
QUESTION: Do you all think that after we see Rob live next week we're going to feel better? That's assuming that everything else stays the same, Kristen in hiding, him in hiding, etc. without us knowing if they're together or separate or whatever.
@Liz, I love your version of La La Land. I'd jump, dance, twist and shout. About the old lady stuff, I'm no spring chicken either but I honestly don't give a fck. I talk, dress and act the way I want and not the way society tells me too. Ok, I might have a itsy bitsy of a problem how conservative the world is becoming, there are a lot of double standards out there and I don't like it. I'm glad I live in the Netherlands, although it's changing as well, it used to be a lot more liberal.
@Sue -- You're talking to a "bleeding heart liberal" ... an artist, a traveler and if I had more money, would be a free spirit, LOL
Double standard -- do we even want to go there? How differently would this have all been handled if HE had made the mistake? I think a LOT differently.
Just popping in for a bit...
While I agree @luckystrike that the fans have over-indulged in following their relaysh, and that we are STILL talking about what happened ad nauseum. At the same time, it does offer us a place to just share and vent. Commiserate if you will...
At the end of the day, we adore them and some of us wish for ourselves what they so uniquely have with each other. Their love, bond, and connection goes way beyond what most people seem to have.
I have complete confidence that they will (or have) worked out the issues surrounding the "indescretion" situation, issues, and any others that existed prior to it's occurrance. I don't believe that R/K can picture their lives without each other.
Does that make me a sappy, hopeful, and "la la land" kind of fan. YES! And I am proud of it.
I think they will surprise the hell out of the entire public population at large. I will probably be wrong, but I think Kristen will go to the Cosmopolis RC event in NYC on the 13th. She will probably leave quickly like she did for WFE, but I think she will be there.
That in of itself is a HUGE statement that they have soldarity, they support each other, and that they are in it for the long haul. No statements are needed to the public or the press. Sometimes actions speak louder than words.
Let's see if I will eat crow on the 13th, eh?
Have a great rest of your day everybody! :-)
@irisheyesmasen -- WOW, I hope you don't have to eat crow... that really is a very bold statement.
As much as I'd love for that to happen, I'm thinking that realistically, her security team might not allow that. I'm just thinking that perhaps they should "ease" themselves back together in the public eye. You know, let the paps photo them on a date in LA something like that a couple of times. I'm really worried about some of the crazy fanatics who might want to hurt her.
Yea, I'm proud to be living in Lala Land, also!!
On my lunch break...
count me in as a fellow romantic but I do believe that Rob will forgive her. Neither owes us an explanation, but when you go with your gut feeling that the love he has for her can't simply be turned off, then its quite easy to have faith that they will work things out. We have always been proud of how he handles himself...I have no doubt that we will be proud of him again.
As for our anticipation of the GMA interview...I think that we are all looking for a visible confirmation that he's emotionally alright.
And I am hoping to see Kristen at the premier...it will be a confirmation that he has forgiven her.
@Liz, thanks~~ It isn't just you. I lost 5 pounds due to difficulty of sleeping and eating. Got sick and still taking medicines. But I truly think we could find something +ve from this. I believe R&K's relationship will be stronger if they can survive this. Even if they couldn't, they would become maturer persons. And we fans will be closer and more loyal to R&K coz we support and comfort each other in this difficult time. My only concern is if this will jeopardize Kristen's career in a long run.
Monica from Asia
I need to get irisheyesmasen a shipper shirt with us !!!
I enjoyed Tempests talks at night as well as the chit chat we all do.
Liz - I am going to twirl in LaLa land and maybe all this damn work with go away lol
Hiya guys by the way - I had to hit and run earlier - nothing like a 9 am meeting to start the day.
Liz...make room in Lala land...you are about to get an influx of visitors.
Its much nicer to stick to positive thoughts. its easier on the digestive system.
LUCKY I too am done talking about a subject we have no control over, but we all get over things in different ways and if these girls need to keep talking about it we have to respect that. They are all being respectful so maybe do what I do and just don't read the bits you don't need to see.
I don't think any journalist would really look through 700+ comments looking for a new story I think they can make it up on their own!!
So I kind of hid the rag mags at Target today. So sue me!
I still have my rose colored glasses on too dam it!
Now I have a question, and maybe someone answered this and I missed it. On of our fellow fans was trying to debunk this as the rest of us are, and mentioned differences in K's car in the photo's. The mirrors were different, chrome, etc. We agree the pics are sketchy so any thoughts on the car? I haven't see the photos myself.
And I am looking forward to seeing Rob next week, to look at his face will let us know how he and Kristen are handling this horror show.
Oh! and hiding those mags may have been childish but it made me feel good to think that maybe they missed some sales off Rob and Kristen's heartache. So I am not sorry
@Rose. Thanks again so much for giving us a venue to vent all the emotions that have come with this debacle. Your intelligence, reason and wit are always a joy.
@Tempest. Much appreciation for your calmness and wisdom. Of the millions of comments and the hysteria I've seen (and felt and participated in) on this subject, yours are the truest and most comforting words I've read. I only wish Rob could talk with you or read what you've written here. It might make a difference. I know it has to me.
@ JMF...you are too funny. I would have done the same.
Happy thoughts...happy thoughts...
DON'T SHOOT!!!
Been thinking (dangerous, I know) and here's why I DON'T think Kristen will be at the Cosmo premiere.
1. I think it's too soon for them to act like all is forgiven and well. If this wasn't a stunt (and most of us don't believe that) then there is hurt involved on both parts and I think they need to take things slowly. It'll make them stronger, I believe.
2. I still think security is a HUGE deal this soon.
3. FINALLY, I don't believe Rob would have her there (even if in the background) because it would take all and any spotlight away from the movie. And, I don't believe he would want that to happen. It would create a circus atmosphere and this is a serious film that he was serious about and proud of.
I'm still LIZ IN LALA LAND!!!
Liz...you're absolutely correct...but I was giving in to my inner optimist - got carried away with her inner flights of fancy.
Okay...back to reality.
Does it make me a bad person to envision Mr Sanders tarred and feathered and dragged down Rodeo Drive?
Somebody has got to have enough clout in HW to get the leacher blackballed.
Again, I am fantasizing...
RIP
The Inspiring Music Of Marvin Hamlisch (7 mins.):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DDrIWD2yKc
Thank you/hamlischm
Avril Lavigne - When You're Gone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=0G3_kG5FFfQ
Lyrics
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/avrillavigne/whenyouregone.html
One of the most beautiful Rob/Kris Video's - love the song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JraAQjOnCwQ&feature=youtu.be
Hello, everyone!
Every day that passes moves us further on, in which direction, maybe the winds know. The constant I see is feeling for both R & K, however shown.
*******************************
Equally Dear To Us
We Shall Not Be Moved
Pete Seeger:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt7soE8gVf8
Thank you/sdrcomputer
@maria - please take this idea out of your head- SHE WILL NOT BE ON COSMOPOLIS PREMIERE. That would be suicide. Trust me you don't need to feel more disappointment. This is like the false stories from the stupid hollywoodlife and others haters. We don't need to go there and read, that will make you to feel more sad.We have to protect ourselves. We are here for them , waiting for answers.
I agree with you . next week will be very important for the perception of the fans about this all situation. We know that he is sad but i think that if he was really phisically bad he would not come in public soo soon.Not him or his team wanted that. he needs to look that he is ok.
So this mean that the shock is over. Now he is healing. We don't know his feelings now in ths moment.
For him go public is a good sign. But can be a bad sign too. That he is move on.
@Liz and @Monica- i lost weight too. I tought i was the only one. Lost appetite and bad sleep. I still have stomach pain but now is just a little.
My friends are telling me that i'm more thin. If this was in a another place and another time i would have been soo happy for the lost pounds. But i'm not.
@Ginger- hi sweetie : )
you could write the tittle of the RK video that you post please?
Are the things more calm?
kisses
GINGER that video would break your heart :0( Keep hoping for whatever is best for them!
@Maria, hahaha, yeah and I can think of e few more things but I'll prob get arrested for saying it.
It's unbelievable how this pathetic excuse of a man is walking scot free from all of this. Another classic example of double standards.
@Isis - you are so very very sweet - yeah the video Title is rk | i won't give up on us
I don't know - really the tabloid stuff is so out of control everyone is trying to get a piece of it - they had a reporter (I won't mention names) calling the haters and ninnies a like her people last night. I hope to God she never gets to interview Kristen or Kris gives her the finger after that. We live in a really screwed up word sometimes - makes me sad because I just don't get it - like at all. If they think they broke up then why the hell are they still all talking about Kristen.
@ Ali - it is sad but hopeful - the lyrics are killer.
@Sue - You know what says a lot about that A**hole (I tried to even ignore he existed) is that they did this together and both share certain faults but he is letting a 22 yr girl take the entire fall and backlash for this . He is a broken tool.
@Ginger, can you give me a title of that video. When I put in your link it doesn't work maybe if I have the name it will.
I have a week off and being a big sap, looking at some of my fav vids before they're taken down. Memory lane here I come, This is how it all started for me anyway, 2,5 yrs ago. Didn't even know what Twilight was but I'd seen Rob's and Kristen's name popping up here and there. By chance the movie was on tv, I watched, "wow" they have some chemistry, bang, need more, devoured YT, convinced they were a couple, found blogs, the rest is history.
Anyway, if you please Ginger.
Let me try the this one more time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JraAQjOnCwQ&feature=youtu.be
and the title of the video is
rk | i won't give up on us
let me know if it works
this will probably get me booted out of here but here goes.
in the spirit of carrying on our discussion of the other day about men and women i will tell you ladies about the woman i was married to for 16 years [don't worry i would never say anything bad about her] and let me stop what you are thinking before you even get a chance to think it
I DO NOT WANT HER BACK
yes she's beautiful. yes she;s funny, yes she's very intelligent and no i do not want her back
she could never get in to sports, which led to her saying things like "if homecoming is going to be a home game this year i would like to go" and i ran off of the road or the time my best friend tried explain to her how wonderful sports were. we were at a restaurant and he had the full attention of about 20 people while he recounted the story of the walk off homerun that gave LSU its world series win. the whole table was silent when she pops up with "i don't know, i just don't like football"
now i don't want you to she was dumb. i can prove that she is not: the woman has 2 post graduate degrees and she was married to me for 16 years.
i leave you with this: one morning while i was getting ready for work she sat on the edge of the bed watching the president on CNN. i don't know what he was talking about but it must have been bad because this is all i heard:"mr. president why don't you just suck my dick"
GOOD GRIEF, Roseland!
I come on here after a little over a day - and I have 1,000,000 comments to read! I give up! (Actually, I did read most of them).
So many great posts - I love all of the discussions, and glad the haters were shoo-ed away. Tempest - so glad you're here to share your perspective with this place. My worlds have collided, and it's good thing.
DK - great music, and thanks for the Minnie Ripperton. Wow - that takes me back! Used to think I could hit that high note! HA HA! In my dreams!
Here's to some good news... keep hoping!
Oh, and I really don't like this back to school business...
Kristen Stewart, the girl who has always preached about honesty, cheated on her boyfriend. She publicly confirmed it and called it a "momentary indiscretion" although, believing the reports and the intimacy shown in the pictures, it seems that this was not a one time thing. She probably spent weeks (or months?) lying to her boyfriend while sharing her bed with him and the other dude (no sex? Yeah... right!).
Kristen Stewart, who has always talked about work ethic, cheated on her boyfriend with a married co-worker. I guess that this is her definition of being professional!
Kristen Stewart, who has always defended her privacy, made a very public statement about... her private life!
Kristen Stewart, who has always avoided beig photographed with her long time boyfriend, chose a public place to cheat on him. Talk about humiliating a person you supposedly love...
This is the real Kristen Stewart.
What do you call a person who pretends to have certain virtues and principles and whose actions belie stated beliefs? An hypocrite!
Stop excusing her behavior, she doesn't deserve it! She's not the victim here, she knew what she was doing and did it anyway! How can you say that she loves Rob? How can you wish that he accepts her back??? He deserves better than this! He can have any woman he wants, why the hell should he stay with a person that has no respect for him???
So much for shoo-ing the haters away...
@isis...don't worry sweetie...my fanciful daydreams were brief and would only work in a forgiving world.
Unfortunately, we do live in a world of double standards, and as was mentioned last night, no matter the scenario Kristen would receive the brunt of the criticism.
Two weeks passing definitely doesn't guarantee her safety in public...but maybe by the time BD2 comes out, the lunatics will have calmed down, and more positive things will come to light.
Just keep sending love and kind wishes their way.
Jen:
well now what do you have to say about Rupert? You know the MARRIED man who pursued this 22 yr old woman, has two children and wife? Please enlighten us about him. Or are you saying he is blameless???
Appears day camp was let out early...
@Jen - She did whatever she did to her BF not you, not me, not anyone you know. Also you don't know shit about what happened that day anymore than me. Also ready for a real eye opener - every time you said something and done the opposite that makes you a hypocrite - beyond the judgmental jealous BS that is obviously coursing through your soul.
Oh - and she is a victim - she is a victim of you and the silly other women who feel it is their right to be her judge and jury . So sick of the self righteous stone throwing bullshit. Grow up , get a man, and stop worrying about her - don't you have a poster of him you need to lick.
@Robert - I think your are awesome - thank you for a much needed laugh
I try real hard not to say bad things about my ex either - after we were together for almost 18yrs - takes 2 to tango and 2 to walk away.
JMF...don't waste your breath...the twit is just stirring the pot.
@Jen...use your eyes more and your "mouth" less. Go back and read ALL the comments from the past two weeks. No one is absolving her of her guilt, but we are a forgiving bunch. I suggest you learn to have some compassion in your life. It might reduce the bile that you spew. Now run along back to your parents.
Geez...
@Maria - did you get the video to work - the maker of the video is xFiorels90
@Ginger and Robert...you have me in stitched!
"what do you have to say about Rupert?"
He's a scumbag, of course, but that doesn't erase Kristen Stewart's guilt. Do you know that he pursued her? You don't know that. And even if he did, she's 22 years old, she's not a child anymore. SHE KNEW WHAT SHE WAS DOING! She apologized for her actions, she knows that what she did is wrong! Unfortunately, certain fans don't.
Not yet. Will have to wait until I get home. Currently typing away on my phone...videos don't always work. But fio's are some of the best...so I will try later.
LOL Ginger I do love it here in Roseland. You were much more polite than I was going to be, and I will leave it at that. No, wait I will open the door so it doesn't hit her in the arse on the way out.
@Jen
a·pol·o·gy/əˈpäləjē/
Noun:
A regretful acknowledgment of an offense or failure: "my apologies for the delay".
A formal, public statement of regret, such as one issued by a newspaper, government, or other organization.
Please tell where you see intent in that. Yes we all know you know the truth cause Rob whispered it in your ear last night. Pop a pill, sounds like the voices are taking over
Something that just occurred to me, I wonder how many of these individuals who come here expressing righteous indignation, would have refused to sleep with Kristen's boyfriend had he invited them....
@Jen...no one is excusing her actions...but you can't throw out some serious accusations and criticism without knowing the facts. She hasn't released a play-by-play of what has occurred between her and Rupert including a timeline. And I highly doubt she ever will.
But you need to step back and ask yourself...what if things aren't as they appear? What if the paps have manipulated the situation because they can't stand her because she doesn't give in to their demands? What if gossip rags have succeeded in convincing you that she is the worst person to have walked the face of the Earth? What if someday you found out that the media intentionally maligned her and made a mountain out of a mole hill? How would you feel then? Would you regret your venom? Or would you look for something else to justify her unworthiness?
Choose your words wisely.
@angelica1...there is always an exception to their condemnation.
@ angelica1 - you know not 1 would pass the chance even if they were in a relationship. I think they secretly have a crush on Kristen as hung up on her as they are
Ginger - I have absolutely no doubt that you are 100% correct
Lovely...we've been infiltrated by Krisbians!
@Ginger...link is working on my nook...unfortunately connection is slow. I love the song! Sad to watch, but it does bring some hope.
@Maria - OMG I almost spit Dr Pepper all over my comp screen. That is funny - maybe we should refer to the ninnies as Krisbian
Hehehe;-)
@Ginger...okay the lump in the throat is back. I knew I needed more time before watching a robsten video. His words when referring to E & B fighting for their love, fighting to be together, I hope that they are prophetic.
But it gives you hope and you know what - she looks him in the eye all the time when she is talking - all the time.
She's always looked at him with her heart in her eyes...even when he wasn't looking.
@Maria - isn't that the truth - love is written all over her face
...and that is why its so hard to fathom how she has landed herself in this situation.
and the reason why we keep on rehashing it over and over again
@Rose...okay, now is a good time for an uplifting post...any news on TomStu and his bundle of joy?
Okay...need to make myself scarce for about four hours. Need to pack up and go to football practice.
Laters.
@Maria/@Ginger/@Angelica1,
laughing and nodding. You are hellcats (meant as a compliment).
Seen the video, beautiful, what happened still doesn't make any sense to me.
Hi everyone, I'm new here, and this is most likely going to be my first and last time posting.
Before I say my piece I'd like to simply say that I mean no disrespect to anyone here, nor do I have any harsh feelings towards Kristen or Rob.
I have reached my limit of patience and decided on the spur of the moment that I just had to respond to a theme I have read over and over again on this site and others.
I promise I will yell at no one and I will be respectful, which from what I've read here seems to be the main rule when posting.
I have read numerous times comments all over the blog from people who have said things similiar to what SteffiTwoBits said of "I wish all of the santimonious women trying Kristen to the stake would answer, honestly this question:" and then she talks about 'crossing lines' in relationships.
This is absurd theme is why I am commenting I feel it's time to let that one die out, because folks not everyone cheats or even wants to.
I can honestly say that I haven't crossed a line and cheated. I love my husband with all my heart and cheating is one of the most selfish things a person can do to another person. It's hurtful, hateful and destroys families. My Dad was a cheater so I've seen it first hand.
Whether or not people want to forgive Kristen's behavior or to excuse it, is not up to me, everyone has to live life the way they choose and if you feel comfortable in forgiving her for this go right ahead. As for me:
I will not forgive Kristen, the reason being, it's NOT my place to forgive her, she did nothing to me, this has nothing to do with me at all. What she did, is her burden to bear and whether or not Rob chooses to forgive her is up to him and what ever he decides is his right to do so and he should be allowed to make his choice about that based on his what his heart is telling him, not what the fanbase thinks.
We have no say so in their lives or their relationship, and wanting them to get back together if that's your thing, more power to you.
All I simply ask is PLEASE stop making comments as if everyone at some point or time has thought about or actually crossed the line into cheating.
What happens in my private life is my burden to bear, just as this is Kristen's. She placed it on her shoulders when she apologized and confessed to having a momentary...lapse of good judgement.
Lastly, I grew up with a Mother who made her living as a therapist. RULE NUMBER ONE: never diagnose someone's problems unless they're your patient and you have their personal history.
Since I have none of those things at my disposal about Rob and Kristen's relationship, I can't tell them how to 'fix' this, or even if they can fix this. All I can do is wish them nothing but the best.
And I wish the same for all of you.
Angelica- not one of them would've turned down that chance, not one...
Robert- Lol I love your stories. We need more! ;)
@Ginger - i saw the video , it's beautiful. The music is very revealling of what they are going to deal in the next days, weeks, months. Giving space to think, just waiting for the decision, won't give up. Gives you hope. Yes i see the love in her eyes when she looks to him, her smile, she is happy with him. God this is have to be true, so many people around the world saw the same look of love in both. I don't care what the media and haters and her one only mistake said, I BELIEVE SHE WAS AND IS STILL IN LOVE FOR ROB.
She loves him , her words in her statement proves that. She does not want our forgiveness, SHE WANTS ONLY ONE FORGIVENESS:ROB.
Could Rob be strong and give her secong chance? well, i don't know if his team and his friends will go let him do that. I think they want separate his image from her.
We will have to wait until November to find out the truth. How they gonna interact, they will talk to each other, look to each other or they will ignore each other. Doesn't matter what the stupid articles and tabloides with false sources are saying. The truth will come out in BD premiere. We know them, we will look for every smile, every gesture. If the love is still there, we will gonna see.
@Isis - the new thing is they are waiting for a picture of her to see what jewelry she has on to determine if they are over over or working on things....re-hashed again - looking for the ring. The tabloids have nothing to go on cause no one is talking so they will make up whatever they have to either knowing no will say anything one way or the other or it is their tactic to get someone to talk. Get it is about money but not all money is good money - I just wonder how some of those people sleep at night screwing with real peoples lives like a game.
Oh wow - what I wrote was half legible - just wow
You gotta have faith. If we are questioning the pictures, Rob will have questions about them as well. Of course he also knows more than we do as he should. We really don't have the right to know only what Rob and Kristen want us to know. I still believe that their love is strong and good, and if they work to work it out they will be stronger than ever before. And that is why I have my rose colored glasses on. :)
@Jen There were some major "I would nevers" I held strongly to @ 22 that had become "I wish I hadn't" by the time I reached 30. Those experiences taught me some hard lessons about myself. Some I allowed to make me better and some I stubbornly resisted and it kicks me in the ass every now and then to this day. At every stage in life we may feel like we have ourselves pretty well figured out. We're usually full of shit.
@darcusleshea - I like your post. I think you have a well balanced approach to this whole situation. I can't say the same as my glasses have a decidedly rosy tint. I appreciate your contribution.
Melanie Fiona
This Time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2TCNfpnobE
@Liz,Monica, Isis
I've been following this blog in the beginning 2010. I loss my weight too (every night have a nightmare about them). Everybody told me...WTF..You're not related to them. I don't know. I don't even dare to look gossip sites anymore. I've cheated once before but NEVER had sex with him. So, I believe that may be Kristen and RUPIG has a brief fling but never had sex. But who will believe this...Maybe Rob doesn't believe it. Man pride, Rob is so possessive to Kristen. I remember when the MTV Movie Awards 2011 when Peter Fach grabbed Kristen's upper arm, Robert seemed annoyed. Kristen is the bravest person in HW I've known. Everybody said if she hasn't been caught she won't made the statement but who knows what happened.
@Tempest...Do I have to see a therapist? I love Kristen Stewart the way I love my sister. Every statement that attack her made me crying...Please, help me....
@Liz,Monica, Isis
I've been following this blog in the beginning 2010. I loss my weight too (every night have a nightmare about them). Everybody told me...WTF..You're not related to them. I don't know. I don't even dare to look gossip sites anymore. I've cheated once before but NEVER had sex with him. So, I believe that may be Kristen and RUPIG has a brief fling but never had sex. But who will believe this...Maybe Rob doesn't believe it. Man pride, Rob is so possessive to Kristen. I remember when the MTV Movie Awards 2011 when Peter Fach grabbed Kristen's upper arm, Robert seemed annoyed. Kristen is the bravest person in HW I've known. Everybody said if she hasn't been caught she won't made the statement but who knows what happened.
@Tempest...Do I have to see a therapist? I love Kristen Stewart the way I love my sister. Every statement that attack her made me crying...Please, help me....
@miriah no you don't need to see one and if you did i would be speaking to you, oh wait!
LOL sorry, but i think everyone wants what is best for these two and when Kristen gets attacked it annoys me too. We are all humans and we do tend to make mistakes, that's how you learn to stand up and grow.
Rose I love your posts,you always say what I want to hear..TY
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