This is one of my favorite pictures of Rob and Kristen.
It was the beginning...
I really don't have any pithy comments anymore.
I'm kinda tired of the endless twitlongers
expressing anger/sadness/regret
about something that doesn't concern us.
I'm tired of all the judgement and accusations
about a relationship that we have only seen minutes at a time.
I'm tired of the undeserved hatred that Kristen Stewart has been
getting in this fandom from day one.
I'm tired of the assumptions and speculation made by
people who just want to profit off other peoples pain.
I'm tired that people seem to forget that Rob and Kristen
are flawed human beings...
and they have feelings just like you or me.
All I will say is that I want Rob and Kristen to find happiness
Wherever that road leads.
Yes.
I think when they come out on the other side...
They will be together.
But that's just me.
This fandom is incredibly selfish.
We don't want what is best for Rob and Kristen
We want what is best for us.
Let's face it...
The outcome we desire
whatever that may be
Isn't based on what will make Rob and Kristen happy...
It's what will make us happy.
I just want them to be OK.
No matter what I want or think will happen.
They deserve happiness.
I want people to just fucking leave them alone.
Rob is going to be on TV next week
promoting Cosmopolis.
I wish people could just focus on that.
I wish people could let Rob do his job
without having to put up with people screeching at him
about private intimate parts of his life...
Like they think they are entitled.
Next week is about Cosmopolis.
Rob is proud of this movie.
Rob is so proud of this movie that he is willing
to subject himself to some of the worst
this fandom has to offer.
Good Luck Rob.
I hope you have a LOT of security around you.
(and maybe some silver bullets?)
(and maybe some silver bullets?)
Final thoughts.
Normally I wouldn't post a pap picture of someone's baby...
But since you can't see baby Marlowe
I wanted to comment on something that I love about this picture
(Besides Tom... hair knot and all)
How protective Thomas is.
Look at him.
His arm is wrapped around the handle of the buggy...
He is holding on tight to his little girl.
He is holding on tight to his little girl.
How fucking adorable is that?
How adorable is HE??
Green Sheep.
Fucking forever.
2. I leave for Hawaii tomorrow morning.
I will be gone a week.
So...
I doubt I will be posting anything in that time.
Unless I'm sitting in a chair like the picture above
(which I plan on doing a lot, I may add)
and I get on my Ipad and post a picture or two.
It will definitely be hit or miss.
I have a dear friend watching the blog for me.
So all is taken care of.
Aloha!
Until next time.
Bye for now
And if you don't know where you're going
Any road will take you there
3,558 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 600 of 3558 Newer› Newest»I am not seeing this post that has everyone so riled up! Maybe that's a good thing! Consider the source and let it go!
I see Rose left someone in charge who knows how to take out the trash! hehe
Thank you for keeping Roseland troll free while Rose is away. :)
Tempest- she is entertaining in her stupidity, but she gets old quick ;)
Okay...moving along...everyone i applaud you i really do xx
@Rhonda LOL you think?
I'm raising my glass (red wine) to Rob on doing such a fantastic job of fulfilling his professional obligations in the face of so much scrutiny. He did seem a bit weary around the eyes, but put on a beautiful smile and gave the media the photo opp that Cosmopolis deserved. Well done, Rob. Slainte!
It's so nice once the trash has been taken out.
Just a helpful hint for the newer members of the board. We try not to repeat the trolls' message. That way, once they've been deleted, there is no trace of their message.
As Groovie suggested, we try not engage and give them an opportunity to spread their garbage.
It hates being ignored.
Tempest - The more venomous her posts, the better the news about Rob and Kristen that generally follows,ironically :)
LOL i am loling so fucking hard right now...*excuse my language on a break that is apparently richly deserved right about now*
GROOVIE
I agree with you but I have to say this
PTYS
You are bordering on criminal intent here with your comments. The blog administrators have the ability to track you down. Do you want the police showing up at your door????Just keep it up...Go ahead....
Wash, rinse, repeat...
Thank you to whoever is watching Rose's blog while she is on vacay!!
I'm sorry you have to deal with this special brand of poison....
Why is Green Day's "Basket case" playing in my head?
Remember that sage advice: Don't feed the Werehorse!
Hiya smart people!
Someone is full of bile...
Funny the band I just got tickets too - fitting
rise against make it stop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP4clbHc4Xg
MARIA
THAT'S IT. !!!!! She just needs her gallbladder removed!!!
Dottie - Is it like feeding gremlins after midnight?
I wonder what Werehorses eat....?
Only one word to describe this PITYS, psychotic.
Oh my! I am thankful I missed most of her rant...but she just keeps on going and going...and keeps sounding more illiterate as she continues!
@Tempest...thank you for being the collective voice of reason
@Dottie...here's a hug for you...the crazies are definitely out tonight.
@Annie...thank you for your coverage...you're quite brave to willingly deal with the chaos.
...and a good to Super, Ginger, DK, Loui and everyone else that I've missed. I'm gone for most of day and the loons invade!
Oh...and thank you to Rose's friend that is taking out trash this evening...we appreciate it.
Anyone watching TDS w/ JS yet???
From what I'm seeing on twitter so far, it's not like it was described by "fans"...imagine that!
...apparently I am not too coherent this evening. I meant "good evening"...not just plain "good". Geez.
Hi Melinda!..."fans" are known to embelish the truth...to eaches own agenda.
@Melinda: Just caught the last five minutes of the 11:00 showing.
It'll repeat here at 12:30AM........will watch it in it's entirety then.
I just watched Rob on John Stewart's show and he was really professional and it did no go the way it was described in the People article. He never said "it is" and the audience never said "awww". Rob maintained his privacy and handled John's comments with grace and humor.
@Maria - I just watched it and what was on twitter is not all how it went down - yes they edit but he joking about it the whole time - both of them.
It just ended and it wasn't what I expected. He laughed most of what Jon said off. Do they edit for the show? Anyway, can sleep now.
Everyone sleep well if it's your bedtime!
MELINDA
Yes. I just watched it. Rob did a great job. I think it's a shame though that people are making fun of this...
@Rob suggested the ice cream as a skit too and didn't look sad to me - it was actually pretty funny. John didn't go after Kristen he was been witty.
Hi everyone, I am wayyyyyy behind on reading posts, but I have to say something real quick!
@Sue *High Five* I feel exactly the same is you about being a "newbie". Although, I kinda don't consider myself one...I have been reading this blog now for almost four years. I posted in the past, but it was a very long time ago. Like you, I am still testing the waters and getting to know everyone.
I know some people from Twitter (I am @irisheyesmasen on Twitter too if you want to follow me back), and I know others from being in this fandom for what seems like, TOO LONG. LOL.
Anyway, some very good points were made today in posts where I was last reading, but I can't remember what I wanted to say now... LOL. Yes, I am writing like I am talking.
I will come back in a few after I have caught up.
Thanks
and John refers to it as a relationship at the end
Ginger - I caught that at the end too :)
Whew so I can watch it now. I taped it b/c I wasn't sure how I'd feel plus I hate commercials so there's that. Thanks ladies!
Some fans need to grow up and quit with the high school drama, ffs...
Wow Rob did a fab job and I feel much better about the upcoming BD2 promo. I think he'll definitely handle it. He was able to laugh about it which I think was the point so it's not a big shadow anymore. It was Jon saying everything about a breakup but Rob didn't directly acknowledge it but he didn't deny it either so for now I'm taking it as they're not together. I still have faith and a lot can happen in a few months. Kristen's first interview will probably be during BD2 promo. I hope she can handle herself as well. Rob says he's going to hire a publicist. That may be wise and take the air out of the crazy gossip sites and tabs will stories.
He put on a brave face but the hurt and sadness came through in the photos. I'm convinced he still loves her so this is going to be a pretty tough week. I'm proud of him. Stay strong sweetie!!
Don't think I'll catch the interview tonight...but hopefully it'll be on youtube tomorrow. Just saw the pics on robsten dreams...he looks so elegant...a little sad/tired around the eyes but thats understandable. I applaud him for making himself accessable to the media and fans this evening. He is so professional...so proud of him.
Okay time to fly. Glad the viper slithered away.
I have confidence that all will be okay in the end. Happiness will come. It just may take some time...
Night!
I believe that even if they are not together currently...doesn't mean that Rob will jump into dating other women. Maybe this is a necessary break for them to talk things out, collect their thoughts on what each one wants out of their relationship. I am in no way considering them done. Love is complicated at times...and every relationship has a testing point. This is theirs. God give them strength and wisdom.
Ooh and Rob does Gucci like no other!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He looked so sexy in the blue suit.
Glad I missed the troll! Yes, I too, thought about our dear old friend Leo....I hope he is well!
Wow, I cannot really say much that hasn't really already been said so eloquently and succinctly by so many of you.
@Melinda your quote from "Foster the People" absolutely applies, agreed.
@Tempest wow girl, gettin in on the haters, you swept the floor with her, good job.
@PITYS I pity you. You must have a very sad, unhappy, and bitter life to come here and talk such vitriol about someone you don't and will NEVER know! I can only assume you are a quiet, mousy, pimple faced teen that feels the need to come to blogs on the internet to build yourself up by putting down others. Run along now and go do your school homework, Junior High School can be quite demanding.
I am so happy and proud of Rob. I have not seen The Daily Show, nor have I been on Twitter all day. I am about to go watch TDS. I may drop back in after.
If I don't, I just have to say I very much enjoyed reading everyone's posts today.
cheers, hugs, and xoxo
night!
IEM
Starting to get crosseyed...time for bed.
Good night everyone.
Sorry I had to post and run earlier.
Angelica, I'm not sure what a werehorse eats. Maybe we should just stick with the silver bullets?
Without making too much of it I just wanted to say thanks to those of you who wrote such nice things on my behalf. It wasn't necessary but it sure was sweet. This is a special place full of very special people. No matter what, I will always be glad I found Roseland.
Congrats to Rob on a successful premiere and all the praise for his performance!
Bye!
Just see the RS show.Rob was so good of deflecting the conversation.
@Holy - he was and he answered nada - which I applaud and respect him for
Hi, so, I had to come back, just watched TDS... but before I comment on it...
@Dottie, I felt bad for you that Toni(?) attacked you. You were 100% correct in what you said. You are always so sweet, kind, and respectful. You deserve ALL the praise. :-)
As for TDS, here is my take because I was quite satisfied with it and have to share:
1. Rob deflected with *kisses fingers tips like a french chef* PERFECTION!
2. He walked in with a GOOD sense of humor and tackled the comments and questions posed with a sense of humor. He never seemed to take it too seriously. He needed a good laugh in my humble opinion.
3. He gave NO confirmation either way as to if they have broken up nor did he confirm it. Again that is the way I interpreted it. It also proves to me the point that we have been supporting Rose with in her Blog Posts. He nor his mamangement/agent/team/friends/family are saying ANYTHING at ALL to the media or the public.
4. And, he did look a little thinner, but he looked really good too. I think things are starting to wind down and he is getting to a point where he has some clarity. It will take a long long time to get past what has happened, but he is ON THE ROAD, and for that I am grateful. I can only hope he is getting help from and in turn helping Kristen in that endeavor.
I actually liked his hair styled the way it was styled. He professionals and physically good, and he was NOT wearing his heart on his sleeve. I am so proud of him. He has come a long way through the years. He is growing and progressing through interviews with class, dignity, grace, and confidence. He still says things that are silly. But that is his way and his personality, and I don't want him to change who he is...the adorkable, sweet young man, that is completely loyal and (I believe) forgiving.
Okay, sorry, kind of long winded, but I had to share my thoughts.
Now I am really going to bed. I will try to stop by tomorrow, but I have another long busy day ahead of me tomorrow.
Night Roseland, hugs, xoxo
IEM
@Ginger-and I'm so proud of him for handling it well.I like Rob's reply about kicked her to the curb,he deflected by saying "your talking about yourself?" and then Jon said " oh yeah from the time I was 17 until ...oh 36.
I have to vent!
Sorry, I am back again! I just made the mistake of checking my timeline on Twitter.
God help me, some of the peeps on Twitter are batshit crazy, and as loony as the day is long.
I recorded TDS and in no way shape or form did I hear Rob say "It Does" to being young and going through a break up and the world ending. @TinkerBe1l3 (Mod at RobObssessed Blog) is trying to claim that is what was said. Unless it was pre-edit, I didn't hear or see him say it. At this point, I would only believe it was said if I was personally there, so since I wasn't, pre-edit be damned...he didn't say it! Oy!
Okay rant over, sorry, I just had to say it to like minded sane peeps. Even if you don't agree, at least I got it off my mind and out to the universe. Thanks for reading!
Night! :-)
Phew! Feel like I've run a marathon right here on my barstool (at home) while quietly reading posts here.
We won the race. Sanity prevails on Roseland. Amen.
Good show Rob! Thanks Jon Stewart for a grace filled, ice creaming eating interview.
Honestly, if there is one thing I've learned the past 3 weeks its that so many people are idiots.
Some will always see and hear what they WANT regardless. And then others take what those idiots say and run with it.
We all (or most, presumably) have brains, eyes and ears. USE THEM!
I will never understand why people don't.
This Jon Stewart interview is a perfect example.
You have these Robsessed Kristen hating "fans" with an agenda saying how the taping went down. Then you watch it for yourself and wow, what a surprise! It was nothing like that!!
Then you have others saying how "sad" Rob looks. Then you watch the interviews and while he may not be 100% "normal" Rob he clearly isn't sobbing and wallowing in misery on the red carpet either!
I know I used my own brain, and eyes, and ears and what I saw was Rob doing his best to promote his movie. Sure it was a little awkward at first on the Daily Show but Jon Stewart kept it light and silly with his "girl talk" routine and Rob just played with his soupy icecream and deflected with humor. As always.
He didn't say or do anything to disrespect Kristen and he didn't say or do anything to indicate what is really happening in their personal life, including the status of their relationship.
He was all class.
I'm sure things aren't all sunshine and hearts and flowers with either of them, or bwtween them. But he is clearly okay enough to tackle this promo and smile and laugh and joke around like always. And from all accounts he had a good time at the after party as well. That isn't something he is obligated to go to. If he wanted to go back to the hotel and cry himself to sleep he could have. But he didn't. He celebrated his film and had a good night.
To me, that speaks volumes. I'm sure they are hurting and times are hard and this promo is probably a little extra nerve wrecking for him. But, imo, they are probably both in an okay enough place for him to take care of his professional obligations without either of them falling apart at the seams and drowning in agony.
Its good to see him smile and be confident and promote a film he is so proud of. So good for him! And I'd bet Kristen is rooting him on too :)
Oh and just a disclaimer, I'm not talking about anyone HERE being idiots. Just general stuff I've seen people saying or talking about elsewhere.
(Although we do get visitors from some idiots here now and then, but you all know that! Perfect example of that earlier tonight! Lol)
rob looked great. he handled himself with grace and class. he might get a pr rep, but he doesn't need one. the boy is quick on his feet, and handles himself great. the jon stewart was really good. it was nice to see humor right now. i thought from the way some crazy rob and kristen fans going on. i thought it was going to be horrible.
@Ginger and @Tempest,
You have my head bouncing up and down. Obviously we are not talking about some imaginary foe, you are responding to tweets, yes?
Man even a show they are spinning around, unbelievable. I suppose they wanted Rob to slag her off, kick her down and laugh about it. Rob is pure class and I have nothing but respect for him.
He came out with his head high, showed he is not gonna talk about it, if they could only respect that. Idle hope.
I have known dottie for a long time and she is a wonderful person and Rob and Kristen supporter. Hugs dottie
Tempest~love your posts and your own blog as well.
Rose~I hope you are enjoying your Hawaiian vaca
I am praying for Rob and Kristen and hope they both know how much they are loved.
I Don't Want To Talk About It
Rod Stewart:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Azcy9_F0DCE
I can tell by your eyes
That you've probably
Been cryin' forever
And the stars in the sky
Don't mean nothin' to you
They're a mirror
I don't want to talk about it
How you broke my heart
If I stay here
Just a little bit longer
If I stay here
Won't you listen to my heart
If I stand all alone
Will the shadows
Hide the color of my heart
Blue for the tears
Black for the night's fears
If I stay here
Just a little bit longer
If I stay here
Won't you listen to my heart
Oh, my heart
My heart
Thank you/troowun
There are quite a few at the robsessed board who have never liked Kristen and loathe her entirely now so i would be mindful of what she or anyone else who is a die hard Rob fan would put up as fact.
@meadowgirl25
Nice to see you here. I agree that those three (Dottie/Tempest/Rose) are lovely as can be.
Rob & Kristen are pretty smart with the heart stuff and all of that. They know.
@groovie i completely agree!
@Tempest
Am wary and so weary of the silly made up "facts" of those with huge lacks, in their lives within/without.
wow the trolls went into my board LMAO
Shine On You Crazy Diamond
Pink Floyd (26 mins)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1i-RKqOFxQ
Remember when you were young
You shone like the sun
Shine on you crazy diamond
Now there's a look in your eyes
Like black holes in the sky
Shine on you crazy diamond
You were caught in the crossfire
Of childhood and stardom
Blown on the steel breeze
Come on you target
For faraway laughter
Come on you stranger
You legend
You martyr
And shine
You reached for the secret
Too soon
You cried for the moon
Shine on you crazy diamond
Threatened by shadows at night
And exposed in the light
Shine on you crazy diamond
Well you wore out your welcome
With random precision
Rode on the steel breeze
Come on you raver
You seer of visions
Come on you painter
You piper
You prisoner
And shine
Nobody knows where you are
How near or how far
Shine on you crazy diamond
Pile on many more layers
And I'll be joining you there
Shine on you crazy diamond
And we'll bask in the shadow
Of yesterday's triumph
And sail on the steel breeze
Come on you boy child
You winner and loser
Come on you miner for truth
And delusion
And shine!
Thank you/RacingAccidents2
Morning Everyone!
Well I'e seen at least 3 "versions" of what was supposedly edited from the same person, I think the best policy is to take what Rob actually said/did at face value since what's shown is clearly what he wanted out there and since he has no hidden agenda, I'll go with him anyday. I thought he looked a little thinner,tired and nervous, none of which are surprising but I thought he handled the whole night with class and maturity and did a great job of promoting Cosmopolis.
@angelica1
Morning to you! Face value works for me, like on money and with words out of actual mouths.
We Won't Get Fooled Again
The Who (8:33 mins):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q
We'll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship
Will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgment of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun
Sings the song
I'll tip my hat
To the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin
At the change all around me
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
And I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
Change it had to come
We knew it all along
We were liberated
From the fall that's all
But the world looks just the same
And history ain't changed
'Cause the banners
They all flown in the last war
I'll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I'll get all my papers
And smile at the sky
For I know that
The hypnotized never lie
Do ya
There's nothing in the street
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced
By-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Is now the parting on the right
And the beards have al
Grown longer overnight
I'll tip my hat to the new Constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change
All around me
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!
YAAAAAAH!
Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss
Thank you/BBVCtom
Good day to all in Roseland.
First of all, I am so proud of Rob. He has class and that speaks volume of his good personality.
The smile and the way he joked assured me that he is atleast on the right emotional track. Hopefully he enjoyed himself for Cosmopolis.
As for Kristen, I cant help from wondering what she is doing now. Did she also look at Rob's pictures the same way as we looked at it? No one will know that. The best hope is that both of them are in good hands and constantly supported by families and friends.
As to @DreamerKind, I love your 'I Don't Want To Talk ABout It'. You always find the most suitable songs at the most needed times. For that, I thank you ;-)
@faa
Thanks, that's my aim, to reflect on what is projected. Hope you are well.
@Wania
Where you been and why not posting?
@Lucky
Tell that someone to come back. I'll shut up.
Oh, really good news! I'll be away from any internet from tomorrow evening until Weds night. So, have at it friends, and don't delete any of your fun stuff, will ya?
It seems my blog is being attacked by the very same person who came on her to spout her dogma. As much as it is entertaining to see one person spew venom all over the place, it is a bit tiring lol to be honest.
Ah well she will eventually run out of steam....
Morning:
I think we all knew that the interview with Jon Stewart would be dissected within an inch of it's life........I wasn't there, so I am not dissecting anything.
I had no doubt that the show would be accused of editing out when it came to pushing one point of view or the other.
Jon Stewart and The Daily Show pull no punches and I can't see them editing out anything.
Whatever Rob and Kristen have decided about their relationship will be revealed soon enough.
All the reasons I love and admire kristen Stewart are still there, I miss seeing her and I want her to dust herself off and step out into the world again.
People like me aren't judging, a little disappointed of course but not judging.
I've said this many times before I believe in love, forgiveness and second chances.
Also, please STFU with this misguided sense of perfection........we all fail, sometimes in small ways and many times in big ways.
See you out here Kristen.
All I can say is Robert Pattinson, you are the epitome of classy.
DK,
Loved the quotes. Thinking about you.
Annie,
Absolutely!
Giving You The Best That I Got
Anita Baker:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Bn6Itz9WuQ
Ain't there something I can give you
In exchange for everything you give to me
Read my mind and make me feel just fine
When I think my peace of mind is out
Of reach
The scales are sometimes unbalanced
And you bear the weight of all that has to be
I hope you see that you can lean on me
And together we can calm a stormy sea
We love so strong and so unselfishly
And I tell you now that I made a vow
I'm giving you the best that I got, baby
Yes I tell you now, that I made a vow
I'm giving you the best that I got, honey
Everybody's got opinions
'Bout the way they think our story's gonna end
Some folks feel it's just a superficial thrill
Everybody's gonna have to think again
Somebody understands me
Somebody gave his heart to me
I stumbled my whole life long
Always on my own, now I'm home
My weary mind is rested
And I feel as if my home is in your arms
Fears are all gone, I like the sound of your song
And I think I want to sing it forever
We love so strong and so unselfishly
And I made a vow so I tell you now
I'm giving you the best that I got, baby
I bet everything on my wedding ring
I'm giving you the best that I got,
Givin' it to you baby
Thank you/BigBankX
@Birdie
Just think and then blink, and I'm here. Rob is genuine.
@Annie
Pick yourself up, dust yourself off and start all over again is good advice for us all. Plus those are fab lyrics, too. Happy day to you, our fine premiere dona.
@Annie
Meant premiere bella donna, as in prima ballerina, primavera, everything that is the best of and beautiful.
Getting slapstick silly and that ain't pretty.
Flying south for some cozy blanket warmth on this chilly morn. Ciao.
Morning Birdie and DK. :)
DK: You bring the biggest smile to my face...... Big bear hug! :)
Heading out to start my day.
Here's to a great day for everyone.
Bye.
Hi everyone! I enjoyed reading the comments that were made while I was sleeping. :)
TEMPEST-Sorry the hate has made it's way to your blog.
DK-We will miss you while you are away from here. Hurry back!
MEADOW-<333
GROOVIE-Tell us how you really feel, babe! haha Loved your rant!
Waves to BIRDIE, FAA, SUE, ANGELICA, ANNIE & anyone else who passes through.
Goodmorning everyone! Just a quick "hello" before I begin my day.
@Tempest...sucks that you are no dealing with the infestation...do you have werehorse repellent? I hear it works wonders on those PITYful critters!
@DK...enjoy your little trip. Come back to us safely. We'll be keeping your spot warm.
@Tempest...I meant "now dealing".
Apparently the coffee hasn't reached my brain yet.
Rob looked Gorgeous last night and did himself proud. I think he must have had some input into the interview, with the skit about eating ice cream cos he's going through a break up make me think they are broken up at the moment, but that doesn't mean that will stay that way.
I liked his hair and he had a bit of a suntan which suits him so well, yes his eyes looked a bit sad but whose wouldn't after what has happened.
Have a great day everyone xo
Rob did really well he is a brave guy to face the media (and crazy fans) and stay such a professional, very classy indeed, though I did see a sadness in his eyes.
I am off to see if Cosmopolitis is out by me anywhere that is the best way fans can support him right now. And, the only thing we should in interested in doing at this point, this back and forth bickering is getting tiring. I have been on the board for three years and always felt if stated respectfully even with a different opinion, welcomed. I have seen a lot of people who use to speak to me here not even say a "Hello" anymore most likely because I refuse to baby what Kristen did and make excuses for her now I agree we don't have all the facts and ya know what, we shouldn't.
I don't take it personally to be honest, but that is just me, but just because someone may have a different opinion, doesn't mean they have a high horse. It means they have just that a different opinion I am not speaking of the disgusting ones, the ones who spread their hate viral I wish they could be held responsible with this defamation against Kristen and Rob both and whoever else they drag into their delusions. These are actors and their lives not ours. Period.
And Yes Rob, I agree get a PUBLICIST! lol
DK have a safe trip wherever you are off to.
30 I'm just wondering do you think Torri was right in what she said to Dottie and everyone else?
Freddie I asked 30 that question cos she used the term "high horse" which someone said in reply to Torri, that is why I was wondering if she was trying to say she agreed with what Torri said. I know 30 has been coming here a lot longer than me and I know she is not a hater.
Freddie also about the broken up/not broken up thing. As I said above I think they are broken up now but we can't rule out a reconciliation at some point. I think Rob being the kind of person he is will find it very hard to get past a thing like cheating especially with someone who is married as he has a lot of respect for marraige (IMO from what I've seen him say in intervies etc.)
Honestly Ali Mac, I did not read through ALL of the comments and missed a lot I think from the past few days I am only going by my experience here the past few weeks. So for me to say I agree without facts would be ridiculous. I had no idea Annie was attacked? I did read Dottie being told? (If that is the correct word) and yes, I found that not cool at all but I do agree with what Freddie said and that is just in general, not towards a specific person.
Freddie: You may very well be right, no one knows.
I do wish Rob had made some plea to stop the excessive hate that Kristen continues to receive............I found that a rather significant omission.
It would have done a lot to make these out of control haters back off.
The true status of their relationship will be revealed at some point and then we'll all know.
Freddie isn't it amazing though how in some people's eyes, I who have defended Kristen with passion and loyalty the past three years would ever be considered a "hater" because I found what happened to be disturbing? And, will not defend this particular act? I mean not to beat a dead horse here and we don't have all of the facts as we shouldn't, and I am trying not to judge, but really that mentality "If you don't agree with me" you are a "hater" is just so out of my minds scope I can't grasp it. The mentality is worldwide even with political issues.
@Freddie and @Ali While I agree to the possibility that the broken up "skit" could have been a ruse to take that off of Rob's shoulders to confirm/deny, I still find it interesting that he never did either. Pre-edit or not. My recorded version was what "Rob and his team" wanted out there for the world to view and see in my humble opinion.
It was a perfect opportunity to confirm or deny, but he didn't. I may be seeing what I want to see, I don't know, but he did what he always does in relation to questions/references etc... about Kristen. He deflected, used humor, went with the flow, and never directly answered any questions about it.
I really like something I saw last night on Twitter from @Real_pr_pro if you follow her, check out her timeliine. I hope she doesn't mind me quoting here. This is the tweet she posted:
"When I heard that Rob's first interview would be with Jon Stewart I thought it was a good idea - Stewart would most likely start off with a humorous reference and that would address the elephant in the room in a lighter context. Now that I have seen the show I no longer think it was a good idea - I think it was a BRILLIANT idea.
The set-up of the girl friends bonding over ice cream was the perfect device for getting past the awkwardness, and the image of "poor Rob." In less deft hands it could have fallen flat, but Stewart had the skill and grace to carry the majority of the interaction while making it seem like an easy back and forth. There are few hosts with the intelligence and style to carry this off -- but Jon Stewart made what could have been an awkward and uncomfortable interview much easier for both Rob and the audience.
Perhaps the best part was his parting words to Rob, when he said that he hoped Rob would have the privacy he needed to work out his personal life. The inherent likeability of both men shown through at that moment. And it was a very heartwarming thing to watch.#JonStewart"
So, with that said and shared, my take... They are separated, in limbo, and still trying to figure out what they want. Does that mean officially "broken up". I honestly don't think they have said those particular words to each other yet. However, I believe they are taking a much needed "break" to gain clarity, space, and to explore if this situation has helped them maintain the ability to "make the heart grow fonder" with absence from each other.
Rob was quoted in Toykyo way back in 2009 something about "when you are away from that person, you miss them more, and can't wait to see them again". I think he believes that if he has time and space away from her, he can test if he can see his life without her in it and if he can be away from her permanently.
Time will tell.
Also, in her last sentence she eluded to the "privacy" comment from Jon Stewart. That to me indicated that he is definitely still in limbo and WANTS/NEEDS the public to give him and Kristen their privacy to work everything out.
Sorry, kinda long winded, but that is my take on how I see things as they stand. I know most may not agree... but there it is.
I am trying to maintain staying away from gossip and I am back on that train again today.
Off to start another really busy day.
Take care everyone, have a great day.
Hugs,
IEM
Hi Freddie, I agree w/you - it would be a shame if people felt they couldn't express their opinions here, even if it differed from the majority.
It's ok if we don't agree on everything. We shouldn't take it personally when someone challenges our viewpoint, as long as they are doing it respectfully.
Maybe we should all try a little harder to give each other the benefit of the doubt and assume the best in each other, especially those of us who have known each other for a while. We should also feel free to go to a person if we have been offended and give them the chance to explain. Alot of times people dont even realize there is a problem that needs to be fixed if we dont tell them.
*Not trying to tell anyone how to feel, react, or think. I'm talking about myself as much as anyone else. Sorry to be so long-winded.
Hello to 30, ali mac, maria & all the rest. Hope you have a grand day! :)
HI Dottie!:)
And very wise advice.
To 30:
I don't have an issue with your opinion......It is yours and I have been here long enough to know how you have defended her.
I don't think things are as black and white as it seems and I find it appalling the hate that's being directed at Kristen.
People can be disappointed.....God knows I am but JFC, the vitriol is not only shocking but disturbing and people are running with it..
IRISHEYES
I agree with you. The more I think about it Jon Stewart did a great job....and ROB was great...he really handled it with just the right amount of acknowledgement but still accomplished his goal which was to promote Cosmopolis
DEAR ROB
My husband and I are coming to NYC over Labor Day weekend and are bringing my good friend Dian...who is working on her " bucket list".. She has terminal cancer...she went to the Grand Canyon several weeks ago..her sister and Bro-in-law took her...unfortunately she ended up in a hospital in Flagstaff Arizona for a few days...then she took her adopted son who is 10 ..her Son in law took them...to Disney World last week..anyway, she asked me if I would take her to NYC...so Hubs and I booked the trip and we are going so ...
I PROMISE I WILL SEE COSMOPOLIS there if its still playing...hopefully it will...I WILL !!!!!!
DK,
I cannot influence anyone's return here but maybe the person in question is a prime example of not welcoming a difference of opinion. Fingers crossed ;)
Freddie,
Being a longtime lurker, I have always appreciated your comments. You speak your mind but do it in a very respectful way. I agree with you entirely. I think Rob's intent is clear that at this moment he's moving forward, alone. I too believe the account that says he did say "It does". The person I saw saying that is Rob's #1 fan, but she wants what Rob wants and has always made that clear. If he wanted to date a lizard she'd be supportive.
Rob knew that interview was going to go the way it did. He didn't deny anything but just let it slide. That in itself is maybe his response. I think Rob handled himself with dignity and class. As far as we know he didn't create this situation yet he had to be the one to brave the media, press and fans alone and he did it with charm and grace.
Annie,
No surprise I'm going to have to disagree with you. He doesn't have to say anything about Kristen and I kind of think that would actually do more harm than good. JMO
Thanks for answering me 30, as I said above I never thought you were a hater, I was just clarifying what you were trying to say.
I've just finished the hoovering and am taking a break with an ice lolly (don't know what everyone else calls them) I have to mop the floors now :0( but then I'm going to take the kids for a walk to the duck pond, enjoy the rest of your day everyone.
@Luckystrike87:
No, no surprise there at all....LOL.
Do you honestly think it could get any worse? Honestly?
People are completely unhinged.
Rob and his team had to be aware of how vitriolic this has become......It is my opinion that it is wrong of him to let the hate slide.
It has become more than people not liking what she did.
Hi Super, Mel, Lucky, Annie and Sydney !
For the record, I never thought of 30 as a hater, either. I am surprised that anyone would.
OK got to run now! I have to be somewhere in 30 mins and am nowhere near ready.
Bye!
Oops! Hi to IEM too :)
@Lucky
Oh, if only it were that simple.
I don't believe it was not welcoming a difference of opinion, for we do, but an intent to protect and contain exposure of the very heartfelt, utterly distressing nature of the discussion, for those involved which included also, ourselves. You have no influence and no one should. If it is truly helpful, then that's what matters. Fingers crossed. :)
@IRISHEYES
thanks for posting that tweet because that's exactly how i felt last night after watching the show.It really breaks my heart seeing Rob for the first time and thinking that Kristen is suffering too wherever she is.
I still believe in happy ending and i hope and pray that Rob will find all the answers that he need.
KEEP THE FAITH
@IRISHEYES
thanks for posting that tweet because that's exactly how i felt last night after watching the show.It really breaks my heart seeing Rob for the first time and thinking that Kristen is suffering too wherever she is.
I still believe in happy ending and i hope and pray that Rob will find all the answers that he need.
KEEP THE FAITH
Annie,
Since you and I can be relied upon to always have the most civil debates, lol, I think perhaps Kristen herself needs to speak. I am no PR expert, but maybe if she spoke with someone in the media that she trusted, it would do some good. Her haters will always hate no matter what but her supporters that are angry,yet trying to stay in her corner would appreciate her honesty. Almost everyone would applaud her courage in coming forward, much like they are doing with Rob and his honoring his promo commitments.
Fire away!
I hope my words are heard and understood, by whomever needs to hear them, for they come from a place of willingness to be helpful and where everyone is forgiven.
@Luckystrike87: :)
Kristen has spoken......She admitted her wrong, with no or very little lag time between those pictures being printed.
Point me to another celebrity who has ever apologized for any of their bad behavior in such quick time?........there are none!
Rob has honored his promo commitments and that is all.
He has refused to address the hateful/vitriolic comments directed at Kristen.......I don't need to know the status of their relationship but it would be nice to hear from his mouth, that he is not in anyway shape or form in agreement with the vicious/Insane hate being directed at Kristen and it is vicious!
Him and his team has to be aware of it and to let it slide is not right..........No movie tickets bought/butts in seats/ Let's maintain the I am single mantra is worth being silent ESPECIALLY with people so unhinged.
DK: Crystal clear! :)
@ luckystrike87 - see what scares me the most is the people interviewing Rob are doing so with the sympathy card and with her it will be with a torch and stake. I doubt they will treat her kindly as they are not doing so without her present and if she does talk she will be ridiculed even more - look at how people reacted to her apology. Here is the absolute cynical part of me - I now wish she wouldn't have said nothing at all because for whatever the purpose she felt the need to say it - it was used against her. There is no winning in this situation for her and I am not sure when she will have repented enough to society for her to be allowed to be a human being again - right now she is being treated like trash.
I understand being disappointed at her and not condoning what she did but when I think of it in the grander scheme of things had it not been Rob who was wronged would this have been such a major crisis in the world, would we have the level of outrage there is - I am leaning to the not so much (not talking about people on here just people in general).
If they do call it over for good - I hope they move forward and do great things and will be disappointed if they can not even remain friends - they helped each other a lot in this crazy time and I think it would make me sick to my stomach that they hated each other. If it is over I hope Kristen pulls herself together and gets out - she is the only one we have not seen yet. I hope she doesn't give up on herself and goes on living too as she deserves to live as well and face it - she is not.
Sorry for the speech and I am trying to be positive and hoping for them to make it together and I thought J. Stewart was funny I just am not sure I like watching the joke be on her and I would feel 100% the same if the roles were reversed - enough is just enough at some point.
Oh morning guys
@DK thank you for letting me spill my feelings to you last night, you have a great shoulder to lean on
Annie,
Why aren't you willing to let Rob keep his privacy in this matter much like you want Kristen to be able to? He defended her in the past, but her actions kind of took that responsibility away from him.
Again, JMO, don't everyone think we're starting a war here.
Ginger,
I see what you are saying, I really do, but I think a compassionate reporter such as an Ann Curry or even Barbara Walters would be able to handle an interview with courtesy and respect. Interviews are taped, her people could rule out the things they don't like. Again, don't know how the business works, but I don't think anyone would balk at guidelines set up just to be able to get the interview.
And I agree, that perhaps her biggest "crime" was to do this to a very loved, highly likeable person like Rob. If it had been Oregano no one would have caredm, she probably would have been cheered on in that case.
I really need to go to work now.
Luckystrike87:
You do realize that Kristen has defended him too many times without regard for herself.
I understood protecting your privacy.......This is not a matter asking him when was the last time he and Kristen had sex!
This is about addressing the insane hate towards someone he loves/loved!
When Kristen spoke about him she never gave out any details of their life together, she said "it was obvious "who she was dating and her "boyfriend was in that movie(referring to Bel Ami"........ All she got in return was "I don't talk about my personal life" "That's a personal question" and "no comment" every damn time, every time!
Addressing the hate is the least he can do . It has reached a point where it can't be ignored.
Last night (well, it's night for me), I read @Torrimarie's comment and thought about responding coz I felt so unformatable for her accusation on some posters "excusing Kristen's action". Eventually I decided not to because I knew once I responded, there must be drama. And this caused me another sleepless night.
@Dottie, thx for responding and I didn't find anything unrespectful about your comment.
I'm kinda new but not really. I started to come to this blog around March/April 2010. Left comments for a bit but just be an onlooker then. I always appreciated exchanges between the ladies here. They talked about their hubs, kinds and families. All these sharings of daily life stories gave me warm feelings.
I was more of a commentator on Robstenation. I went by "Mon" there. Like @isis and @sue, I felt so lost and abandoned after Robstenation closed. Then I remember this place. Rose has always been a wonderful lady and has her witty way with words of course. Yes, I have to admit I'm a Kristen fan and a Robsten fan (sorry, know some of you guys hate the term but I truly find it endearing. I still does. :P) I was and am thankful for Rose coz she has always embraced Kristen even it is a site dedicated to Rob initially. I feel warm and fluzzy inside whenever her post mentions Kristen. So I think I'll be welcomed here.
I guess there is no need to start a popularity contest between Rob and Kristen on this blog, which I thought was something @Torrimarie also complained about. This is always a Rob's board. 90% of the ladies here love and appreciate him. It isn't like I'm making tons of posts praising Kristen here.
I really like Rob too. He is a sweet guy with class. I grew to like him because of Kristen. I'm especially thankful for his love towards Kristen. The way he looksd at her, his tenderness, his protectiveness. Even he couldn't be with Kristen anymore, I'd always greateful for him. It'd be Kristen's loss. I wish Rob nothing but luck and success even I may not support his career like the way I support Kristen's. (Sorry, he just doesn't excite me like Kristen does.) It's just me, my personal taste. Fair?
(to be continued)
Monica from Asia
Before I go and I have to go.......Those Barbara Walters/ Anne Curry/Diane Sawyer interviews achieve nothing!
I don't like it for Rob or Kristen.....
Address the hate........the end!
Rob's on GMA tomorrow........perfect timing. It can be done in 10 seconds or less.
Do it and be done!
Have to go. Bye.
(continue)
I come to this board to find a sense of companionship. I enjoy reading your comments and add one or two when feeling appropriate. Thank you for letting me express what I think even I don't sing praise for Rob in my every post. (btw, I'm glad he went to Cannes too.)
I think I understand why @Torrimarie and some feel no one points out Kristen's wrong doings here. They may feel better if there are blames for Kristen once in a while, as if justice is upheld, or as if it is a (twisted) way to show Rob support. People, do you think we, Kristen's fans, are not hurt and disappointed seeing Kristen like that? But I refuse to beat a dead horse. Isn't the hate out there, everywhere, on many other sites, enough? Everyone takes bad about Kristen. Have you tried to think of possible reasons for her behavior? Surely, we'd never know but if you love someone like a family, wouldn't you try to make sense of her action? If it's your son/daughter, would you simply join those accusations and not try to undestand what happened? If it's your son/daughter and you know his/her is truly sorry, would you wish poeple give him/her a second chance? If you think there is not enough finger pointing, go to other sites. Their comments make me sick to the stomach until now.
I have lost weight and become physical ill. My heart still aches every minute, every day even it has been weeks. I do not have an genuine smile since that day. And you know what, some people accuse us excusing!! Fuck, everytime I see comments like that, my heart hurts more. But the hardest thing is that I imagine Kristen is suffering a thousand times more and probably being eaten up by guilt. And poeple complain there is not enough criticism. Really, like it isn't painful enough.
I find comfort and compassion from Rose's posts and the comment section. That's why I visit and leave comments.
@Tempest, I visited your board and left 2 comments. Wow, the hate over there is impressive and you handle with such great patience! I applaud for you.
Monica from Asia
Ginger, ITA. She is being treated like trash out there. The biggest sinner in human history. Enough is enough. Sigh~~
But I think addressing the issue publicly is not wise, at least of now. Maybe until the hate and media attention die down a bit. (I doubt if the day will come.) I personally think Kristen is not ready for any form of public appearance yet. Maybe a few months later. Sigh, if it's painful for us fans to withness that, do you think how painful it will be for Kristen?
Monica from Asia
@Lucky - I know you are work so you will see this when you get home but what does she tell and who is she explaining for. She will get accused of using Rob (again), lying, selling herself out (and really she would be - why should anyone have to plead to the masses to forgive them for something that does not effect them), and being fake no matter the platform no matter who interviewed her. I have to say that would break my heart to watch her allow the public to consume her to make us feel better - the error no matter your take on it is not one that should cease you from living. Like I said I am in a really funky place with this - I am not even sure they would be happy if she died tomorrow - that even that would be enough and that says a lot about us - how wrong is that.
Let me say this before I drop off (promises, promises).
People <3!
I saw Rob on Jon Stewart last night and I was very impressed with how he handled himself and he looks really good.
Dottie, I completely agree with everyone else you were unfairly attacked yesterday and I am sorry that happened to you.
You know, when my sister got pregnant the first time, she called me over to her house to come and get her she was leaving her husband. So I hurried over there and she was yelling at him at the top of her lungs that she knew he had hidden her socks, she called that poor guy everything but a man, and then announced that because of him hiding her socks she was leaving, it was about this time I gently told her that the socks were in her hands, she then threw them at me and said 'I KNEW YOU'D TAKE HIS SIDE!!"
My point is yes Torrimarie overreacted but that doesn't mean she's a bad person, crazy, on a high horse etc, she's just having moments of crazy hormonal rage.
However, unlike my sister and the socks who was completely nutso. Torrimarie did bring up a good point.
To defend Kristen these days is pretty much a guarantee that you will be accepted on the blog, to defend Rob or to express your anger in a respectful way will guarantee you are shunned by people who have been your friend for years.
I posted on this blog for a couple of years and while not someone who was very well known but I did make friends. I won't post under my real name because I am afraid that I too will suffer what 30 has gone through of being ignored by people I have counted as good friends for years.
I mean no disrespect but while Torrimarie was completely irrational yesterday in her attack there was an underlying truth to some of the things said. Those people who are angry at Kristen for hurting Rob are considered to be and sometimes treated like the enemy when in reality none of us are saying that we hate Kristen, that's not even remotely true.
I can only speak for me and me alone, but for me, I am angry at Kristen because her choice hurt not only Rob, but herself. I don't like seeing people hurting when it can be prevented. But just because I feel that way doesn't make me or anyone else the enemy.
I'm sorry if I have upset anyone, that is not my intention. I am plainly saying Torrimarie was wrong in her actions yesterday, she was wrong in taking on Dottie, but once you get past those facts and remove the more vicious comments she made, there is a kernel of truth to what she was saying.
The blog has divided into two separate camps, those people who are angry at Kristen and concerned for Rob, but are afraid to openly make those comments, and those who wholeheartedly and very openly support Kristen no matter what. Only one group has been free to state their side without repercussions.
The blog has always been a place where both Rob and Kristen were equally supported, where of someone came here and began talking about how Rob or Kristen's fans were allowed to say or do something that was harmful to the one of them and not the other, we never allowed them to stick around.
We supported Rob and we supported Kristen. We respected each other and our opinions. We never would have allowed only one side of an argument to be heard because that would have validated the points of those people trying to turn the blog into a Rob fans vs. Kristen fans club.
I'm sorry guys, and I am trying to be very respectful of everyone here, but only those people supporting one side is upholding that tradition. I believe Torrimarie overreacted but there was truth to her main point.
IMO, I don't think Rob OR Kristen should say anything else to the public. Saying anything else to the public would probably spur the media even more. However, like Ginger of the Soul, I do not appreciate them using this 'incident' or K as something to laugh at. But I also understand that was the best way Rob could have handled it without really having to approaching the subject.
I'm really glad that Rob's first 'outing' went well. That said, I'm just really worried for Kristen, probably because we have not seen her yet, we don't know how she's actually doing at the moment. My heart just breaks for the both of them. I don't know what the future holds for them, but I just wish them the very best and that both will come out of this stronger.
Praying for the both of them.
Hugs.
Hey Yall:)
I thought Rob did a great job last night. I'm a fan of The Daily Show so maybe I'm biased, but I think what was probably a nerve wracking first interview after all this shit was made a little bit easier by Jon Stewart's humor.
I wanted to clarify what I meant yesterday in my comment. I was in no way telling someone to leave...that would never be my place! I just meant that if it gets to the point where we are calling out each other directly, then maybe it's best to take a lil break & discuss issues with people who are more in agreement. We've always been able to debate here in a civilized way. This morning's comments are a great example of that:)
It seems like forever ago that I used to post regularly here. I just remember everyone being so supportive when I had stuff going on and needed a place to vent a little bit. I also remember times when I thought I'd pissed everyone off because all of the sudden no one acknowledged me for a few days...lol. But that was usually just me being my insecure self. This place brought me lots of company when the hubby used to work nights or when the kids were all in school during the day. I don't have as much time to spend here lately as I've moved my mom in with me and now have a full time job as her personal assistant:)
If I've felt any disappointment about this whole situation, it hasn't so much been in either of the two at the middle of it. They're just two seemingly sweet young adults trying to work through a terrible situation. It's been in the way I've seen people judge what they should feel, say or do. It's been in myself for being a little too overly invested in something that neither one of them ever wanted anyone to be invested in at all. I'm trying to be better about that:)
I really do wish the best for both of them, whatever that may be. I think I heard someone say once that it'll all come out in the wash, or something like that...
I hope everyone has a great day today:)
Hi @Ginger, @monica,@DK, addison,@annie, @ lucki and all here : )
i think Rose needs to make a new post to explain again what she is being saying all this weeks about her position. She does Not want hate on kristen in her blog. She supports BOTH.
What is the point that we all here continue to wrote in our posts what kristen did? They want us to talk about the pics? Why? This will make them happy, seriously.
We all know what is out there, no one is making excuses to her. You know why? Because kristen herself admited publicly that she made a mistake. In the moment she did the statement she knew that she would suffer the consequences.
There are members who think because we don't pass all day commented on her mistake we are not supporting rob. That is Not true. I support Rob. I'm very happy for him, for the premiere and for all the success that he is getting.
He does not want all this hate on her.
Sydney you very eloquently stated in your comments what I was trying to say and I thank you for that.
I only have my opinion to go on, but I feel like you have been one of the people who has been down the middle fair with everyone.
So thank you so much for understand and so eloquently stating what we were all trying to say and failing at
@ginger,@monica,@Sidney - i agree with you all.I'm worried with kristen too. She is the only one of this drama that was not yet seen in public. She is not ready to come out. She needs time out of the spotlight. I believe that she will make her first appearance on the premiere in November. We will not gonna see her until that.
She is not in a good place right now. She will come out in public of course. In November, she will make like Rob did now for Cosmopolis, she will be professional and will be there to support the movie BD part 2.
She will face the media and the public. I'm not gonna be surprise that in November, when the premiere happens, that most of the suppose kristen fans will be appear again from the ocean. When she appears with a gorgeous balenciaga dress, perfect hair and make-up, looking gorgeous, they all go back to the sites and blogs and calling themselfes krisbians again. I don't have any doubt because this is part of the human nature always judge others severely when they are in a moment of weakness. But when the person have the courage to fight their demons and comes out more strong and with a new light the fake friends will come again if nothing happens. And this will happen with Kristen. When she comes out with a new light on her after she fights her demons they will come to "support her" again. Because now they can't . Because they can't deal with the truth: she is human.
come back?
I feel like we are all a little on edge and wary around here, well, at least I know that I am....feels a little bit like walking on eggshells sometimes. Isn't it possible for us to all be respectfully tolerant of the fact that we each have different opinions, without having to pick a side here? Aren't there enough potstirers and outright trolls that come here, without the rest of us going at each other, too? I am far from perfect and apologize if I've offended people here, that hasn't been my intent (except for responding to particularly vicious posts...then it is my intent.) I don't want to have to pick sides as a fan, either....I care about both of them, and I am going to continue to support each of them.
<3
Wow, so many comments to catch up on!
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion as long as it is stated respectfully.
What Kristen did was wrong, of course, but personally I don't understand why we have to mention it again and again in every single comment. I'm hurting for both of them and I want to support them by watching their movies, buying the DVD's etc. I don't think that Rob would want everyone to constantly bring up what Kristen did and everyone saying "poor Rob". (I'm not speaking about anyone on here, just a general observation).
It may seem as if I defend Kristen more but that is just because she gets so much undeserved hate. If someone comes here and insults Rob in the same way you can bet that I will be there to tell them to STFU!
Yes, what Kristen did was wrong but that does NOT excuse the death threats and absolute hate she is getting.
Which is also why I can understand why we haven't seen her yet. She is probably not doing very well at the moment and you just know that things will get ten times worse if she steps out.. just imagine the paps or some of Rob's "fans" seeing her!
As for Rob, I think that he handled himself very well and with a lot of class and grace.
Just my opinion.
Hope you are all doing great :)
Long time lurker, first time poster. I think people tend to get riled up when they feel that others are seeing this situation that Rob and Kristen are currently in in stark black or white terms, and whichever they happen to see it, is obviously the "right" way. My view on it happens to be a decided mix of grey. I firmly believe that the director took advantage of the situation, whether through true attraction to Kristen, or for what he felt she could do for his career. Doesn't really matter the motivation, just that he took advantage. Where my greyness, so to speak, comes in is that I believe that Kristen and Rob HAD to be having some sort of issues. People, whether famous or not, do not wake up one day and decide to step out on their partner. There had to be some sort of on-going tension or issue or something going on between Kristen and Rob. (This is not blaming Rob or being an apologist for Kristen, but accepting that, baring mental illness, there are reasons why people do the things they do.) Otherwise, no matter how charming or needy or whatever Mr.Director used to worm his way in, Kristen would not have acknowledged it. She would have been happy and fulfilled in her relationship. I'm not justifying her actions, but this is where I see her inexperience or youth coming in. Things are not "good" or "as good" between her and Rob as they had been. Mr. Director worms his way in, and suddenly, she's caught in a whirlwind. My hope is that she and Rob are able to figure out what was missing or lacking or whatever in their relationship that even allowed the door to be opened for a 3rd party to step in. I would feel the same way if Rob had been caught in a compromising position. My feelings would be the same. I think they both need to do some soul searching. First about what lead to the event (unhappiness, mistrust, boredom, etc), what they did or didn't do that could have prevented it (talked more, listened better, been more honest, etc.), and finally, whether they want to move forward with each other as a couple or not. I wish both of them nothing but the best and hope they both get it. Neither one of them "deserves" to be in this situation they now find themselves.
Dottie, I realize that I have overreacted and I said some very harmful and hateful things to you, I hope you will forgive me for doing what I did to you yesterday. I am truly sorry and I apologize from the bottom of my heart.
I haven't read very many of the comments, but I am sure that whatever I have been called has been valid. I have been crazy, nuts, quick to anger, bitchy, opinionated, and downright horrible. I am sure if I gave you my husband's cell phone number he could add a million other phrases into this mix.
I will not blame my condition for my reaction I will simply say that from the bottom of my heart Dottie I apologize for being so cruel and unfair to you.
I will only say in brief explanation that I was a little grumpy, and I had stupidly been reading comments all over the internet, since there is very little I can do these days but stay in one boring spot, and I was like a powder keg ready to explode.
I will respectfully and kindly say to Sydney, you're right I had no right in telling someone else to get off of their high horse while on my own. Thank you for pointing that out to me and making me come to the horrible realization that I had acted like a crazy out of control idiot.
I also thank you for what you said about there being a difference in those of us who still like Kristen but are upset with her and do not hide it, or want to, and those people who come on the blog and act, well like I did when spewing their hatred at Kristen.
I am going to lay off the computer now, put it away and start watching movies instead. I apologize again to everyone, I thank those who tried to find something good about me to say and I will now concentrate on trying to keep my hormones in check for the next couple of weeks until this child is born.
Torrimarie,
Thank you for your apology. Like I said yesterday, I think all of us are probably just on edge right now. If I made you or anyone else feel like you couldn't express how you were feeling, then I am sorry about that. That was never my intent. Honestly, it never even crossed my mind that someone might feel that way. No hard feelings.
Perdido, You are very sweet. I agree that Rob deserves happiness and I wish for Kristen to have happiness as well.
Does anyone else miss Rose? :(
@Lisa...I agree totally with your assessment. I too am in a gray area with what has happened. Various scenarios keep popping into my head as to how this possibly could have happened.
That is what we are all feeling. We have been analyzing and drawing speculations when we don't have all the facts. Add to that our own feelings, convictions and experiences - and you have a setup for conflicting views.
But please remember...aside from what they have allowed us to see - along with a few unguarded moments - we honestly don't know them, don't know what their relationship is like. They are strangers to us, despite their celebrity. So how can we honestly take sides when we are ignorant of the particulars? We can't...its not our turmoil, its not our right.
Yes, we have come to love them individually and together. We enjoyed watching how they interacted, how they expressed their love and respect for one another, but realistically speaking, many of us had an idealistic view of their relationship. And that is why we feel the way we do now.
They are/were a real couple with real problems, even before this scandal erupted. Perhaps facing the truth of the matter...which they are the only ones that know what's really going on...has forced them to face issues that they had brushed aside in the past. We don't know. The only thing we can do is wish them well, together or apart.
Personally I'd love to see them together, but only its meant to be.
Okay...getting off my soapbox now.
Perdido - I agree with every single word you say about Rob,he's a wonderful guy who deserves nothing but the best.I just happen to believe that's also true of Kristen who I'm certain is being far harder on herself than anyone else could ever be.
Having f*cked up spectacularly myself in the past,more than once, and been on the receiving end of more grace and mercy than I probably deserved, I finally accepted that it's what I did to make it right that defines me as a person and I'm pretty sure Kristen is doing everything imaginable and more to make this right xx
Hi Maria and Angelica
Angelica, You took the words right out of my mouth... or should that be fingers? ;)
I went to look at a house today and totally shouldn't have. Now I want it!
Ginger,
I did not mean another public apology was needed, but since I've had time to think on this, any remark would serve no purpose from either one of them. I guess I thought an interview would ease Kristen back into the public before she had to face BD promo. It's not my call though. I do think we as fans have to stop keeping a tally of who gets more hate, they both get it in different ways. They both have had people publicly wishing them harm. It does no good to keep score.
Perdido,
Even tho I lurked for a long time, I have no idea who you are, but your words have a calming effect so thank you for stopping by. There is wisdom in your simple message.
well, this is probably going to be my last post
so...i just took a step back from what was happening for a while and i believe i have gained a little objectivity. i agree with greg mottola who said that kristen was "insanely special" the problem is that in this country we say we want to celebrate uniqueness and a free spirit, but we don't we actually are just the opposite we can't wait for that person to fuck up so we can jump all over them.
here's what i pray will happen. i hope she will check out of acting completely, as well as promotion for about 5 years, while working as an AD for people she respects like sean penn or bill condon and then when she's 30 she should become a female woody allen: writing, directing and starring in her own movies
it's a long shot, but i still hope its what she does because she doesn't deserve what she's having to go through and we don't really deserve her
Dottie - LOL! I did the same, got sidetracked from the one I was supposed to be looking at by the £6m opposite and now all the ones I can actually afford just....disappoint me. LOL
i hope it is clear that when i say "we" i mean as a society and not anyone here
sorry, i'm done now
Hi Sydney and Robert
Perdido, A week seems like forever sometimes. Without Rose here the natives tend to get restless. Myself included! ;)
Robert, I understand your point but selfishly I would miss her if she did that. There's no other actress who can fill those shoes IMO. I think she'll be fine in time. People have overcome far far FAR worse.
Perdido - I've just lived and learned, angel :)
I got a bit of a respite from surgery, had a couple of anaesthetic blocks instead which has really helped, Thank you
Angelica, The house is so lovely! It's an old farmhouse on 9 acres. Lots of fruit trees, hilly pastures, woods... It's like a little piece of heaven! The price isnt bad, I just don't think I can convince the man that we need to move again since we only moved into our current home just over a yr ago! lol
Robert - I can certainly see and agree with your perspective but... Nooooo!! We miss her :)
Hi Dottie, Angelica and Perdido.
Having made my own fair share of mistakes, and being 42 yrs old, I can look back on my early twenties and see how I could of handled things better. After all, hindsight is 20/20. When I was 22, I was impressionable, affectionate to mostly everyone that I worked with and very trusting. Experiences as adults are eye openers and we come to the realization that not everyone has our best interests at heart, no matter how respectful we treat them.
I suspect Kristen is experiencing this in some shape or form, and its being magnified a hundred times over simply because she's a celebrity. Not denying het fault, but when everyone is watching your every move and the hateful are waiting for you to screw up, it just makes everything so much more difficult. For this we can be compassionate towards her pain.
Angelica, I'm glad about your back. Anything to avoid that surgery but still have some relief.
Maria, I think I wrote this before but there was no more foolish 20 something than me. When I think of all that my now husband forgave and put up with I still can't believe it. I don't know very many people who get through their late teens/early 20s w/o some kind of epic failure or mistake.
Perdido - Anyone who says they haven't fucked up spectacularly at some point in their life is lying, in my opinion....Angelica's right, it's what you do with it. <3
Dottie - the place sounds lovely....good luck convincing Mr. Dottie. ;)
Sydney - I think we all find ourselves needing a reminder from time to time :)
Perdido, I completely see the point you're making and while I know things might seem pretty rough right now for Kristen, it is going to get better for her. Things will calm down, people will get over their hurt and anger and this too shall pass.
Geez,
You guys aren't giving me much hope. I'm still in my 20's so now I'm waiting for my major screw up to begin. I do have a little bit too much credit card debt and I buy too much jewelry and I did break up with my boyfriend just because he wasn't very good looking and... Is there something worse to look forward to?
@Robert - why your last post :(
I like to see her too but I agree it would be nice for her to get behind the camera - didn't she say that was something she wanted to do anyway?
Lucky, yes stretch marks, crows feet, bad eye sight, and male pattern baldness.
@Lucky - we all trip but hey sometimes the battle wounds add flare and help us grow. Wait until you have children - man oh man.
if ppl didn't believe in others after big fuck ups I wouldn't be here
Lucky, continuing on...dentures, bifocals, hearing adds, blue hair and Erectile dysfunction
@Perdido
you really believe hollywood is going to turn their collective back on her?
like, the way they did angelina jolie or jude law?
you're kidding right?
as and for film school, i would call living on movie sets since the age of 9 it's own version of film school
besides woody allen started as a stand up comedian and he seems to haver gotten the hang of it
Addison and Ginger,
Thanks so much for the pep talk. I just can't wait!
Lucky LOL....ahhh the beauty of life.
((hugs)) Em
Bravo, Robert! (please dont go!)
EM, I love you girly! :)
Em - I think most of us can agree with you there
Luckystrike - You've probably not got to the really wild hormonal mood swings yet.I once fired an entire 30 piece dinner set at the poor man because he forgot milk.LOL
@ginger
she has said that but i think she was thinking the time would be much later
of course that was before she became a living symbol the scarlet letter and the salem witch trials all rolled into one
@Robert and Ginger...
I can see her following in the footsteps of Jodi Foster. I've always thought it was brilliant casting her as Jodi's daughter in Panic Room.
@Robert - I am giving you a huge hug right now :)
@luckystrike
here comes that male perspective again. my ex wife and i got into an argument that was so infuriating that it ended with me punching a hole in the kitchen wall
2 days later we out to dinner with 5 other couples and when i tell the story it turns out that every couple at the table had a story that ended with the husband punching a hole in a wall
so yeah the fun part of the ride is still down the road a bit
Angelica,
That actually sounds pretty funny. I hope you didn't injure him.
I'm worried about major fvck ups and you've all got me worried to have another birthday.
Robert - It was the door in our case :)
@Robert - Eventually people have to get tired of repeating this and move on - Hollywood has forgiven much much worse - She is a fighter so I hope when she gets it together she comes out with both fists swinging.
Had to change the icon ....again - I am done being sad.
@ginger
bring on the hugs
u guys r all so sweet thanks Kay n Angelica n Dottie stay safe n happy keep this place like u know how to :) bye
@Lucky - wait til you screw up with your kids - we all mean well but inflict some damage one way or the other on them while raising them.
@Robert you get even bigger hugs for staying around here - I need the jokes man
ginger
i'm in. see how easy i am. wait, does that make me a "trampire?"
@Robert :) see you gots jokes.
@ROBERT
ITA...i love them both because my two kids are their age and as mother my heart aches for them.
If only i have a magic wand i will make them disappear even just for one day so they can sit down and talk everything out.
Thank you wonderful ladies of Roseland
@ginger i've got nothing but jokes
[in his best "arnold" voice]
"hear me now and believe me later
and tings of this nature"
ps i make so many mistakes when i type that i think i am just going to start telling people that i am using olde english
HELLO GUYS.
@isis and Ginger-I agree with you both.I'm worried about Kristen mental and physical health.My question is she going to survive this without Rob's help?they seem to be very dependent with each other.I hope they both have enough strength to handle this madness.I will continue to pray for them.
I like these answers from DC and Rob today.
"People think they know what's going on but they don't" - David "And on top of that, lots of people just make it up anyway" - Rob"
Congrats to Rob! he is handling himself extremely well with the Cosmopolis promo. He is also, looking very handsome...and he seems OK to me...only thing missing NOW, I need to know if Kristen is OK, as well. I want them both to be happy. They BOTH deserve nothing but the best of everything.
Congrats to Rob, as well for his new role has Lawrence of Arabia in Queen of the Desert, Werner Herzog’s biopic of Gertrude Bell. Very happy and proud.
Take care everyone
@Ginger-I like you avi girl.
@Robert -please stay.
I agree - Rob handled himself very well today and on top of the other comments this one sticks out for me
Before we wrap up—forgive me for this, Robert, but I have to ask: What is it like to have millions of people worrying about you and hoping you’re OK?
RP: I guess if people think they’re worried about you, it’s sweet. It’s kind of odd.
DC: They’re reacting to what they think they know, but they don’t know. And they have a huge investment in so many lives that they aren’t connected with at all. Talk about a disconnect.
RP: But at the same time, the world is a pretty cruel place, so whatever inspires people to suddenly feel this kindness, hopefully they’ll look at themselves and they’ll look at their own lives and realize, [awestruck, Eureka-moment voice] “I have the ability to—to empathize with people!”
“My ability to empathize with a total stranger has helped me empathize with people I actually know!”
RP: “Hey, I’ve learned something!”
I’ve been troubled about this all day. I really wish I had followed my own counsel and kept out of things rather than add to the noise. Words hurt and I’m so very sorry if I’ve offended anyone or caused anyone any discomfort.
I’m out.... at least for now.....
So glad to see Rob, to see his smile/laugh. He is a little thinner and his eyes tell the real story. A little puffy, bags underneath and a sadness in them still remain. I think this week is going to be very good for him...keeping him busy.
@Freddie - you are nothing but sweet, respectful and honest - every single time you post. I have never seen an unkind word from you :)
FREDDIE <333
I agree Freddie, I certainly was not offended.
Freddie, You are the sweetest and nicest person, I am sure you didn't offend anyone.
Freddie, I'm not offended by you. I think sometimes when we read peoples comments we take it personally, when it really wasn't meant for us at all. I think we all need to take a chill pill (sad I know) and relax a bit. So don't go Freddie.
Dottie, I hope the house thing works out for you. My hubby and I are looking at a plot of land to build on and I want it so much and at the same time I'm trying not to get my hopes up but in my head I've designed the house and picked all the flooring, furniture etc lol
I have to agree with everyone that said about doing stupid things in their twenties. I'm quite hot headed (you don't say) and I once put a whole in a door banging it into the armchair in a bad temper. I have grown out of it mostly now thank goodness ;)
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